Time to get serious gentleman...
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i don't recall anyone complaining about your service, so please stop telling us how great you are. Whether you are great, a totla GFE, the best cock sucker in the world is not, nad has not been an issue, so fail to see any reason why in the world you keep insisting that all your customers are satisfied.
I would note however, as has been said several times in this thread, that your attitude seems to be somewhat offensive.
If we are to believe the things you have written, it does not seem worthwhile for you to have posted your complaints to us UG'ers, and passed judgment on us. If in fact, "I am the one doing all the screening and I have a name and phone number for each guy that booked. I have talked to each personally myself. I AM EXTREMELY ORGANIZED" why did you feel the need to tell all of us how things should be done, and go back look again at your first post, impose the new rules upon us. Why did you not simply call the people, whom you very carefully screened, took down accurate contact info on, and personally spoke with, and explained your new rules to?
you still have not posted your policy on making your clients wait if that should ever happen, I know you say it doesn't won't but you continually admit that you overbook, so it is a possibility and an EXTREMELY ORGANIZED individual like yourself must have a policy.
You state "Can anyone out there say they had a problem or a bad time?" the obvious answer is yes, tracker had a problem, you obviously took care of it too his satisfaction, sincerely that is great, but the answer to your question is yes, there has been a problem.
Further, what does "But if I cancell then I pay for it!" mean. seriously, i have no idea. Tracker has given an indication that in fact you did no-show an appointment, so it is not an issue that it never happens I am curious, as you have laid down these new laws, what is your exact policy on you not showing, or making a client wait?
I would note however, as has been said several times in this thread, that your attitude seems to be somewhat offensive.
If we are to believe the things you have written, it does not seem worthwhile for you to have posted your complaints to us UG'ers, and passed judgment on us. If in fact, "I am the one doing all the screening and I have a name and phone number for each guy that booked. I have talked to each personally myself. I AM EXTREMELY ORGANIZED" why did you feel the need to tell all of us how things should be done, and go back look again at your first post, impose the new rules upon us. Why did you not simply call the people, whom you very carefully screened, took down accurate contact info on, and personally spoke with, and explained your new rules to?
you still have not posted your policy on making your clients wait if that should ever happen, I know you say it doesn't won't but you continually admit that you overbook, so it is a possibility and an EXTREMELY ORGANIZED individual like yourself must have a policy.
You state "Can anyone out there say they had a problem or a bad time?" the obvious answer is yes, tracker had a problem, you obviously took care of it too his satisfaction, sincerely that is great, but the answer to your question is yes, there has been a problem.
Further, what does "But if I cancell then I pay for it!" mean. seriously, i have no idea. Tracker has given an indication that in fact you did no-show an appointment, so it is not an issue that it never happens I am curious, as you have laid down these new laws, what is your exact policy on you not showing, or making a client wait?
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I am not the one claiming satisfaction...LOL. Read where this is coming from, those are my CLIENTS writing this. [/B][/QUOTE]
I take it back, you really only indirectly said it by saying that you basically have all the businees you need... my bad, the last thing I want to do is put my words in your mouth...
I take it back, you really only indirectly said it by saying that you basically have all the businees you need... my bad, the last thing I want to do is put my words in your mouth...
Must I spell everything out again?
If I do not show on a client " I give him a $100 off his next visit" I am organized and over booking means .... okay let me write this again, "organized over booking" means taking a few more clients than I would have wanted too, not OVER LAPPING schedules.
Now, I should also tell you that yes I had 1 "NO SHOW" for my self this week, and I cancelled 1 appointment because I was on my rag. (I obviously have to make everything VERY clear here...sorry for the gentlemen who would have preferred not to know that but I preferr to write than have to explain AGAIN) This gentleman who might or might not have shown up has been given the benifit of the doubt since it was cancelled less than 24 hours from our appointment and knows he has $100 off our next visit. So this is my policy.
Now when I saw "Tracker", this was a week that I came here with about 15 hours booked and only had 3 guys show. So I said "F-New-Jersey" and took my ass to Balley's Casino. I was not about to wait in the room for guys to stand me up when I could enjoy NJ for all it had to offer. This same week, I had a guy try to strangle me, and another who did show and bull shitted me around for 5 hours. (Do I have to explain?) So I took a vacation with my trip. I am so happy that I met "Tracker" even after such an ordeal. It is him and one other client, who made me feel so nice, that I actually returned for THEM alone. (All on TBD threads) Then I met a few more along the way, and so on and so on. Now I am happy to say that I have a wonderful cliental here and love coming here.
