Time to get serious gentleman...

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KIMBERLYLV -- YOU ARE WRONG!!

KimberlyLV, first of all welcum to the board!
But you are dead wrong on one important issue...Hoffa is under Giant's Stadium, not behind it!
 
jrman66, after 5pm last night, this thread took on another head.
Shit kicked in and people went off on each other. Ma-ling, being
a key participant, as far as fueling this inferno.
She came accross very badly in her first post.
The UG wolves took offense, rightly so IMHO, and devoured her.
You and I are familar with what happens. All the characteristics
you described come into play. This isn't touch football here.
She wanted respect from us, but she ended up disrespecting
a lot of guys and gals here. You know her on another level
than us. We can only judge her, on how she portrays herself
in her posts. An armful of reviews from Beantown, don't mean
jack shit to the bronx bashers here.
I also like the girl with the edge. The go fuck yourself attitude
and a little spicy pussy. We all remember Samantha.
You and I both agree she could have done things differently
on her "whore tour." You live and learn by your own decisions.
She made some wrong ones and never admitted as much.
She kept passing the blame onto us. She kept raising her
bar, and lowering ours. Guys started to resent this lady.
The more she vented at us for something someone else did,
the more the guys vented at her, for all the times they were fucked over by someone else. It got fucking ugly.
I have no personal problem with how she acts between the
sheets or her fee structure. She is a korean hottie. Worth a
visit. But I could do without Newark and the 20 question
screening process. IMHO. I'll go see my korean cutie at the mp
and get my Ma-ling fix. In the future maybe she can rub me the
right way. She just rubbed me and others here the wrong way.
I hope this is over with. Thankfully nobody got really hurt here.
 
Originally posted by daro

Clubber

You need to take a deep breath and get some air.

[Clubber] Gulp, okay Daro, I'm taking a deep breath right now...good idea. I feel better now. Of course I've only contributed TWO posts to this discussion and you've given us NINE. Sure YOU don't need a breath too? On the other hand, our dear friend Ma-Ling has contributed what may well be a record 46 posts in about a day and a half on this one thread. She must not have had any appointments. Or perhaps she types DURING her appointments, I dunno. :)

[Daro]
STUPID AND OBNOXIOUS? CLASSLESS ALSO?
But I don't believe they apply to me, regarding this thread.
Yes, I am pro AMERICAN. I think we live in the greatest country
in the world. Outsiders are entitled to criticize our country. But if you don't like how the top americans run the country, the door swings both ways. You can leave at anytime. This korean lady, from Canada, migrated here to our area. She came here for the sole purpose of working the town hard. All she was interested in,
was meeting rich gentleman, who could keep her in the lifestyle
she likes. When some of her rich dick clients pulled a no show on her, she ripped us. . We weren't the ones who showed up in the designer suits...

[Clubber]
Daro, I truly believe you're a smart guy, but HOW DO YOU KNOW why she came to this country. AND HOW DO YOU KNOW that Ma-Ling's no shows were not members of UG? In fact, how do you know her attacker wasn't? And how would SHE know? She had a complaint about customers of providers and she posted it ON A WHOREBOARD. WTF is wrong with that? Sure, she didn't have to be so rude, but people are ruder on this board EVERY DAY. Read Ozzy's posts, for goodness sake!
As for the whole thing about UGers not having designer suits, again how do you know? Do you personally know all the members here? Most of them? Have you seen what they wear? Tell you one thing, with the number of reviews a bunch of the members here write, they have some SERIOUS bucks to be able to afford "hobbying" so much. Face it Daro, you can know that YOU didn't pull any shit on her, and maybe some of your friends, but I don't think you can speak for UG in general in this regard. Do you really think none of the members here have ever pulled a no-show?

[Daro]
I believe she came across as the stupid, obnoxious, ignorant, and classless person here. She is and will never be above us.

[Clubber]
Well, THAT's something we can agree on!

[Daro]
Clubber, I have no problem with you voicing your opinion.
I just think you backed the wrong horse in this race.
You didn't go with the strong thoroughbred, that whinnies,
and can withstand the test of time, and is a proven winner.
You backed that shorter animal, with the pointed ears, that
hee haws a lot. You lost the race and now you are coming
across as a sore loser. I think Ma-ling showed her true colors
in this thread, and they weren't RED, WHITE, and BLUE.
Of course this is only one proud american's opinion.
Peace out to all of you who supported me and our great country.
[Clubber]
Daro, what's with this whole patriotism thing here? I know it's getting close to 9/11 but c'mon! This started out as a post on a whoreboard about guys no-showing instead of calling to cancel. I'm not sure how truth, justice, and the American way are threatened here. And are you really saying that those who don't support you on a whoreboard are not patriotic? Nah, I don't think that even you would say that.

