Anal fisting?

#81
Compare it to an intense warm up before any sporting event. muscles are stretched, twisted, pushed, overextended for any event. aanl prparation may include enemas unti clear, strtching with increasingly larger butt or vaginal didldos, deep breathing and metitation and connection with ones partner. it is built up gradually, not just ploughing a dry object into t tight orifice that has had no pereparation or lubrication. Take a look at thos same opening 15-30 minutes after compoetion and they look very different (and much tighter) indeed.
 
#82
I'm also gonna agree with waterclone if you are straining and pushing and forcing to get out a bowel movement than something is not right. Normally you just relax the muscle and gravity and peristaltic action takes it course. If you are eating lot of things that do not digest well, like nuts, whole grains, corn, these could be adding to the problem. You should be drinking at least 8 glasses of liquid a day (preferably non-alcoholic, non- carbonated). Also add more fiber to your diet. Either speak to your proctologist friend immeidiately not when he visits, and/or make an appointment with an internist, gastroenterologist and a proctolist for a though work upp. They can scope you from both ends iendocope and proctoscope (scope is the thickness of a pencil), do ultrasounds, radioactive swallows ,cats scans etcetera. The symptoms you are experienceing are far from normal & coould be causing continuing damage if they go unchecked. they could be as simple as piles/hemorrrhoids or some kind of prolapse. I am just presenting some of the most common problems here. Without a proper work up & diagnosis, there is no way of telling. So please take this out of the arena of a debate on the pros & cons of different forms of recreational sex to having your specific problems diagnosed and if necessary treated.
Check web MD for a laymans explanation of some of your signs and symptoms & follow recommendations to consult with a medical professional
 
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Slinky Bender

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#83
Guys have been known to have heart attacks and/or strokes from straining too hard. Remember the Somprano's episode where the guy dies on the can?
 
#84
Thanks guys for your concern, my butt is in good shape. It is uncommon that I have problems taking a dump, more often it is too loose. I just came back from Mississippi, and there food has given me a bad case of the runs.

I think about the few times I have trouble going to the bathroom, an example is when my dentist gave my percocet, I was really constipated. I was in pain after I took a dump. I am not saying that this is the same as being well lubed for anal fisting, but I can not imagine that act being healthy. The butt is not meant to have a hand stuck up it.
 
#85
Thanks guys for your concern, my butt is in good shape. It is uncommon that I have problems taking a dump, more often it is too loose. I just came back from Mississippi, and there food has given me a bad case of the runs.

I think about the few times I have trouble going to the bathroom, an example is when my dentist gave my percocet, I was really constipated. I was in pain after I took a dump. I am not saying that this is the same as being well lubed for anal fisting, but I can not imagine that act being healthy. The butt is not meant to have a hand stuck up it.
One of the side effects of most pain medications is constipation, but even so pain lasting for weeks and/or loose stools is definitely an indication for medical attention. Eddy just looking out for you. Is there a reason you are avoiding having yourself checked out , instead of debating the effects of anal fisting? I onlyask because I care. It's a relatively simple procedure and I don't know what age range you are in but it is recommended for any male 50 or above! It is also oneof the most treatable things, if their is a problem and it is diagnosed and there is only one way to do that.Just my $02
 

Waterclone

Go ahead. Try me.
#86
I think about the few times I have trouble going to the bathroom, an example is when my dentist gave my percocet, I was really constipated. I was in pain after I took a dump. I am not saying that this is the same as being well lubed for anal fisting, but I can not imagine that act being healthy. The butt is not meant to have a hand stuck up it.

Again, it seems like the reason that you can't imagine he act as being healthy is because your body isn't in healthy shape in the first place.

As for your last sentence, that doesn't even belong in his forum. "The butt is not meant to have a hand stuck up it???" Come on. And the mouth is meant for eating and breathing only, but that's not stopping me from getting a blow job.

Let's end this. You don't think it's healthy, but have no evidence to back that up. Fine, so don't do it yourself. But this is the last place anyone should be saying what is and isn't meant to be!
 
#87
Again, it seems like the reason that you can't imagine he act as being healthy is because your body isn't in healthy shape in the first place.