This thread was about me, (my past experiences here) but mostly about my friend who is visiting with me. When she got the same responce (as well as many other girls that I know visit here) that is when I said it is time that we need to stick togethor.
Guys who stand girls up, will do it to many girls, not individual girls. This is a personality disorder, and they tend to repeat it with other girls. (THAT IS A FACT... if you need me to explain I will) I give many references to girls about clients when they write, this is working togethor to make things easier and better for eachother. Why shouldn't girls do this for the guys who do not show?
Now I will admit, I was being a bit rude when I said "back to back" but hey, this is very frustrating. I can vent a bit....no? But now that I popped my "Vicodin E-S" I am feeling quite better. I am "human".
What get's me, I wrote this for the guys who are standing girls up OBVIOUSLY, but it seems that guys who claim to be gentleman and do not do those things are taking it to heart. "If it does not apply to you, why are you reacting the way you are?"
My question to you guys now.....
xox Ma-ling
(Ashley posts are stated from her. We have one computer and preferr not to argue over "cookies")
If I do not show on a client " I give him a $100 off his next visit" I am organized and over booking means .... okay let me write this again, "organized over booking" means taking a few more clients than I would have wanted too, not OVER LAPPING schedules.
Now, I should also tell you that yes I had 1 "NO SHOW" for my self this week, and I cancelled 1 appointment because I was on my rag. (I obviously have to make everything VERY clear here...sorry for the gentlemen who would have preferred not to know that but I preferr to write than have to explain AGAIN) This gentleman who might or might not have shown up has been given the benifit of the doubt since it was cancelled less than 24 hours from our appointment and knows he has $100 off our next visit. So this is my policy.
Now when I saw "Tracker", this was a week that I came here with about 15 hours booked and only had 3 guys show. So I said "F-New-Jersey" and took my ass to Balley's Casino. I was not about to wait in the room for guys to stand me up when I could enjoy NJ for all it had to offer. This same week, I had a guy try to strangle me, and another who did show and bull shitted me around for 5 hours. (Do I have to explain?) So I took a vacation with my trip. I am so happy that I met "Tracker" even after such an ordeal. It is him and one other client, who made me feel so nice, that I actually returned for THEM alone. (All on TBD threads) Then I met a few more along the way, and so on and so on. Now I am happy to say that I have a wonderful cliental here and love coming here.
This thread was about me, (my past experiences here) but mostly about my friend who is visiting with me. When she got the same responce (as well as many other girls that I know visit here) that is when I said it is time that we need to stick togethor.
Guys who stand girls up, will do it to many girls, not individual girls. This is a personality disorder, and they tend to repeat it with other girls. (THAT IS A FACT... if you need me to explain I will) I give many references to girls about clients when they write, this is working togethor to make things easier and better for eachother. Why shouldn't girls do this for the guys who do not show?
Now I will admit, I was being a bit rude when I said "back to back" but hey, this is very frustrating. I can vent a bit....no? But now that I popped my "Vicodin E-S" I am feeling quite better. I am "human".
What get's me, I wrote this for the guys who are standing girls up OBVIOUSLY, but it seems that guys who claim to be gentleman and do not do those things are taking it to heart. "If it does not apply to you, why are you reacting the way you are?"
My question to you guys now.....
xox Ma-ling
(Ashley posts are stated from her. We have one computer and preferr not to argue over "cookies")
I take it back, you really only indirectly said it by saying that you basically have all the businees you need... my bad, the last thing I want to do is put my words in your mouth... [/B][/QUOTE]
Thank you. That was one of the nicest gestures I have read so far. I am not being sarcastic, I mean that. Thanks.
Thank you. That was one of the nicest gestures I have read so far. I am not being sarcastic, I mean that. Thanks.
BTW just so you understand I do not condone no-showing, I think it is almsot as bad as your attitude. [/B][/QUOTE]
I treat people the way they treat me. Maybe everyone should go back and read what you have been writing to me. I am not the docile little girl who is going to allow anyone to trash me. Call it a personality default or call me a bitch, but I call it respecting myself.
Yeh, I am a bit sarcastic but so are you. Do you think you have a bad attitude?
(no more hugs and kisses) Ma-ling
I treat people the way they treat me. Maybe everyone should go back and read what you have been writing to me. I am not the docile little girl who is going to allow anyone to trash me. Call it a personality default or call me a bitch, but I call it respecting myself.
