JAG is host of new Julie's web site - JAG is not Consumer Reports anymore!

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littleguy

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"He claims to get certain things subsequent visitors do not get..... yep, like dating Julies sister.

He never claimed any of US could get her. Who cares what stories are made up. I mean really. Stuff like that's just fodder for the jokesters.


"I don't really care who gets what from whom so long as I get the straight poop.... you didn't get the "straight poop" with Taylor ......did you?

Once again, as I said earlier, if he's Julie's shill, what purpose does it serve for him to mis-lead ? And again, preponderance of the number of reviews. If JB says he got something and 5 other guys said they didn't, I'll assume I more than likely won't. OTOH, I've gotten service(s) from a lady that weren't posted about at all and I've never said anything about them and neither has anybody else. Maybe, just maybe, I got them for some unknown reason and others didn't ? Who knows ?


"Candide was "outed" as "Miss JAG" ??? ..... that's was posted on jag by "hombre" (is he reliable enough for you?)"

Answered already. I would assume that somebody named "Ms. JAG" was a woman.

"LG...those comments about April are in her "april watch" thread, i believe they're posted by the author of that thread. I think it was something like “UG posts fake reviews for april (clpc)” as for her links.....there's a problem with the UG software that keeps putting her "signature" (a blue link) on the bottom of her posts (even after it was turned off). i think every time allen works on the board it resets or something (maybe sb or allen can explain this feature). secondly sb has posted this in the past, but UG advertisers will sometimes get cut some slack when it comes to spam posts or posting a link. also, if you notice it's not even the correct link (to aprils elite) and instead links to clpc which is no longer run by april."

Fake reviews are claimed all the time everywhere. I know April's reviews are accurate. Who cares what others believe ? I believe the reviews posted by people I know are reliable. Others I take with a grain of salt.

I mean really, the way you "talk" you'd think there was a concerted effort to destroy April over there. You KNOW that's not the case. You'd think that the only thing that was talked about on JAG was April's and how bad her girls are and you KNOW that's not the case either.

That thread you're referring to is almost dead. Hardly anyone mention's April's anymore over there. The ONE guy who really bad-mouthed her for something that happened long ago (and was straightened out by me) has finished with that incident a while ago.

OK, so maybe April's link comes up by accident. No sweat. And no, I never clicked on it. I know where to find her. (grin)


"And as for all of the other statements about Slinky and April being in bed together, and on and on and on-who really cares?..... just a point that someone should mind their own yard and not be concerned about someone else's. it's also a point that jag wants april and UG to go bye- bye for the good of their business (Julies)"

First of all, if Slinky and April ARE in bed together, brother am I fucking jealous.....

"ALL" the other statements. Where are they ALL ? I don't even remember reading one.


"here's a question? ever wonder why all these great jag members left ? it wasn't when jag went pay-site because you know most were still there after that change over and some with lifetime memberships that were canceled due to them voicing their opinions or questions about the above."

EXCELLENT point. I'd like to hear from each and every one of them that are here the reason(s) they left. Or, for one person to list them and the others to say "Aye".
 
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Just A Few Responses

The Evening is growing late-so I will try to make this shorter then usual. Heh-No Cheers from the Peanut Gallery. However, due to its importance it will still be fairly lengthy. Still not as lengthy as Bagger or Ozzy.

1-First of all I will say it again-the Bagger Thing is yet another example of someone saying something-good or bad-but not coming out and saying it under their own handle/or name. I have said this enough times-but I continue to think this is a bit ridiculous to say the least. Damn-all of these made up new names. If you got something to say-have the balls to say it under your handle/or true name!

2-When Thorn posted the following-I could not agree with it more.

I will say, because of that respect, that if it reaches the point
where a whoreboard [even one you ran for a period of time]
becomes that important to you, its time to check yourself.
There has to be a few priorities you've missed.

3-Ozzy, due to time-and exactly what Thorn stated in #2 above-all I will say about your response is that we are each entitled to our opinion.