As for your last sentence, that doesn't even belong in his forum. "The butt is not meant to have a hand stuck up it???" Come on. And the mouth is meant for eating and breathing only, but that's not stopping me from getting a blow job.

Let's end this. You don't think it's healthy, but have no evidence to back that up. Fine, so don't do it yourself. But this is the last place anyone should be saying what is and isn't meant to be!
I am in great health, and not having fists stuck up my ass should keep it that way.
 
#88
Did a Google on it.

There are potential health risks that must be taken into careful consideration before engaging in fisting. While fisting done with proper care carries a low risk of injury, when done improperly it can result in serious injuries, including ruptured bowels, internal tears, rectal/colonic infection, urinary tract infections, pelvic inflammatory disease, bruising of the cervix, mucosal laceration, muscle tearing, temporary fecal incontinence, or sterility (Inciardi 2000).

Another One

Despite the horror stories that regularly circulate in certain quarters, if fisting is practised in moderation, with patience and care and with due attention to the fistee's feelings it is highly unlikely to lead to serious problems. Trauma and infections in the gut are possibilities but should never happen in responsible fisting. If you think you do have a problem, consult a doctor or a special clinic, and be honest about what you think the cause might be.

Also bear in mind that in engineering terms, fisting exceeds the design specifications of the anus and rectum. If you're fisted frequently there will probably be some long term effects. Certainly being fisted can increase your tendency to fart. You're faeces may increase in girth and you may find you want to shit at irregular intervals. But there should be little long-term effect for those who practise this intense and satisfying form of play as an occasional treat.

My Conclusion:

If done correctly and not often, there is no health risk.
 
#89
Thinking about it, I have had a finger up my butt.

I once went for a massage from a Provider on CL, towards the end of the massage, she put on rubber gloves, and stuck her fingers up my butt, after a minute or so, I told her to stop. I was not turned on. The next day I felt the need to shit most of the day. My butt felt uncomfortable for a few days following.
 
#90
Laxatives for Constipation

You could be correct.

When I am constipated and have to force out a big dump, what a pain in the ass. A pain in the ass that can last for weeks.
. That is why there are laxatives for constipation. Why would you force something out whne you cantake a laxative & save yourself the pain & discomfort. Often constipation is due to a lack of sufficient fluid intake or a diet of very hard substances that don't digest well, like large amounts of nuts, popcorn or many other foods with a low fluid content. Laxatives orfiber supplements draw water tot eh area and also lubricate you internally so that you con't have to strain or force to pass stool. Forcing it without a alaxative or fiber supplement can actuallly cause your bowel to prolapse or one section to slide inside another. This is not from anything being forced in, but from you straining too ttto hard to force it out. Cosjnuslt your friend the proctologist or google some informative medical sites like
Web MD or Mayo Clinic or do a search on chronic constipation and read about it. Then do some reading on anal fisting. I am sure you will find authoritiies more informative and convincing then our opinions or explanations
 
#91
Dying taking a dump

Guys have been known to have heart attacks and/or strokes from straining too hard. Remember the Somprano's episode where the guy dies on the can?
. there is something called the vagal nervewhich is stimulated whensomeone strains to passa bowelmovement. It canlead to many different cardia arrythmias, thish can lead to heart attack , irregular beats or even death. It is not uncoomon for a cardiac patient to experience this phenomena when they are up in the bathroom or using a bad pan. That is why crdiac patients are always hooked to wireless transmitters which go to monitors to immeidately alert the staff if this phenomeno is occuring. Cardiac patients are continued on the wireless transmitters evenwhen they are moved to intermediate or stepdown unitsas well as all post-op cardiac surgical patients.tHIS CAN ALSO HAPPEN WITH SOMEONE WITH NO PRIOR CARDIAC HISTORY LIKE WHAT SLINKY DESCRIBED ON THE ONE SOPRANOS EPISODE!!!
 
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#92
Same Suggestion

You might have piles.
Takea laxative, include your fluid intake ( non-carbonated, non-alcohol) to at least 8 glasses a day, add fiber toyour diet and you can also take a fiber supplement.
Piles is hemmrohoids a swlling or soreness of internal veins in the rectum, whcih can bleed as well.. Use something like Preparation H.
 
