so ya wanna be a sugar daddy?

[BigMadM]

well, the time has come, your past the stage of running around fucking every escort that posts an ad, or maybe youre getting scared of catching some disease, or maybe you just want the comfort of one good solid catch that will always treat you right, not cost you an arm and a leg, and you never have to worry about dissapointment again.
Whatever your reasons, there are alot of variables to be considered.
Is it worth it? Is anything worth it?
Depends what makes you happy.
Ive reached a point, like Im sure many others have, where the thrill of scoping the internet for 4 hours to find one good hour, often leaves me feeling empty, and like wow, what a waste of fucking time.
I dont want some 41 y/o escort deceiving me on her web ad with an 8 y/o pic, and 30 lbs ago, then to charge 3 or up an hour to only find out her idea of a gfe experience is no where what I think the standard gfe should be.
So I wasted 300 bucks, and now Im back to searching the internet for hopefully someone better.
Ofcourse, that is a big thrill for most, not knowing what to expect, win a few, lose a few, whatever turns you on I always say, but Im not looking for that thrill anymore.

The thought of spending hours to find one decent fuck, for only lets say 30 minutes, since most of us dont spend one hour having sex, maybe half of that, well, the thought makes me not want to even bother anymore.

Been there, done that, or whatever they say.

 

[BigMadM]

so after really thinking this stuff over, you decide hey, lemmee give this sugar daddy stuff a try. Where do I start?
First, even before you decide on a type of woman youre interested in, you have to realistically figure out how much money youre willing to commit to this relationship, and if youre willing to stick with it for a while, or just want to try it out for a month. Decide this all, cause it will make things easier in the long haul when you start your negotiations with a prospective sugar baby.

Now, if youre filthy rich, this is a no brainer idea.

Go out, find a model, if she wants 10 grand a month, and thats a drop in the bucket for you, so have fun, more power to you, Im envious of you, you are the man.
If youre somewhat wealthy, or considered well to do, you still can land a decent score, maybe a college girl that isnt a pro, not even a semi pro, but likes the idea of having some 50 y/o guy that will flip all her bills and then some while she concentrates on her studying, and all she has to do is fuck a few nights a week, which she does anyway, so why not get something out of it.
Then, my category, not poor, but certainly no where near rich, one needs to find the perfect combination of age, price range, looks, and service offered.
Yes, back to shopping again, but at least now, you can make one offer, if a girl likes the idea, you may find yourself at a different class of service, not usually offered by most, and it may suit your needs just fine.

 

[BigMadM]

so, where do you find a sugar baby?
well, theres always places to start, like sugar daddy . com, or other similar sites, but for me, these sites never worked, seemed these women are just a little too jaded for me, set their minds to make this much off a man every month, and dont want to do much in return, Ofcourse, I could be totally wrong, but this is only my experience.
If youre a monger, you run into prospective sugarbabies everywhere.
Just because a girl is a pro today, doesnt mean she enjoys her work, or even wants to continue, but usually its financial issues that got her here in the first place, so it might be those same financial issues that make her a good applicant for your new sugarbaby.
Ask around, if you know any ex escorts, ask them if they had roomies that wanted to try, but didnt want to full blown experience of being a pro escort.
Ask retired escorts, who are still young, maybe one client is more than enough for them.
ask anyone you think can help you find a girl, but never think and always remember once you let people in on your secret, it may come back to bite you on the ass one day.

I cant really tell you how to score the perfect girl, cause IM on like my 6 or 8th girl,(serious attempts at sugar daddy type deals, not just regular visits) and some last more than others, all but 2 were previous selling their bodies at one point of their lives, and all but 2 of them had kids.

If kids scare you, then be very careful who you choose to undergo this arrangement with.
Kids are kids, and they control a big part of the moms life.
If they are sick, your sugarbaby will most likely be miserable the day youre seeing her if she was up all night with a baby with an ear infection, and its not like youre going to say, oh well, Ill call the agency and get laid somewhere else. If you commit yourself, and you are serious, you have to take all the bad with all the good, and the good, should always outweigh the bad.
Ive had to feed many a children that werent mine in the highchair while the mommy caught some zzzzz's so shed be able to give me an hours worth of off the wall sex, always worth the work for me, but I understand not everyone is made out for this kinda shit.

I met one girl, actually a hit off CL, a college student, that was so inexperienced at sex, she didnt know how to suck a mans dick.
I tried to be her teacher, but I had no patience for that.
Its not like it was brain surgery, but she just coulndt catch my drift.
Shame, but she wasnt for me.

Most of girls come with alot of baggage, expect that.
Ex husbands, bfs, kids(I mentioned), so if you cant deal with her problems, stick to hourly escorts, since in that 50 miniute appt, you only have enough time to ask her how many kids she has, and wheres she from, the rest you spend taking a shower and getting laid.