As for the "race", I haven't "backed" any "horse". My first post started by saying, "I've never seen Ma-Ling and probably never will, but still it seems to me that a bunch of you guys are blowing her rather abrupt and kinda rude posts way out of proportion." and finished with "Does she seem kinda rude and abrupt in this thread? Yeah, without a doubt....but no more so than a lot of people in a lot of threads here." Are those the words of a backer?
Personally, I thought that Ma-Ling's first post was no big deal, although she certainly went off the deep end later on in the thread, where she has made a number of "final" posts only to come back for more again and again. I have no sympathy for Ma-Ling, I don't know her and I don't WANT to know her. But Daro, you have been wallowing around in the muck right with her. You criticize someone for their lack of respect, yet your first reaction to her complaint was basically "get the fuck out of the country." If you don't understand how that's obnoxious and classless, I don't think there's any point in us talking more about it.
 
Originally posted by Ma-ling
"You got what you deserved. I don't support guys tying you up
and strangling you, but what goes around, comes around. "




Nobody deserves that. Not even you.
You're right. I hope you understood what I meant.
I didn't mean you deserved to run into a psycho. Nobody does.
I meant, if you're going, to go around and step on all those eggs,
sooner or later, you may come face to face with a rotten egg,
and he could be dangerous. It happened to you and it scared
the shit out of you. You went off on some good eggs here, to
get back at that one bad egg you encountered. Relax, get
some rest, take your pills, and maybe someone will give you a
good tongue licking. Maybe even really fuck the shit out of you,
in a good way. Since your schedule and mine are not a good fit,
it will have to be another prick. Hopefully a nice gentlemanly
prick like myself. Enjoy your stay here.
 

jrman66

Ma-Ling Bok Ma Wong Gee
Daro

Your past posts here are way, way over the top. NO ONE, EVER, EVER deserves to be hurt NO MATTER WHAT.

WHERE THE FUCK DID THAT COME FROM?
 
CAN WE ALL JUST GROW THE FUCK UP ALREADY

She did apologize the problem these days is that people DON'T READ the words anymore, they see what they want to see. Condescending tones and accusatory sarcasm diminish the value of contributions. I crave information and educate myself as much as I can but there has to be a better resource for information and less nastiness
 
JR Man is right

Daro SAID "You got what you deserved. I don't support guys tying you up and strangling you, but what goes around, comes around. " But that's OK, and I guess it's neither obnoxious nor classless, because he "didn't mean it."
Of course, I note that he didn't apologize for it either.....

Talk about someone having their head up their ass...
 
Re: Daro

Originally posted by jrman66
Your past posts here are way, way over the top. NO ONE, EVER, EVER deserves to be hurt NO MATTER WHAT.

WHERE THE FUCK DID THAT COME FROM?

If my words came across that way, I apologize.
I didn't advocate what that guy did to her was deserving.
That was totally uncalled for. She got what she deserved from us.
I just meant if you shit on a lot of your customers and treat
them badly, they may do the same to you. They may shit on you
on a whoreboard or make up false bad reviews. Maybe even
cancel an appointment without notification. No violent shit.
We went through that last week.
When I said thankfully nobody got hurt here, I meant with ugly
words. The hurt I spoke of was with lies, slander, etc.
The kind of shit that jewel and shy went through was awful.
This was mild. She was the one that got down right nasty with
the guys and the girls. Sorry if I confused you. I hope this clears
things up.
 
They may shit on you on a whoreboard or make up false bad reviews.



See this is why I am not taking any customers. This week I have seen only one regular and no new clients. So there for any faulse review could look very stupid on the reviewer. No new customers this month. (To the men before they even try)

And JRMAN66, thanks for my one organsm this week. xox
 
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Hotpuppy

Mr.Butterworth
Originally posted by Ma-ling
Hey Mod, have we broke the record for number of posts on one thread for Utopia Guide? Then perhaps it's time to let things die.
Not even close to a record.
BTW, you can request that the APM close this thread since you began it.
take care
HP
 
Clubber, let's see if I can answer your qwestions.

Why she came to this country? Her website said she lived in Montreal. She does a provider tour. She did Boston last week.
She is doing Newark now. I know why she came to our area.
She came for the money. She stated she came to work the town.
She did well the last time and came back for more.
Granted Montreal and Newark are close to one another.
But they are in different countries. She didn't come to this country,
she came to Newark.
Only Ma-ling knows who her no shows are. She knows who her attacker was. She screened them all, and had message contact
with them. Phone #, address, place of business, etc.
She originally complained about guys standing them up.
Then she changed it to guys standing up the other two girls.
Then she threw in the attacker situation.
She did no wrong in posting it here. She was just too vague
in her original post. She left out info. She accused us of
being the no shows. She didn't ask for our help. She didn't
ask Slinky if he could check out an em address of some guy who went off on her. She just went off on us. The rudeness didn't
bother me. I tried to make sense out of what she was saying,
after I corrected all the errors. I know about Ozzy. His posts
are in areas, that don't concern me. I don't read them.
I don't know about who makes up UG. Rich, poor, suits, sneakers, etc. Yes, there are some big time hobby guys here. Mucho bucks.
We are just generalizing. She has more specific info than we do
at her disposal. She may have been able to use it better, but then
again, it is an illegal activity, and who can you turn to. She turned to us, but her approach was questionable.
As far as get the fuck out of the country. You are a hooker.
You come to a different town or country. You came to suck as
much money out of the community as possible. Because you hit
a bump in the road, you go off negatively about the people and
the town. If you don't like it here, you have an option. You can
leave and go somewhere else to ply your trade. I just reminded
her of that option. I didn't thnk it was classless or obnoxious.
But that's my opinion and it differs from yours. No big deal.
As far as wondering who makes up UG. Who the fuck knows.
I would hope there are no rapists, killers, muggers, serial fucks,
violent revenge seeking guys. But you don't know. I assume
most are like me. But you know what happens when you assume.
Like I said she knows who the no shows are. She stereotyped
them as white collar guys. She said that we were not the guys she wanted as clients. I assumed, which is wrong, that us UG
guys were innocent. But like you said, there are mo fo lurkers
and other crazy guys that may exist here. But they exist
everywhere in life, and I don't know who they are, and I have
no control over what they may or may not do. I hope some of
this made sense.
 
