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JXM

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Slinky Bender said:
I really don't agree, there's plenty of stuff people watch and get turned on by which they wouldn't up close and personal. In fact, the scenario you describe is exactly one of them: there's plenty of guys who watch 2-on-1 (MFM) porn but couldn't handle it IRL. but also, it doesn't mean the inverse is false. In other words, there can be things you aren't turned on by watching in a video which would turn you on IRL. I'll give your example of water sports: i would never watch a video, but if in the heat of passion some girl wanted to do it, i would probably find it hot.
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Perhaps. Although I'm pretty good about not lying to myself when alone. And also I've been in mmf threeways and never had the impulse. But I see your point.

Slinky Bender said:
I wrote a similar post last night on a slightly different subject. the only quibble I have is that it depends on the specifics. What if the two invovled were {insert the name of whatever girl is your ultimate fantasy right now} and the price was $50. Of course that example is rediculous, but there's ground in between. Although I'm sure in the instance you are tlaking about, they not only wanted it their way, but at a price which should have been your way, and when that's the case i 100% agree with you.
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It isn't that there aren't circumstances that I might do it, but what circumstances I might be excited to do it. The girl was very hot and for a couple of hundred I might have tried it. But no way under their parameters. When she asked me what my kinks were and I told her I liked to piss on girls she freaked out and called me crazy. Go figure.
For the right set of circumstances I might do anything, but I'm more talking about what my tendencies might be.

Slinky Bender said:
Again, I disagree. I'll bet half the guys (or much more) who do this have a drink (or 3) before or during sessions with girls. They didn't come up with in vino veritas for nuthin'. Think of what the definition of "inhibitions" is. Don't tell me there's never been a girl who you assfucked who liked it, but had to take something (liquor, pot, xanax, whatever) to get "in the spirit".
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Fair point with many people, but I'm a guy that understands that an ugly girl in a bar at 2am is still ugly. I just care less. I don't all of the sudden think she is beautiful.

Again, I think that is two different things. People also like doing things when they get a pile of cash. Do they like what is being done or do they like the cash? Do people just like being crazy and intoxicated or do they really enjoy what they are doing?

Assfucking also has to do with relaxation so in your example it might really help. I'm not sure how doing X is going to make me want a guy to suck my cock if I wouldn't want him to otherwise.
 
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#82
#82
JXM said:
Assfucking also has to do with relaxation so in your example it might really help. I'm not sure how doing X is going to make me want a guy to suck my cock if I wouldn't want him to otherwise.
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As I said, it's all about inhibitions: did you ever know a guy who everyone always knew was gay....... except him. And then later in life he figures it out? (or worse, doesn't and just can't understand why he's so unhappy). My point being that with a lot of stuff, it's very hard to too tell if your "not liking" is due to some inhibitions which you've been taught socially.
 
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JXM

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#83
#83
Slinky Bender said:
As I said, it's all about inhibitions: did you ever know a guy who everyone always knew was gay....... except him. And then later in life he figures it out? (or worse, doesn't and just can't understand why he's so unhappy). My point being that with a lot of stuff, it's very hard to too tell if your "not liking" is due to some inhibitions which you've been taught socially.
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Agreed. And of course, the opposite of love isn't hate, it is indifference.

I'm not going to say there are no circumstances under which I'd do something, because every time I've said that in the past I've done it anyway. I can say that I have no interest, which is different than having inhibitions.
 
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DoctorBeaver

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100% Real Man Here

I am 100% heterosexual and not ashamed of it in the least in this new age where the media has made it trendy to be gay or bi. I am not interested in sucking another man's cock. It's just like not liking asparagus for me. I have no interest in men or in the vegetable. No man should be ashamed of his heterosexuality.
 
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justlooking

#85
#85
Heterosexuality is nothing to be ashamed of. But it's not so fucking great, either.

The way I see it, my heterosexuality cuts my potential experiences in half. That's something I'm supposed to crow about?

You're right. It's like not liking calf's liver. I'm not ashamed of it. But everytime I go to Venice and see people eating delicious-looking fegato, I wish my tastes were broader.
 
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marcinny

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Unless you already tried gay sex and you didn't like it, you can't be 100% hetero. Even in that case you still have to ponder on what exactly you did not like.

I wonder, at this point, whether "100% Real Men" or "gay" are cultural rather than sexual identities.

Men, simply don't appeal to me, but what I usually don't like in these debates is either of the side trying to push the issue. I have come to this idea that men who boast about being "100% real men" do have something to fear. You just don't go out to say that unless there is something inside that bothers you.

However, I also don't buy the "gay culture". Just because you enjoy having it up your ass, does not necessarily make you different in other aspects of life. I think they too are pushing this a bit too far. I strongly suspect that they would reject you from the community if you don't covert culturally. Sucking cock and bending over will not suffice.
 
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justlooking

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I think that's part of my problem.

I could remotely conceive that I could try and like getting buttfucked.

But there's no fucking way I'm gonna start listening to Liza Minelli.
 
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marcinny

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Hahahahahaha

There is an episode from Will & Grace, featuring Matt Damon who is an aspirant actor for a role in a Broadway show. He is also a fake gay. When exposed as a just another hetero, he justifies himself by saying "There is no other way you can make it in this business".

Back to the real life, while I have no idea whether people who play in Broadway shows are gays, I know for sure a couple of photographers and home decorators, who are not gay, but they act the part. They say it makes a huge difference in their business fortunes.

Anyway, I think most of the guys here (and you can start another poll if you want) would rather brave through a Lisa Minelli three-hour solo recital than let anyone touch their "holy hole".
 
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Waterclone

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marcinny said:
Unless you already tried gay sex and you didn't like it, you can't be 100% hetero. Even in that case you still have to ponder on what exactly you did not like.
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I disagree. Being heterosexual or homosexual has nothing to do with whether you like gay sex. It simply describes who you are attracted to.

You can love getting it in the ass, but if you aren't attracted to men, then you are not homosexual.

Likewise, you can be totally hot for guys, but totally not into anal sex.

Despite the names, Homosexual and heterosexual don't refer to sexual activities. They refer to attraction.
 
Waterclone

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#93
blondekelly said:
I do hear men are better cock suckers!
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And women are better at eating pussy.

Except when they aren't.

I think it's easier to learn quickly if you are similarly equipped as your partner, but once you have learned what you are doing, it's all the same.

Since men have dicks, when we give a blow job we can remember what we like and it gives us a head start. A women would have no frame of reference for the memory, but if she has a good imagination, or is empathic and can sense what her partner is liking, she can do just as well.

In genera, someone who is empathic and can imagine how their sexual partner feels will be better at making their partner feel good.

That said, this is all speculation for me. I am not homophobic, but I do lack the experience to speak first hand. I hope that doesn't disqualify my opinion.
 
Waterclone

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#97
Although, I can see how this would be useful...

After all, no one should be as good at Greek as a guy who likes strap-on service, right? ;-)
 
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justlooking

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#98
blondekelly said:
I do hear men are better cock suckers!
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That's the big appeal of the trannie seen for us heteros, right? For oral, at least.

Being penis-equipped, the person giving you the blow job will probably have mad skillz. And he/she'll look like an attractive woman -- and just getting a blow job, you wouldn't have to think much about what kind of equipment they have.
 
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