 

[BigMadM]

my longest relationships with sugarbabies have always been single moms, since they are more stable as far as they arent moving around every month, and they are easier to deal with as far as money is concerned.
They are not off buying new cars or spending 4 grand on flat screen tvs, at least in my experiences.
I prefer women in earlly twenties, and Im not getting any models, but I do look for someone easy on the eyes, and a body that doesnt turn me off.
Most of the girls I saw, have somewhat of a medical history.
Not sickly, but mostly mental. Im not saying crazy, Im just saying depression, bipolar, and others didsorders commonly seen in people with mental problems.
Nothing too severe, but enough, at least much more than myself, cause Im no garden of health, but enough that I notice the difference lets say between them and members of my family the same age.

 

[BigMadM]

so l think I mentioned, my most successful relationships, are always with a woman that has knowledge of this business, or has been a pro at one point in her life.
I find that nothing suprises these types, and they are more willing to be agreeable to needs I have, which dont have to be discussed here, since everyman has different needs.
I dont look for emotional invovlement at all, but some may want some of that.
I look for a few hours a couple of times a week, and then they are free to do whatever they want, I dont interfere, and quite frankly, dont wanna know much, as long as it doesnt effect my well being or my health.
If a woman is fucking 9 men without condoms who she considers lovers, or bfs, Id like to know, since Im number 10, whether or not IM practicing safe sex, which again, is nobodys business but mine and hers, and I guess the others shes fucking also.


so, you finally found someone you think youd like to ask, shes young, decent looking, seems sweet, and now how do you approach her.
Directly, dont beat around the bush. Spell it out clearly.
Listen, I enjoy spending time with you, do you want to spend more time with me, on a regular basis?
If shes interested, tell her exactly what you want, what you expect and see if she agrees with you. If you expect her to give up her bf and only fuck you, you better talk with her and make that crystal clear so up the road you dont have major problems with her once you started, since it will usually end up as bad blood between you, and youll be back to where you were in the first place, searching again.

Spell everything out, almost like a contract, like a verbal contract.

If shes a single mom, no real bfs, she might not have any problem only fucking you as long as you keep up your end of the deal and keep the money coming in.

lets talk money, for those that never did this, what does it really take?

 

[BigMadM]

well,. that all depends on who you choose to see, and how much you choose to see her. If you expect to be in her home every day fucking her, you better have deep pockets.
She may only have charged you 200 bucks an hour before for sex, but now you want her exclusively every day, for 3 hours a day, that might run you 1500 bucks a week, so dont be an asshole and expect a girl to fuck you 5 days a week 3 hours a day for 500 bucks.

There is not set limit or set of rules in this game.
Anything can be worked out.
Rent, food, credit card, car payments, anything.
some guys expense this entire deal to their businesses, as expenses, put their sugarbaby on the payroll, and thats that.
Some guys use their expense accounts and take them shopping, to ante up more loot.

Me, I try to score 2 days a week, a few hours guaranteed each day, and I try to do it for 2-3 grand a month.(the secrets out)
That seems to be a point that makes enough girls happy, and still gives them freedom to pursue other careers, or school, and just enough to pay their bills, and keep them going. Keeps my girls happy, and keeps them keeping me happy.
Sometimes I give only cash, sometimes they need clothes, or kids clothes, and I take them shopping, sometimes to the supermarket.
Sometimes I pay their cell bills, their cable bills, their car payments, their rent, their drug dealer(I allow gangi only), whatever, like I said, pay what you can, and what youthink is fair and hopefully youll find a girl that agrees with you.

 

[Smoke&Mirrors]

I prefer women in earlly twenties, and Im not getting any models, but I do look for someone easy on the eyes, and a body that doesnt turn me off.
Most of the girls I saw, have somewhat of a medical history.
Not sickly, but mostly mental. Im not saying crazy, Im just saying depression, bipolar, and others didsorders commonly seen in people with mental problems.
Nothing too severe, but enough, at least much more than myself, cause Im no garden of health, but enough that I notice the difference lets say between them and members of my family the same age.

I agree in part with the single moms theory. The description of the girls psyche sounds like my ex wife's. The main reason I stay away from marriage, and serious relationships.

I'm no perfect being by any means,no one is,but I do not come close to having the mental problems found in some of the women out there. I have seen a myriad of beauties, but most carry some mental disorder in one form or another which is a reason to keep searching for something compatible, or acceptable.

 

[BigMadM]

most important, be patient. If your sugarbaby is having a bad day, dont push her for sex, only cause you have a flagpole of a hardon, treat as like a real girlfriend, cause you will benefit bigtime from this. If you find yourself not feeling like youre being treated right, on either end of the deal, its time to move on. Make sure the one big thing thats understood in the beginnning, is the NSA type of deal it is. Any day, any time, so either of you can walk and part without any drama.
Ofcourse, each time I part, I usually feel as if Im in a hole with money, cause it always seems the girl makes out a little better than me in the end, like I lent her a few bucks somewhere along the way, and she has yet to finish off theloan, but this is something each man has to decide, In the end, I realize for the price IM paying, and the service Im getting, an few extra bucks is very well worth it in the end.