Yeh, I am a bit sarcastic but so are you. Do you think you have a bad attitude?
(no more hugs and kisses) Ma-ling
I'm not looking to bash you, Ma-Ling, but you've got a few inconsistancies going on.
( for example:
a) " I actually only see 1-2 guys a day",
b) "I only see 2 new guys per visit.",
c) "I came here with about 15 hours booked and only had 3 guys show", BUT
d) It's guys from Utopiaguide not "being serious" which is the problem.
If you follow your own logic, it seems it's your repeats - or your facts - which are as big a problem. Hey you said it yourself - "The rest are REPEATS. (I usually book 4 so I can get 2 LOL! )".
( for example:
a) " I actually only see 1-2 guys a day",
b) "I only see 2 new guys per visit.",
c) "I came here with about 15 hours booked and only had 3 guys show", BUT
d) It's guys from Utopiaguide not "being serious" which is the problem.
If you follow your own logic, it seems it's your repeats - or your facts - which are as big a problem. Hey you said it yourself - "The rest are REPEATS. (I usually book 4 so I can get 2 LOL! )".
Re: ma-ling
I have seen ma-ling several times when she comes to the NJ area...the first time I made an appointment...she did not show
Now that I think about it....you stood me up too! This week..LOL. I will punish you later! (4x!!!) But at least you had a legit excuse) I don't think you could have made the airlines get on schedule for our get togethor. But at least you wrote apologising and with an explanation. See it does not take much to make a girl happy.
xox Ma-ling
I have seen ma-ling several times when she comes to the NJ area...the first time I made an appointment...she did not show
Now that I think about it....you stood me up too! This week..LOL. I will punish you later! (4x!!!) But at least you had a legit excuse) I don't think you could have made the airlines get on schedule for our get togethor. But at least you wrote apologising and with an explanation. See it does not take much to make a girl happy.
xox Ma-ling
But to add a different angle on things:
A lot of ladies aren't "set up" to be independants, and part of that is having the ability to properly screen clients, part of which is to know how to tell who will show or not. You friend worked at an agency in Boston ( who took care of this end of the business ), and didn't have any no-shows. But what did she take home from each session ? $100 ? Now, she comes to this area, sets herself up in what is a downright scary area for most of the guys who could actually afford the rate ( $300 an hour ? ), and is surprised that it's not easy, and she's having no shows, etc.
I just think it's unrealisitic, and it's what gets a lot of "touring ladies" in trouble when they come to NYC ( no, I don't mean "real trouble", I just mean they are often disappointed with their trips here ). What happens is that they try to "cash in" by charging top NYC rates, but skimping on expenses, and in a time when the economy is basically in the toilet in NYC, they are surprised that it doesn't work out like they planned. Now, I think anyone can charge anything they want. No guy has the right to tell any lady that they can't. But you have to understand the market, and know that in the same way that the guys shouldn't expect "something for nothing", that it cuts both ways. You can't just waltz into a new city, ( especially not this one ) and expect the world to fall at your feet. And if the lack of ability to get guys to show up for appointments, especially when it seems that it's a persistant problem, doesn't signal to you that there's some real problems with your screening methods, I don't think yelling at all guys from the area, especailly one's who never stood you up or even tried to book with you, is going to solve that problem.
A lot of ladies aren't "set up" to be independants, and part of that is having the ability to properly screen clients, part of which is to know how to tell who will show or not. You friend worked at an agency in Boston ( who took care of this end of the business ), and didn't have any no-shows. But what did she take home from each session ? $100 ? Now, she comes to this area, sets herself up in what is a downright scary area for most of the guys who could actually afford the rate ( $300 an hour ? ), and is surprised that it's not easy, and she's having no shows, etc.
I just think it's unrealisitic, and it's what gets a lot of "touring ladies" in trouble when they come to NYC ( no, I don't mean "real trouble", I just mean they are often disappointed with their trips here ). What happens is that they try to "cash in" by charging top NYC rates, but skimping on expenses, and in a time when the economy is basically in the toilet in NYC, they are surprised that it doesn't work out like they planned. Now, I think anyone can charge anything they want. No guy has the right to tell any lady that they can't. But you have to understand the market, and know that in the same way that the guys shouldn't expect "something for nothing", that it cuts both ways. You can't just waltz into a new city, ( especially not this one ) and expect the world to fall at your feet. And if the lack of ability to get guys to show up for appointments, especially when it seems that it's a persistant problem, doesn't signal to you that there's some real problems with your screening methods, I don't think yelling at all guys from the area, especailly one's who never stood you up or even tried to book with you, is going to solve that problem.