However, Ozzy you did go on to post the following back to my statement about people posting under various handles/names:

note: the reason i changed my name was simply because i
grew tired with the one i had (it's not like i tried to hide behind
a new name). i attempted to change it on jag but i was
forbidden from doing that by MM. his post telling me not to
change my name is still there....just do a search for "Ozzy" on
jag.


Ozzy-I have just one question for you related to the above information that you posted, and I realize that only Slinky would know if your answer is truthful. And by the way-I realize that in no manner possible should Slinky be expected to let this very confidential information out. So it will probably just end right here. But-this is my question to you Ozzy- Are you trying to tell me, and the rest of the members of this Board that everything that you have ever posted on this Board (Utopia Guide) has been under the Handle/Name of Ozzy? That would mean that you have never, ever posted under other handles, alias', or names!
 
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i only told you why i changed my name from VV to Ozzy. I never said i haven't posted under different names on jag, UG, tbd, rsr or any other board. if you want to ask every single person on this board if they only have one screen name then i'll answer your question regarding this board...if you have an accusation to make than make it. i will say this...if i wanted to post a review or make a positive mention about some girl that i saw, i have every right (as does anyone else) to use a different name so as to protect my (or their) identity (real name or screen name).

however.... you can rest assured that not a single post that you have ever pointed out as a poster hiding behind a new name to slander someone (svengali, bagger, etc...) was me. NOT ONE! not sven, not bagger nor anyone else that you may be wrongly assuming is me (slinky can verify that). when i bash someone, i do it as "Ozzy", i've done it enough times, why would I hide now? it would defeat the purpose of being "the legend" (as you refer to me) if i were to post under unknown names to argue with you or to slander someone or to make any point. also i did say a few months ago that i was putting "Ozzy" on the shelf because it purpose was served. i said i would come back under a new name so you pose a loaded question. whether i've choosen that new name yet or what it is, is not the issue here because i can guarantee you that it will never be used to hide behind a bashing of anyone. i'll use it (when i use it) to simply to post useful (and unbiased) information to the board.



btw...bagger (who ever he or she is) didn't slander or bash anyone. he (or she) did however make a truly amazing and spot on analogy of the history of jag and rufus's connection to jag. i thought that (bagger) post was very well written and anyone who's interested in the history of jag and these "jag" threads should read that to better understand what exactly took place. and i'm telling you that's pretty much how it happened as i was one of those player/greens-keepers that bagger spoke of that actually played that course when it was private. anyone who disputes that analogy was either not there, lying or simply doesn't have a clue.

PS...rufus was the first person to ever meet "Ozzy", and did so long before there even was an Ozzy on the boards. rufus and i may not always see eye to eye on several topics but, what he says is a lot closer to the truth than anything i've seen posted by MM or any other sources.
 
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blackbag99

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Julie's IP address

Rufus,

You may have the technology questions down, but not necessarily the answers.

1. NO one these days gets a whole class C address for 1 or even 5 servers, jag nor julies need much more than a fast PC
2. Much of the 209 address space is owned by Web hosting providers. Do you actually think JAG is run in a basement?
3. The circumstances around julie's site changing and being NEAR an address of JAGs is circumstantial. I run a site with over 50 servers and I barely have enough addresses, I was not granted a class C, only partial. THe next guy down the hall or in the next rack has a range of addresses thats only 8 away from mine.
4. Its more than likely that Julies server is in proximity to JAGs, there are a number of hosting services that cater to the xxx world and escorting sites are easy enough to host and build.

So dont let circumstantial facts get in the way of a good time. If i had more money I'd go back to julies every week.

BB99
 
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Bill Furniture

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Originally posted by Ozzy
i only told you why i changed my name from VV to Ozzy. I never said i haven't posted under different names on jag, UG, tbd, rsr or any other board. if you want to ask every single person on this board if they only have one screen name then i'll answer your question regarding this board...if you have an accusation to make than make it. i will say this...if i wanted to post a review or make a positive mention about some girl that i saw, i have every right (as does anyone else) to use a different name so as to protect my (or their) identity (real name or screen name).
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I only post under this handle, I wouldn't wanna lose out on a few hundred posts added to my total.

