so ya wanna be a sugar daddy?

#41
Geeez, BMM. I said in my first post that the sex for money aspect of it is subtracted out of the picture...Of course that is the main difference. But the similarities still outweigh the differences.

'Verbal contracts' is a very subjective concept. When you have a gf, you build your relationship around the time you can spend together, and if your work schedules restrict you to one or two days a week, that time becomes very important. Very quickly you both agree on how that time is going to be spent, and yes that includes sex. No money changes hands, but there is plenty of discussion - followed by the actual act or acts - about what is going to happen, where its going to happen, what positions are going to be involved, and what orifices (orificii?) are going to be used.

Money is not the only coin of the realm when it comes to women. You pay in other ways with a gf. All that 'emotional involvement' is part of the price you pay to have sex with a gf.

The opportunity to be a sugardaddy as you describe it has happened to me more than once. What I heard and saw in those (bizzare) "lets talk about it" conversations was a woman thinking she was about to get a sugardaddy AND something VERY similar if not identical to a boyfriend. Its unavoidable, and it means that their standards go up. They already know you have money. What you look like and the kind of person you are become much more important than if you're just some guy she meets in a hotel room. Thats why what you're looking for is more of a challenge to find and keep than if it were just a straight provider situation.

Hey, at least you know what you want.
 
#43
axe, Ill have to take you down a different path, Im trying to be clear.

A 50++ gentleman, overweight, stands a very limited shot, and lets all be real, a very limited shot at having a 22 y/o half decent looking female to be his girlfriend. No matter what deals are cut, what understandings are reached, if this relationship has no basis for monetary gain for the female, then yeah, Id have to agree somewhat with you.
Reality though, 99 out of 100 times, an overweight 50 y/o is only going to score a 22 y/o the way he wants to score, if the entire relationship is based or originated on financial gain for the female who is willing to engage in sexual activities with someone older than her father.

Would I want to have a 22 y/o girlfriend instead of a sugarbaby, if she was stable mentally, I think Id try it, give it a go, but I couldnt be too reliable,,,,,,,,but Im not delusional.
Im not Richard Gere, Robert Redford or John Travolta, so the thrill of sleeping with me would have to be other than what one might actually see if they put themselves into the females position.And the mere fact that a 22 y/o would have some overwhelming desire to fuck and old fat fuck like me for pleasure, would right away lead me to believe she has a loose screw somewhere. Now, hows that for honesty.
Ive been around the block enough times to know young attractive women only gravitate towards much older men for one of a few various reasons.
Fame, wealth, power or insanity.
So since Im not famous, wealthy and dont really want a looney tunes, Im convinced any relationship someone similar to me will have with a 22 y/o based strictly on sex, will have to be some type of sugardaddy or financial arrangement.
thats the best I can do. I dont see it happenning any other way, and its not like I think of her as a girlfriend, not at all.

I do dig where youre coming from though, but Im not sure of your age, that might explain our differences as far as point of views are concerned.
 
#45
axe, Ill have to take you down a different path, Im trying to be clear.

A 50++ gentleman, overweight, stands a very limited shot, and lets all be real, a very limited shot at having a 22 y/o half decent looking female to be his girlfriend. No matter what deals are cut, what understandings are reached, if this relationship has no basis for monetary gain for the female, then yeah, Id have to agree somewhat with you.
Reality though, 99 out of 100 times, an overweight 50 y/o is only going to score a 22 y/o the way he wants to score, if the entire relationship is based or originated on financial gain for the female who is willing to engage in sexual activities with someone older than her father.

Would I want to have a 22 y/o girlfriend instead of a sugarbaby, if she was stable mentally, I think Id try it, give it a go, but I couldnt be too reliable,,,,,,,,but Im not delusional.
Im not Richard Gere, Robert Redford or John Travolta, so the thrill of sleeping with me would have to be other than what one might actually see if they put themselves into the females position.And the mere fact that a 22 y/o would have some overwhelming desire to fuck and old fat fuck like me for pleasure, would right away lead me to believe she has a loose screw somewhere. Now, hows that for honesty.
Ive been around the block enough times to know young attractive women only gravitate towards much older men for one of a few various reasons.
Fame, wealth, power or insanity.
So since Im not famous, wealthy and dont really want a looney tunes, Im convinced any relationship someone similar to me will have with a 22 y/o based strictly on sex, will have to be some type of sugardaddy or financial arrangement.
thats the best I can do. I dont see it happenning any other way, and its not like I think of her as a girlfriend, not at all.

