Have you got "game"

#21
I act familiar, I make them laugh (often in the way that the response is: "Oh my God you're bad"), I am also the guy who touches you. They may cut it right away and often show you the road, but if there is a chance, I am already past square one (I have touched her hair and arm in the first minutes). I don't put visible importance into it. I act as if I have known them for years.
See, first look might be important, but while I am not bad looking I don't pretend to win someone over just by exchanging looks. There is always a guy next to me who is taller and better looking. I need to be close, I need her to lend me an ear.
Of course, I am the gentleman. Holding doors, allowing them to go first, offering help etc. These are things that come natural to me, with a smile, charming. I often get the bs "you European guys are gentlemen." (not sure on this though - it could be a stupid cliche)

One thing I have to add and that deserves attention is that a good start, is important, but it is just that. I used to screw it up later, when I had almost guaranteed the deal. Distraction, wrong direction of the conversation, leaning on her to blow a loud fart (OK not this one, but it could be a funny way to lose her)...
Have you noticed sometimes that her eyes are not shining anymore, you feel she's loosing interest, you lost her at some point. Sometimes it is just an impression. You still have her, but it threatens your self-confidence, which is very very important (without being a pompous ass, self-confidence is key).
I believe I have always had the best results when I took the whole matter lightly. If you see it as if you have nothing to lose, it helps you come across much confident and attractive.
Now if you've not gotten laid for sometime, if you feel suddenly desperate to have it, chances are you are more prone to scare her away. But this should be common sense. As in everything else.

Finally, I believe that the ability to seduce women is part of the same talent and potential to seduce people in general. Not to have sex, but somehow to be likable, to make them want to socialize with you, make them become intimate, lower their barriers, share secrets with you and feel comfortable. Always avoiding the "nice guy" status of course that Thorn very rightly mentioned.
 
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#23
I mostly agree with Axe. Guys without game missed some kind of developmental stage or something.
For some reason, I think it has to do with the high school experience. Although many people here learn their trade in the college years.

While it is true that you can't learn it by reading recipes, I believe it is a social skill and there is no reason why not to develop it later in life. We change. I used to be very social now I am a hermit. Other people change in the opposite direction.
 
#24
Friend with game

I wonder how much friends influence you. For example, if you spend time with lightweight will it help you pick up some of his tricks or will it make you more intimidated and sure that you will never make it like him?
 
#25
Wingmen

What about having a wingman? Some guys develop some kind of relationship that help each other in women presence. It is some kind of chemistry that involved humor, testing limits while still keeping it light, etc

What are your thoughts on this?
 
#26
Being in a company of a sexy girl(s) has always done magic for me. I don't know what stupid mentality is that but it works miraculously. They want someone who is wanted, not the leftovers. Having a wingwoman could be great, but simply being in company of women works very well.
 
#27
OK enough. I feel like a show off now. Nevertheless, I have been rejected millions of times. I usually take rejections lightly and move on, with ease. BUT always seen it as her loss.

And just in case, someone envies me for being a Casanova, let me remind you of the time when I got this super sexy chick in my bed and then couldn't get it up. Yes I had had all the game I needed and for what. My friends were dying with laughter as I had "the talk" with my penis in front of them. You can't make your penis understand unless you shame it in the presence of other penises.
 
#29
I simply say I'm a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs and if they give me a good fuck tonight, I'll consider marrying them. Or I'm a Senior Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, works every time with chicks who can read.

Wrapping a 100 around a stack of 1s is good too, and works with the BBQ crowd.

Walking around a gay bar shouting "Thats fabulous", gets me bbbj from gay guys.

But mostly paying my electric bill and internet bill, lets me watch all the internet porn I want and I dont have to worry about some chick actually liking me and calling every day.
 
#31
I simply say I'm a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs and if they give me a good fuck tonight, I'll consider marrying them. Or I'm a Senior Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, works every time with chicks who can read.

Wrapping a 100 around a stack of 1s is good too, and works with the BBQ crowd.

Walking around a gay bar shouting "Thats fabulous", gets me bbbj from gay guys.

But mostly paying my electric bill and internet bill, lets me watch all the internet porn I want and I dont have to worry about some chick actually liking me and calling every day.
Indeed, that is fabulous.
 
#32
Unfortunately, I dont think it's possible for the guys who dont have it to somehow 'learn' it. .... SNIP
I disagree. So long as you can act the part, reality doesn't matter. So long as you can force yourself to take steps that you might not otherwise, approaches, eye contact, conversation. You can get most of the way there. Someone without game might never be as good as a natural but can do quite well.

When i was a yute. I had anything but game. i was similar to thorn's "nice guy" the friend of all the honey's that never gets in their pants. Somewhere along the line, college, i evolved. i figured it out. Too late if you ask me.

Recently i have taken two high school kids under my wing. I'm coaching them on the finer points. So far so good. They are very receptive. Last weekend i went over "The Code" and "The 50 Mile Rule." I find that you can never underestimate the stupidity of a teenager though.
 

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#34
I simply say I'm a Managing Director at Goldman Sachs and if they give me a good fuck tonight, I'll consider marrying them. Or I'm a Senior Partner at Sullivan & Cromwell, works every time with chicks who can read.

Wrapping a 100 around a stack of 1s is good too, and works with the BBQ crowd.

Walking around a gay bar shouting "Thats fabulous", gets me bbbj from gay guys.

But mostly paying my electric bill and internet bill, lets me watch all the internet porn I want and I dont have to worry about some chick actually liking me and calling every day.
POST OF THE YEAR, so far. Fucking hilarious...
 
#35
A group of women, once told me. No women wants a nice guy. A guy that's going to say yes to everything. They said, if a women tells you that. They are lying through their teeth. They said, don't get them wrong. They don't want a guy abusing them, verbally or physically. Nice guy's become boring and stagnant. Not challenging enough.
 
#39
I've got little or no game -- and being with my SO for several decades means I have little recent practice. Virtually all my Non P4P action has been a result of women coming on to me... and since relationships can be a big problem when you are married, I have tended to stay w/ P4P lately. Today's issue: Woman at the car rental place i frequent really seems to like me. She is in some sort of supervisor role and when I get there she tells the other girl to handle a different customer and she helps me out w/ a better car.
This woman is a little butch but there are definitely vibes going on. A week or two later as I'm picking up an auto, she drives up and asks how I'm doing. She is acting professional ( in a business way ) put her actions are too obvious to not think she is into me. Anyway-- what's my game? I'm thinking if I get the private momemt I mention that we seem to have some chemistry and ask for her number... I wear a band and have been in there w/ my SO , so this women know the score... Any thoughts?
 
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