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#93
There are potential health risks that must be taken into careful consideration before engaging in fisting. While fisting done with proper care carries a low risk of injury, when done improperly it can result in serious injuries, including ruptured bowels, internal tears, rectal/colonic infection, urinary tract infections, pelvic inflammatory disease, bruising of the cervix, mucosal laceration, muscle tearing, temporary fecal incontinence, or sterility (Inciardi 2000).

Another One

Despite the horror stories that regularly circulate in certain quarters, if fisting is practised in moderation, with patience and care and with due attention to the fistee's feelings it is highly unlikely to lead to serious problems. Trauma and infections in the gut are possibilities but should never happen in responsible fisting. If you think you do have a problem, consult a doctor or a special clinic, and be honest about what you think the cause might be.

Also bear in mind that in engineering terms, fisting exceeds the design specifications of the anus and rectum. If you're fisted frequently there will probably be some long term effects. Certainly being fisted can increase your tendency to fart. You're faeces may increase in girth and you may find you want to shit at irregular intervals. But there should be little long-term effect for those who practise this intense and satisfying form of play as an occasional treat.

My Conclusion:

If done correctly and not often, there is no health risk.
Myconclusion is that unless you have an MD after your name, you shouldn't be making any concludions, no more hthan I should be telling yoou how to do your job unles I am a speciallist it that field & even then specialist vary and disagreee constantly. Some of the sources you quoted even stated it might no be dangerous if done correctly and NOT FORCED!!!! Being sited increases your tendency to fart (because you are forcing air into a space with a valve (sphincter). Baked Beans also increases my tendency to FART, as does spam & brocolli & Lima Beans.As far as defined in engineering terms & exceedoing load bearing, we are talking about the human body which is not produced to specifications like a car or a bridge. Percocet prescreibed for dental work can cause constipation, but it is only prescribed for a couple of days & it clears the systems within 24-48 hours. So you being in pain for weeks at a time is not normal, no matter how you are going to try and avoid it. You are an adult and are going to do wthat you are going to do, but frankly I would be honored to have so many people concerned about my health & recommending a dooctors visit & treatment if necessary , rather than trying to debate how far what can stretch. Again I am talking from a medical background and there are womanwho have had multiple babies who are as tight as a virgin after & you could never tell. It has to do with type of delivery, natural or c-section, episiotomy or not and muscle tone. Vaginal muscles can be exerccised. They are call Keigl (sp) exercises, that strenthen muscl e tone and clamping power & tighness.
Now stop dancing around yoour problem and go see a doctor as this has been going on for months & your proctologist friend should be here soon. Again I wish I had as many people caring about me as you have caring about you
 
#94
Myconclusion is that unless you have an MD after your name, you shouldn't be making any concludions, no more hthan I should be telling yoou how to do your job unles I am a speciallist it that field & even then specialist vary and disagreee constantly. Some of the sources you quoted even stated it might no be dangerous if done correctly and NOT FORCED!!!! Being sited increases your tendency to fart (because you are forcing air into a space with a valve (sphincter). Baked Beans also increases my tendency to FART, as does spam & brocolli & Lima Beans.As far as defined in engineering terms & exceedoing load bearing, we are talking about the human body which is not produced to specifications like a car or a bridge. Percocet prescreibed for dental work can cause constipation, but it is only prescribed for a couple of days & it clears the systems within 24-48 hours. So you being in pain for weeks at a time is not normal, no matter how you are going to try and avoid it. You are an adult and are going to do wthat you are going to do, but frankly I would be honored to have so many people concerned about my health & recommending a dooctors visit & treatment if necessary , rather than trying to debate how far what can stretch. Again I am talking from a medical background and there are womanwho have had multiple babies who are as tight as a virgin after & you could never tell. It has to do with type of delivery, natural or c-section, episiotomy or not and muscle tone. Vaginal muscles can be exerccised. They are call Keigl (sp) exercises, that strenthen muscl e tone and clamping power & tighness.
Now stop dancing around yoour problem and go see a doctor as this has been going on for months & your proctologist friend should be here soon. Again I wish I had as many people caring about me as you have caring about you
Mr. Fingers - Took a while for your response, almost forgot about the thread, and about having a fist up my butt. I am not going to try it, but my opinion stays the same, with or without an MD after my name.
 