I think it's fine for you to post reviews under a different name, you're not seeing the girls to be IDed by them.
 
Slinky Bender

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LG,

There aren't that many truly "lower priced places" around anymore, so it's not surprising that there aren't that many posts about them, but how would one explain the lack of posts about $150 outcalls ( which there actualy are around, and are well used ) ?

Also, as I pointed out to someone else recently, to say that there aren't more people posting here about $400 to $500 places is because "that price ..(is a ) point a place where the majority of the posters around here don't frequent" is somewhat circular reasoning. It's also incorrect to some extent - I happen to know for a fact that there are lots of guys who visit here who do visit these places on a regular basis. It just doesn't get posted about here ( or other public boards that I know of ).

However, I think you misssed my real point ( ignored ? ), which is this: it's obvious that there is plenty of buisiness done at well over the $200/hr price point through the internet. This is obvious simply by perusing the internet sites ( not only Eros, Exotics, Citivibe, etc, but also the individual agency sites, which appear to be the main portal for the upper end agencies ). What I mean is odd is that the guys who look for and finds girls at these price ranges on teh internet don't seem to post on the boards. It can't be because they can't find the boards, the boards are just too "present" for that.

My further point was that our view is skewed from the boards as to what percentage of the real business we are looking at. We seem to think we have a braod view of what is going on. In fact, we're seeing the tip, not the iceberg. As one expample, do the following excercise:

Add up how many "deals" a week you think get done at Julie's and April's combined. Compare that to the total you think get done at Logan's, Gina's, Peaches & Cream, Belladonna, Jane's, NYElites, American Beauties, Charles Angels, Party 7K, Amanda's, Eastside Luxury, Miami Companions, Bodyheat, Tower, Blue Velvet, and Role Play me.

Now, add up how many posts about each of those two groups you see on all the boards.

Seem strange to you ? It certainly does to me ( and not that I'm infering anything other than "curious" when I say that it seems strange ).
 
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Socketome

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BB99,

How about if you add to the mix:

A) JAG has said they do their own hosting, and

B) A simple whois search shows :

SuperNet, Inc. (NETBLK-SUPERLINK-BLK-1)
39 Milltown Rd.
East Brunswick, NJ 08816
US

for both.
 
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blackbag99,

Let's be clear here about the tech part...And before anyone says it, I couldn't care less if JAG hosted Julie's..

"1. NO one these days gets a whole class C address for 1 or even 5 servers, jag nor julies need much more than a fast PC"

This is just wrong. Yes, hosting companies have become more stringent about giving out tons of ip's for no good reason, but any good host will give it's top clients whatever they need. I can call any of my hosts for my other company tommorow and add 2-3 class C's with no questions asked. And, I happen to have 6 class C's spread over 9 boxes, so it's not like I'm just guessing that it can be done.

As for the rest , what can I say except I'd tell my hosts to fuck off if they treated me that way.

So, is JAG hosting Julies? The answer is obvious, but you can all draw your own conclusions.

BTW, I'd probably go to Julies every week as well if I was nearby :D
 
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Ozzy

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here you go rooster, my first UG screen name......"VV"


and a little further down......"Ozzy's" first post.


i guess this makes me a sham.....huh?


ps.....

i know you're gonna ask so..... you will note that VV made a total of 19 posts, of which you'll only find about a half dozen spread out over two threads.......


knock yourself out with the conspiracies over those 13 missing posts.
 
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Now Slink I hope you weren't thinking of "de-sainting" me. Of course, JC's solution wouldn't work because (1) I'm Jewish and (2) I have no soul. (No one should link those two as any sort of belief or generalization - I'm only talking about myself).