Im posting this only so if anyone else here is similar in age to me, has similar reasons to seek out one girl, maybe he will share those experiences or at least his approach.
My intentions were not to offend anyone, not a provider of such services or insult anyone. These were my feelings and how I go about things.

 

[BigMadM]

sorry in my first post I meant a 41 y/o escort deceiving me with a picture on her web site that is 8 years old, not meaning 8 y/o, meaning shes putting up pictures of herself when she was younger, I just want to make that crystal clear for anyone that read me wrong.

 

[BigMadM]

and ofcourse, using me as a reference to certain things, is absolutely pure fiction, I dont do such things, but I wanted to post this idea.

 

[Bandaid]

That's exactly the kind of thing I'd like to do, and I have the exact same feeling about trying to find a decent hour session with a provider. It isn't worth it any more, especially since the chances of getting a decent session are way less than 50%.

 

[vermeer]

Whatdy mean "don't push"? If i had a ho on the payroll i'd be banging her so much, she's need a gallon of paint to repaint her cunt pink.

bmm, maybe you should write an ebook on this topic and sell it online.

most important, be patient. If your sugarbaby is having a bad day, dont push her for sex, only cause you have a flagpole of a hardon, treat as like a real girlfriend, cause you will benefit bigtime from this. If you find yourself not feeling like youre being treated right, on either end of the deal, its time to move on. Make sure the one big thing thats understood in the beginnning, is the NSA type of deal it is. Any day, any time, so either of you can walk and part without any drama.
Ofcourse, each time I part, I usually feel as if Im in a hole with money, cause it always seems the girl makes out a little better than me in the end, like I lent her a few bucks somewhere along the way, and she has yet to finish off theloan, but this is something each man has to decide, In the end, I realize for the price IM paying, and the service Im getting, an few extra bucks is very well worth it in the end.


Im posting this only so if anyone else here is similar in age to me, has similar reasons to seek out one girl, maybe he will share those experiences or at least his approach.
My intentions were not to offend anyone, not a provider of such services or insult anyone. These were my feelings and how I go about things.

 

[justlooking]

This thread already belongs in the HOF and it's barely started yet.

 

[BigMadM]

yeah, well, Id love to hear some of your expertise in this area, cause you are a couple of rungs up the ladder with this then me, so enlighten me, us, all of us, Id love to read an experts approach to this entire deal.

 

[UG Staff]

This thread already belongs in the HOF and it's barely started yet.

Stop reading my mind.

 

[greyfox]

This thread already belongs in the HOF and it's barely started yet.

When I read these posts this morning,I was reminded of something HvB posted about BMM being a great writer.This is so honest,natural and spot on it is amazing.

HOF-I wonder if excerpts,the creme de la creme,were organized for a book if the general public would be interested and what the reaction would be.I'm imagining a great marketing campaign with blowhards like O'Reilly going ballistic and Oprah and the old bags on The View gabbing about it.

Nah,nobody but us would give a shit.I'm surprised internet prostitution in general gets as little attention on TV tabloids as it does.

 

[BigMadM]

.I'm surprised internet prostitution in general gets as little attention on TV tabloids as it does.

too close for comfort for all the execs, producers, staff, etc, wouldnt want to give their SOs reasons for questioning late night work days.

 

[sean960]

Classic BMM

Stop reading my mind.

Gotta love this guy....

 

[jack sprat]

Great post BMM! Being 10+ years older than BMM, I understand exactly where he's coming from. Variety may be the spice of life (and it is certainly primary the reason why I monger), the law of diminishing returns inevitably sets in and it becomes harder and harder to find new providers who are truly enjoyable.

For me the answer has been to find a series of women who I enjoy seeing regularly. They are almost invariably indies who are close to BMM's profile: women with young kids and a wide range of financial and emotional issues. I like them a bit older than he does (+/- 30) because they are still quite attractive, have well honed sexual skills, and are more stable than the younger ones.......and a lot easier to talk with.

When I find one that I like, it is easy to establish an on-going relationship without going into the up-front financial commitment that being a sugardaddy would entail. These gals invariably welcome an on-going relationship and the reliable income that it safely provides. I can almost always get what I want from them when I want it. The costs are doing some babysitting type of chores as BMM so wisely describes and being there to help out went the inevitable financial crises arise.

The challenge is how to find women that you truly want to see that regularly. I have no easy answer to that. For me it has been a trial and error search thru the usual sources......but I do screen out visiting pros, young girls at agencies, etc because they are unlikely to lead to the type of on-going relatioship that i prefer.

 

[snooozi3]

Big MadM

QUOTE "Then, my category, not poor, but certainly no where near rich, one needs to find the perfect combination of age, price range, looks, and service offered." END QUOTE QUOTE Me, I try to score 2 days a week, a few hours guaranteed each day, and I try to do it for 2-3 grand a month. END
QUOTE.

Sorry to say but IMHO any monger who has 2-3 grand month for petty cash is well off and far from what you said. ..."no where near rich!" I guess you shop at Nordstroms and I shop at Kohl's. Any providers available for someone on a Kohl's budget? LOL