Have you got "game"
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The gf has a female friend who was born and raised in France. Very pretty late 30s and has just started dating American guys. She says she laughs at all the self-help books we have here in the US for relationships and sex. She says you either got what it takes or you dont -and even if you dont you'll probably end up with someone with the same lack of skills. Everyone gets what they deserve. More or less.
I have been lucky in my life in many ways, and one of them is that I have been able to have significant/intimate relationships with women from a variety of countries and cultures (but no eskimos, SB). There are definitely different patterns and styles of flirting and romancing and seducing women from different places and backgrounds. However, imo and experience, there are even bigger differences from one individual woman to another.
In other words, a list of instructions/principles/rules for having game (in the style of this thread) would look different to go after women from, say, the US, France and Japan. However, two women with very similar backgrounds, standing next to each other in the same bar, dressed in the same general style etc etc can easily vary even more greatly. The right "game" for one is not the right one for the other.
What I am saying is really extremely obvious. They are individuals, and if you treat each as such, think and act as though she were your first and only (because it is the first and only time you will be able to try to establish a relationship with *her*, that specific woman), you will not only be more likely to get into her pants, you will also open the possibility of a much deeper and higher quality relationship.
And, btw, this is true even if it is a p4p situation.
-Ww
In other words, a list of instructions/principles/rules for having game (in the style of this thread) would look different to go after women from, say, the US, France and Japan. However, two women with very similar backgrounds, standing next to each other in the same bar, dressed in the same general style etc etc can easily vary even more greatly. The right "game" for one is not the right one for the other.
What I am saying is really extremely obvious. They are individuals, and if you treat each as such, think and act as though she were your first and only (because it is the first and only time you will be able to try to establish a relationship with *her*, that specific woman), you will not only be more likely to get into her pants, you will also open the possibility of a much deeper and higher quality relationship.
And, btw, this is true even if it is a p4p situation.
-Ww
Meaning that they would give up the "full potential..." in order to get layed more often, right? (Just to make sure I am parsing your post correctly.)
You are probably correct; however, my free advice (perhaps worth exactly what it costs) is not to do that.
A reasonable/logical strategy I suppose, but one that runs the risk of gradually eroding your ability to see women as (very very much) more than nearly interchangeable sexual commodities...which is a major reason, imo, not to approach even commercial sexual relationships in a formulaic "game" style.
-Ww
You are probably correct; however, my free advice (perhaps worth exactly what it costs) is not to do that.
A reasonable/logical strategy I suppose, but one that runs the risk of gradually eroding your ability to see women as (very very much) more than nearly interchangeable sexual commodities...which is a major reason, imo, not to approach even commercial sexual relationships in a formulaic "game" style.
-Ww
I appreciate the comments on everyone being unique -- and I really can't be someone other then myself, so things will play themselves out. That being said, so why was I posting on this topic? My take is that it has been a while ( more than a decade ) since I gave up NP4P. I'm married and it is far safer to go w/ P4P -- less danger of emotional involvement,etc.. At the same time, while being being excited about it and flattered, I'm afraid of fu*king up my life royally.. so I think I'm trying to get or keep some perspective here.
Look at SirF and what he is going through somewhat openly on this board. Divorce and cheatijng is painful. NP4P is probably the safest thing you can do. I am VERY lucky to have this somewhat attractive 37 year old filipina chick that I have had as a FB for the last decade. (Now she is very hit and miss, but it is a nice change of pace from the gf when she comes aroundf.)
I did say "it is far safer to go w/ P4P". Perhaps my phrasing was awkward? At this point any cheating would be heavily frowned upon, to say the least.
NP4P requires more time and adjustments & changes in behavior raise suspictions so I'll need to be creative. I had a very regular P4P setup until recently that was wonderful -- but it has ended and I have discovered how attached I was to her & this current little gambit is in part my therapy.
I have mentioned to my SO that I have been a little depressed lately (true) and plan to use this to "change my life patterns" as a cover.. Sounds like a plan.
NP4P requires more time and adjustments & changes in behavior raise suspictions so I'll need to be creative. I had a very regular P4P setup until recently that was wonderful -- but it has ended and I have discovered how attached I was to her & this current little gambit is in part my therapy.
I have mentioned to my SO that I have been a little depressed lately (true) and plan to use this to "change my life patterns" as a cover.. Sounds like a plan.
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Opps! Yeah P4P is much safer -- working girls get it all -- you have limited time.
My big P4P crush - the one I just "lost" -- always said to me "you just love women" and its true.. I do.
In my favor w/ this new NP4P girl, she has dropped hints that she was previously in relationships w/ married guys -- so hoping she get the deal. Just spoke w/ her and vibes were good -- its on for Friday night -- got to enjoy this moment , cause I know it does not last.
My big P4P crush - the one I just "lost" -- always said to me "you just love women" and its true.. I do.
In my favor w/ this new NP4P girl, she has dropped hints that she was previously in relationships w/ married guys -- so hoping she get the deal. Just spoke w/ her and vibes were good -- its on for Friday night -- got to enjoy this moment , cause I know it does not last.
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That's the paradox at the center of P4P. Does it matter if you have an SO or not? I dont know. I do know you want it to be good, but not that good. Then it slowly (or quickly) drifts in the direction of being that good. Now you're hooked and you've become delusional over how you feel about her. 'It's just P4P', you'll say to yourself. Then she leaves town to move in with an ex-bf who's been sleeping in his car since he got out on parole waiting for her to come back so she can pay his rent and he can get his apartment back...She's gone and you're fucked every way but with your dick.