I don't disagree with anything RM's says. I let my JAG premier membership lapse mid 2001 because of all the shit going on and because I didn't feel I was going to be getting any "bang" for my buck. (Which in large part is due to my coming up to my almost one year sabbatical from hobbying - which may end soon BTW). And yes Rooster I posted under a different name and changed to my current simply because I liked it better.

I just think for the most part that RM is preaching to the converted (except for LG) and that all it is going to do is give him a headache like banging his head against the wall. There is a nice Jewish expression for this for those who are interested. THo I do understand his frustration at seeing something he loved turn into something he didn't envision.

I actually liked Bagger's post and thought it was right on the mark and it doesn't really matter who Bagger is because you can easily tell from all the other posts who shares that view and who it may be - but it doesn't really matter. As Ozzy pointed out it was not a case of someone posting under another name to slam someone and avoiding having it attributed to them.

I think Thorn was right on the money


And Ozzy, while you're clearing up the Kennedy thing, you might as well get the definitive answer on Hoffa, too. No need to bother with Judge Crater because we all know where he is now.
 
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Geezy Muldoon

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SK:

Yes, indeed. This is the car I stepped into back in 1930. I had to wait many years for the invention of the internet before I could converse and feel, at times, almost human again.

As far as Jews not having souls and qualifying for sainthood, it bears repeating that many of the saints during the first centuries of the Church were Jewish.

You may also have noticed that many Jewish mothers claim a type of sainthood and have an inspired ability to arouse feelings of deep guilt and worthlessness in their children, especially their sons.

Best regards,


Judge Crater


P.S. I'm running a special this week on de-sainting troublesome Jewish mothers.
 
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SkellyChamp

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JC

As I noted in, and the reason for, my paranthetical - I was only linking the two to me in particular as related to Slink's comment and was not making any larger comment.

That being said - all Jewish mothers are saints - I know this because they all tell me so. And all Jewish mothers will tell you that their guilt ridden and worthless sons are not really their fault though they must have failed somewhere but that they just don't know where since they gave all the nuturing and support they could have and that any son could have wanted or needed. Emasculated husbands is of course a different story.

P.S. - We've never met and even if we had I feel confident in saying that you could never de-saint me (sainted) mama - she would eat you alive and pick her teeth with your bones.

Oz - I always thought Hoffa was under the goalpost. Thanks for clearing it up.
 
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poor jag. Such losers. I found my thread filled with lies, but when I saw who posted I shrugged....it off... as they are Nobodies ... that crew are a bunch of assholes who dont know much. no biggie :)
 
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Ozzy

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SC....

the south endzone and gate C area are the same general vicinity. they wanted to make sure he was never found and thus he was chopped up and thrown in the mixer, so he's probably spread out over a large area.
 
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littleguy

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Hey Slink,

I don't pretend to have all the answers to each of these. As to why the $400 and over girls aren't reviewed I've seen many posts in many places about there being all sorts of reasons these girls aren't reviewed. Some guys may not want to admit they pay that much more than so many of the others for the same pussy, some may not want to admit to being ripped off by girls in that range (and look the real fool). There have been plenty of other reasons proffered as well. I don't know which are right and which are wrong.

As far as all the reviews skewed towards April's and Julie's I can't explain that either. A fair number of those places you mention I believe are in the same general price range. For the life of me I don't know why we almost never see reviews of these places.

Tip of the iceberg ? Of course I agree.

But I still think the $200-$300 price point is where most of the posters spend the time and money. Below that aren't reviewed primarily because of worrying about the place being known in the wrong circles, above that, for who knows how many reasons.

Circular reasoning ? Perhaps. Maybe chicken and egg stuff ? Do most guys review $200-$300 places because that's where they go ? Or do they gho there because most of the reviews are of $200-$300 places ?

Whatever.
 
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Bill Furniture

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Originally posted by littleguy


As far as all the reviews skewed towards April's and Julie's I can't explain that either. A fair number of those places you mention I believe are in the same general price range. For the life of me I don't know why we almost never see reviews of these places.
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There are quite a few reviews of NJ agencies and indies. I'll be posting about another NY agency soon.
 
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