Daro, to tell you the truth, aside from the sniping we've been doing at each other, I think there's only one spot where we really disagree and that's how we took the original post.

You took it as an attack on "us."
I took it as an attack on anyone that no showed on an appointment. I guess I took it that way because at the end she thanked the guys that DID keep their appointments. But to be honest, I can see how you took it the way you did too.

What the heck, maybe I'm just feeling the love at post #100... :)
 

jrman66

Ma-Ling Bok Ma Wong Gee
Why?

Hey I just upgraded my pc from a pIII 866 to a p4 1.8. Can you tell I am typing faster? Just kidding. Also, fucking Oracle 8i wouldn't install and our PC/network guy had to go to google to get info on how to get it to work.

Anyway, Daro, why do you care so much about this thread? It's friday, go have a drink. Visit your local AMP, shoot a couple of loads and be done with this.

Sound OK?
 
Originally posted by Ma-ling


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See this is why I am not taking any customers. This week I have seen only one regular and no new clients. So there for any faulse review could look very stupid on the reviewer. No new customers this month. (To the men before they even try)
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Ma-ling, you say you only saw one regular. All the guys you
saw last time didn't want to see you this time? Or couldn't.
I assume jrman66 is the only guy you saw. You saw no new clients.
The guy with the tie and the belt was a regular of yours,
and he still went off on you. So even with good screening and
a repeat customer, you still run into psychos.
Be careful out there. It is a crazy place and not all the men are
gentlemen. Since it's all illegal, there are no rules to play the
game fair by. I meant you no harm. I'm sorry if some of my words
were confusing. Some guys took offense to what I said, or
thought I said. Like I said. Enjoy your stay and be careful.
 
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Clubber, congrats on making silver also.
Yes it all went back to the first post. She came in guns blazing
and I didn't know what to think. It's possible she knew more
than she let on originally. It was confusing to me.
I can see it the other way also.
Glad we both haven't lost that loving feeling.LOL.
 
Originally posted by daro
Originally posted by Ma-ling


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ENOUGH WITH THIS DARO!

Ma-ling, you say you only saw one regular. All the guys you
saw last time didn't want to see you this time? Or couldn't.
I assume jrman66 is the only guy you saw. You saw no new clients.


I WAS ON MY PERIOD! HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO TELL YOU!


The guy with the tie and the belt was a regular of yours,
and he still went off on you.


WHERE DID YOU GET THIS INFO. HE WAS NOT A REGULAR. READ BEFORE YOU WRITE!

So even with good screening and
a repeat customer, you still run into psychos.


I ALSO STATED THAT WHEN I FIRST CAME HERE I DID NOT SREEN MY CLIENTS WELL.


Be careful out there. It is a crazy place and not all the men are
gentlemen. Since it's all illegal, there are no rules to play the
game fair by.


YOUR WRONG ABOUT THAT! THIS IS THE SECOND TIME I WAS ATTACKED IN THE ACT OF ILLEGAL BUSINESS. AND THE FIRST ONE GOT 3 YEARS! SO THERE ARE RULES. WHAT WE DO IS A MISTERMEINOR, AND VIOLENTS IS A FELONY. BIG DIFFERENCE, WE ARE THE SMALL COOKIES.

ANY LADIES ARE READING THIS, DON'T BELIEVE THAT! YOU ALWAYS HAVE A RIGHT TO REPORT ANYONE WHO HAS HARMED YOU IN ANYWAY!

I meant you no harm. I'm sorry if some of my words
were confusing. Some guys took offense to what I said, or
thought I said. Like I said. Enjoy your stay and be careful.

Thank you. I see you are coming to me in a softer tone, so I apologise for my brash conduct. I put my relies in caps to differenciate our conversation. Your wishing me a nice trip, so great this must mean it is over now. Sorry for being so rude to you, I was not behaving as the lady that I am. Please refrain from rewording any more of my posts. I think this issue between us is now finished.

Have a wonderful day.

(Candy....Im going to try that special bath of yours.)
 
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on my way to foxwoods for the sopranos launch party and it saddens me to see this thread still going on... I sure hope this doesnt get so blown out of proportion! Caps again too! This isn't good for the hood ;)

jeeze... this thread is nuts!
 
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