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I've never seen Ma-Ling and probably never will, but still it seems to me that a bunch of you guys are blowing her rather abrupt and kinda rude posts way out of proportion.
She said in her original post that "When I have to cancell with a gentleman and it is not over 24 hours from the appointment scheduled, I give them a $100 discount on our next visit." But Footy asked about the same thing two more times accusing her of not responding to the question.
Daro posts shit like "Why don't you and
your two wingers, skate your asses back to the Montreal
Forum/Molson Centre. Sorry to be so crude, but just what we
need as we approach 9/11, more fucking foreigners, telling us
how to run our country. IMHO." This is obviously stupid and obnoxious. What does 9/11 have to do with this thread? Is he implying that America is perfect and no one from outside should be allowed to criticize us? Personally, I find this kind of posting as rude as Ma-Ling's original post. And after this classless post, Daro bitches "How do you expect to get treated with respect from us, when you come to our town, and you disrespect us with your classless suck the town dry attitude. (no pun intended)" Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Any of you guys who've been reading posts on UG for more than a week have seen Ozzy go off on people WAY more objectionably than Ma-Ling.
Does she seem kinda rude and abrupt in this thread? Yeah, without a doubt....but no more so than a lot of people in a lot of threads here.
Guys, take a breath!
She said in her original post that "When I have to cancell with a gentleman and it is not over 24 hours from the appointment scheduled, I give them a $100 discount on our next visit." But Footy asked about the same thing two more times accusing her of not responding to the question.
Daro posts shit like "Why don't you and
your two wingers, skate your asses back to the Montreal
Forum/Molson Centre. Sorry to be so crude, but just what we
need as we approach 9/11, more fucking foreigners, telling us
how to run our country. IMHO." This is obviously stupid and obnoxious. What does 9/11 have to do with this thread? Is he implying that America is perfect and no one from outside should be allowed to criticize us? Personally, I find this kind of posting as rude as Ma-Ling's original post. And after this classless post, Daro bitches "How do you expect to get treated with respect from us, when you come to our town, and you disrespect us with your classless suck the town dry attitude. (no pun intended)" Talk about the pot calling the kettle black!
Any of you guys who've been reading posts on UG for more than a week have seen Ozzy go off on people WAY more objectionably than Ma-Ling.
Does she seem kinda rude and abrupt in this thread? Yeah, without a doubt....but no more so than a lot of people in a lot of threads here.
Guys, take a breath!
Sorry to have to explain this.
c) "I came here with about 15 hours booked and only had 3 guys show",
THIS WAS MY FIRST TRIP HERE. I WAS HERE FOR 6 DAYS.
a) " I actually only see 1-2 guys a day",
THAT IS CORRECT!
b) "I only see 2 new guys per visit.",
DID YOU NOTICE WHEN I SAID "NEW" GUYS. THAT MEANS GUYS I HAVE NOT EVER SEEN BEFORE. THIS MEANS I SEE MY REGULARS AND USUALLY 2 NEW GUYS FOR THE WEEK THAT I AM HERE. I BOOK 4 NEW GUYS FOR THE WEEK BUT ONLY 2 USUALLY SHOW UP. THIS IN TURN MAKES ME SEEING ONLY 1-2 CLIENTS A DAY SINCE SOMETIMES ONE DAOES NOT SHOW.
IS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I CAN REWRITE FOR YOU? WHAT DID NOT MAKE SENCE TO YOU?
IF YOU ARE GOING TO TRY AND PICK ME APART AND TREAT ME AS IF I AM CONTRADICTING MYSELF THEN SORRY YOU DO DESERVE THIS. HERE IT IS AGAIN IN CLEAR DETAILS JUST LIKE THE FIRST TIME. DON'T TRY TO PARTONIZE ME. YOU WANNA MAKE ME LOOK STUPID, LET'S JUST TALK ABOUT MY SPELLING. THERE I ALWAYS LOOK STUPID.
ONE GUY ONCE WROTE "I THINK SHE WRITES HER OWN REVIEWS" I ASKED HIM...."WHERE THEY MISS SPELLED?" ( By the way, I did NOT write my own reviews...LOL. All the gentleman who did write them let him know. Thought I would explain this before this too get's confused.)
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