Originally posted by slinkybender
But to add a different angle on things:
A lot of ladies aren't "set up" to be independants, and part of that is having the ability to properly screen clients, part of which is to know how to tell who will show or not.
DO YOU HAVE TO HAVE ESP IN ORDER TO BE AN INDEPENDANT?
You friend worked at an agency in Boston ( who took care of this end of the business ), and didn't have any no-shows. But what did she take home from each session ? $100 ?
SHE IS NOT PART OF THE LADIES WHO HAVE BEEN COMING FROM MONTREAL AND PROVIDING SHITTY SERVICES. SHE HAS BEEN GIVING TOTAL GFE SERVICE AND THE AGENCY SHE WAS WORKING WITH AND STILL DOES WHEN SHE IS IN CERTAIN CITIES, IS A HIGH CLASS AGENCY WHO PAYS TOP DOLLAR. THESE GIRLS MAKE MORE THAN THE PRESIDENT. I AM NOT GETTING UPSET WITH YOU BECAUSE I KNOW A FEW LADIES HAVE BEEN GIVING GUYS BAD SERVICE FROM MONTREAL. BUT JUST AS I SAY NOT ALL NEW-JERSEY GUYS ARE BAD, NOT ALL MONTREAL GIRLS EITHOR. YOU GOT THE WRONG GROUP OF GIRLS.
Now, she comes to this area, sets herself up in what is a downright scary area for most of the guys who could actually afford the rate ( $300 an hour ? ), and is surprised that it's not easy, and she's having no shows, etc.
THIS HOTEL IS GREAT WITH SECURITY SURROUNDING, BEAUTIFULLY DECORATED, EASY PARKING AND IT SEEMS TO MAY GUYS WHO HAVE COME, THAT IT WAS A GOOD AND CONVINENT LOCATION. I HAVE BEEN DOING HER BOOKINGS AND SHE HAS BEEN BOOKED SOLID ALL WEEK. I HAVE HAD TO DENY OVER 20 APPOINTMENTS. ALL PROFFESSIONAL MEN. NOW WHAT IS YOUR POINT? I DON'T THINK THE DOCTOR I CALLED AT HIS OFFICE TO SET UP THE APPOINTMENT WAS HAVING SUDDEN FINANCIAL TROUBLE BEFORE THE APPOINTMENT, NOR THE GUY WHO IS THE VICE PRESIDENT OF A TECH COMPANY IN THE AREA.... (BUT BOTH DID NOT SHOW.......DO YOU REALLY THINK IT IS THE TYPE OF GUYS OR THEY SUDDENLY WENT BROKE?) I KNOW THE STOCK MARKET HAS NOT BEEN GREAT BUT COME ON....
I just think it's unrealisitic, and it's what gets a lot of "touring ladies" in trouble when they come to NYC ( no, I don't mean "real trouble", I just mean they are often disappointed with their trips here ).
tHERE IS NO DISAPPOINTMENT FINANCUALLY FROM THIS TRIP. IT IS DISAPPOINTING THAT WE HAVE TO BOOK MORE APPOINTMENTS THAN WE NORMALLY WOULD, KNOWING GUYS WILL NOT SHOW. THAT IS A HEADACHE AND THAT IS WHAT I WAS MAKING CLEAR. THE MONEY IS GREAT HERE AND WE WILL ALL RETURN. BUT DO WE ALWAYS HAVE TO HAVE ALL THESE NO SHOW'S TOO. IS THIS JUST A PART OF NJ?
What happens is that they try to "cash in" by charging top NYC rates, but skimping on expenses,
ALL OF US STAY AT 4* HOTELS AND UP. IF YOU WALK INTO MY HOTEL, THEY WILL CHARGE YOU $120-$180 DOLLARS A NIGHT. WHEN I STAY IN NY AND BOSTON, THE HOTELS I CHOOSE ARE OFTEN PRICED AT $300-$400 A NIGHT. WHO IS SKIMMING ON EXPENSES?
and in a time when the economy is basically in the toilet in NYC, they are surprised that it doesn't work out like they planned.
SO BECAUSE THE ECONOMY IS BAD, THIS GIVES A GUY A THE RIGHT TO STAND US UP. IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD IT, DON'T BOOK IT. MANY OTHERS CAN!
Now, I think anyone can charge anything they want. No guy has the right to tell any lady that they can't. But you have to understand the market, and know that in the same way that the guys shouldn't expect "something for nothing", that it cuts both ways.
I KNOW YOU MUST BE TALKING ABOUT THE OTHER LADIES FROM MONTREAL. "SOMETHING FOR NOTHING" I DON'T THINK COMPLETE GFE IS NOTHING. SOMEONE NEEDS TO DO THERE HOMEWORK AND FIGURE OUT WHO YOUR WRITING TOO. THIS IS NOT THE SAME SET OF GIRLS.
You can't just waltz into a new city, ( especially not this one ) and expect the world to fall at your feet.
YOU MEAN, I SHOULD NOT EXPECT COMMON DECENCY LIKE "HEY MA-LING, SOMETHING HAS COME UP AND I WON'T BE ABLE TO MAKE IT" OR "HEY, SORRY I MISSED OUR APPOINTMENT, I HAD AN SITUATION...." SORRY THAT IS NOT EXPECTING THE WORLD AT MY FEET.
And if the lack of ability to get guys to show up for appointments, especially when it seems that it's a persistant problem, doesn't signal to you that there's some real problems with your screening methods,
WHY IS IT THAT THIS PROBLEM IS 90% WORSE HERE THAN BOSTON, NEW-YORK, CALIFORNIA.... IS IT REALLY MY SCREENING METHODS? I DON'T HAVE THIS MUCH PROBLEM ANYWHERE ELSE. SURE DC WAS BAD, BUT THEY CANCELLED NOT JUST NOT SHOWED UP. BOSTON, MAYBE A FEW TIMES BUT NOTHING LIKE THIS, AND NY, NEVER. ARE YOU SURE IT IS MY SCREENING METHOD?
I don't think yelling at all guys from the area, especailly one's who never stood you up or even tried to book with you, is going to solve that problem.
IF IT DOESN'T APPLY, DON'T REPLY. YOU KNOW THAT THIS WAS MEANT FOR THE GUYS WHO ARE RESPECTFUL. SO WHY ARE YOU TAKING IT TO HEART?
ANYTHING ELSE?