I do dig where youre coming from though, but Im not sure of your age, that might explain our differences as far as point of views are concerned.
 
#46
sorry bout those posts, but Axe, I have on 2 occasions scored young pussy for free, but that was alcohol filled evenings, where the female was feeling no pain, and I think she was just sort of experimenting or not really giving a shit at that point.

I never heard or saw either of them again.

So Im still batting about the same as A-rod did this past playoff
 
#47
BigMadM said:
Reality though, 99 out of 100 times, an overweight 50 y/o is only going to score a 22 y/o the way he wants to score, if the entire relationship is based or originated on financial gain for the female who is willing to engage in sexual activities with someone older than her father.
Very true words. Sorry for going out on a tangent but this is also a very strong basis for legalizing prostitution. We are bombarded daily with advertising images of beautiful young girls which would be completely unobtainable to the average guy without prostitution. Basically we are forced to break the law to get what we are constantly being sold in ads or we will be extremely frustrated and angry.
 
#48
Understood.



A few points and I apologize if I'm repeating:

[1] Looking for a sugarbaby/sugardaddy setup they way you describe it is nearly as difficult as looking for a gf. I agree that its more likely you'll find a sb/sd before you'll find a gf. BUT...

[2] Dont underestimate yourself. There are late 20s and 30-something women out there that are very young looking for their age and some of them like older men. I dare say they like older men WITH MONEY even more.

There is an old Emo Phillips joke: "I used to try to fuck everything that moved, but then I thought: Why should I limit myself?"

Dont limit yourself. If you're gonna prowl for a sb, then why not also prowl for a gf?

Do BOTH and have fun while you're at it, BMM.
 
#49
axe, other things to consider-

A sugarbaby will never or almost never care to introduce me to any of her friends or family.
A gf usually cant wait to introduce her bf to family and friends.

A sugarbaby may be somewhat embarrassed by the fact that she decided to accept money for sex for someone 30 years her senior.
This important aspect of the sb/sd deal, is why its just so different that a real gf.
I doubt any woman would want to hide her real bf from her real life friends and family.If she does, I dont think Id want to be with her.
If my sugarbaby wanted to introduce me to her friends and family, I dont think Id want to be with her.

While the situations seem similar in certain areas such as sex, vacations, shopping, the real truth is its a completey secretive and hush hush lifestyle.
That is one major difference.(married or not)
 
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#50
My dictionary says a Sugar Daddy is "an elderly man who lavishes gifts on a young woman." Somehow the word "lavish" may not be quite the right way to describe BMM taking his SBL to wal-mart to buy some Pampers for her rugrats.
 
#51
youre right, pampers arent gifts, but if thats part of a financial arrangement, that might be 10 times more important to someone then a gucci wallet.

havent you ever heard, its not the price, its the thought?
(hehehe)
 
#53
I got an ***** from a girl I know, recently(not a sugarbaby, but a girl I frequented), she asked me to visit her a little, she needed money for a surgical procedure.
Theres a million needs in the big city.

heck, one girl I used to know escorted to support and keep her contracting business going.
 
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#56
This is terrific thread. Thanks BMM. The sugar daddy deal is interesting. Many ladies say they want it but don't want to put up with being "available" when Daddy wants them. They start acting like real women: whiney, temperamental, jealous, etc. I'm not a fan of sugar daddies although, God knows, I've been asked enough times! Must be my good looks!

Don't worry, be happy,

Chels
 
#57
Unlike some of you, I couldn't keep my emotions out of the sugarbaby equation, and my sugarbaby picked up on that quickly --- and played me like a cheap organ. The personal problems that brought the sb to me in the first place are the very problems that I wanted to fix after fucking her weekly for a few months. I was treating my sb more and more like a gf, but with clearer financial limits (which began to get blurred -- so I bailed eventually after the upteenth "emergency" phone call seeking more cash). I though I wanted a sb because I didn't want emotional content ... yeah, right.
 
#60
jras, I tend to think that the girls push and push to see how far we'll bend, but I think its us that eventually say ok, enough is enough, and we know we were getting played, but thats part of the big picture, I only let them play me, or let them think they are playing me in my comfort zone, gives them a sort of feeling of empowerment, they enjoy that. Us paying them sometimes makes them feel inferior, cause we have the money, they have to give up their preciouis bodies, so they push to see how much they can get, its a normal thing.
Ive had one ask me to cosign a 10 thousand dollar school loan, and I only knew the girl a month. Talk about pushing the limits?
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it almost reminds me of my kids when they were little tots, always seeing how much they can get away with, testing daddies limits, see when theyll get stopped.
 
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