#95
Your welcome to your opinion and I for one am certainly not going to talk you into trying it! This thread is the Alternative thread specificaly for discussion of things other than missionary position for purposes of procreation, and that covers a lot of ground. All I wish is that you find whatever is right and most enjoyable for you & that you enjoy the hell out of it & keep going back for more. At the same time allow those who find this subject of interest to discuss it & if they choose totry it without dissiading them without facts to support your suppositions. Your feeling are your own and I respect them. Please allow the same respect for those who have an interest in this form of play. If it took a while for me to respond I t was because I was referencing several different information sources and wanted to make sure I supplied the proper information for anyone interested in the topic.
 
#96
Your welcome to your opinion and I for one am certainly not going to talk you into trying it! This thread is the Alternative thread specificaly for discussion of things other than missionary position for purposes of procreation, and that covers a lot of ground. All I wish is that you find whatever is right and most enjoyable for you & that you enjoy the hell out of it & keep going back for more. At the same time allow those who find this subject of interest to discuss it & if they choose totry it without dissiading them without facts to support your suppositions. Your feeling are your own and I respect them. Please allow the same respect for those who have an interest in this form of play. If it took a while for me to respond I t was because I was referencing several different information sources and wanted to make sure I supplied the proper information for anyone interested in the topic.
If you followed my posts, I went from being 100% against it, to it's alright, but not for me. As far as sex acts, Live and let live, as long as rape is not involved.
 
#98
Big ABSOLUTE NO-NO'S Rape (A CRIME OF VIOLENCE),Anyone ******** or of diminished capacity. WHICH CAN NEVER EVER BE CONSENSUAL, NEVER EVER which is different than age play with someone of legal age who is role playing!Anything involving animalswithouttheir consent (try to get a dog to sign a notarized statement consenting and get it witnessed). Anythingthat puts a person in possible danger of loss of life or limb.
 
#99
Big ABSOLUTE NO-NO'S Rape (A CRIME OF VIOLENCE),Anyone ******** or of diminished capacity. WHICH CAN NEVER EVER BE CONSENSUAL, NEVER EVER which is different than age play with someone of legal age who is role playing!Anything involving animalswithouttheir consent (try to get a dog to sign a notarized statement consenting and get it witnessed). Anythingthat puts a person in possible danger of loss of life or limb. I'm sure I can think of more. IMHO & experience a completed meidical History filled out honestly by the sub listing any & all medical conditions, medications taken, diabetes which can lead to circulatory impairment, breathing problems, cardiac problems,and a host of othe thing . Basically a complete and total Physian Peformed Physical that would clear the submissive for intense athletic competition over extended periods of time.
 
NYCKinksub it used to be a pretty popular activity at clubs like hellfire sit numerous slings. Paddles doesn't allow it. It takes afairamount of time for preparation,cleansing, lubing and slow gentle insertion constantly adding more lube, one finger at a time, until thefister can tuck there thumb and ease their way in. There is never such a thing as too much lube. Withdrawal also takes a fair amount of time as well as cleanup. It is bes to protect the area with shower curtain liners or heavy gauge plastic with mor waterproof material underneath especialy if you are doing it on a bed. Some of the mutliday S/M B/D events have literally a bus full of equipment for everything from suspension to fisting, piercing, tattoooing , pony play, medical play & age play plus some renowned vendors. The next 3 day event I am aware of is coming up in New Jersey in July or August. I am sure you can find informationon it by googling or with the permission of administration, I will post the web site. Unfortunately the kink scene like many other scenes ain't what it used to be. Most activvitiesarelimitedtoweeklydemonstrationsin NYC and private house parties or in a venue whertheentire space is takenover. There must be a very organized and constant emphasis on safety,with people on hand who are skilled and certified in Advanced Life Saving Technique.

If you have a question or comment on anything alternative or kink related, this is the section to bring it to.Please don't judge people because their turn-ons are different than yours. Ivthink there is a disclaimer at the begininng of this section regardomg trolling and inappropriate or degrading postings. Please check the beginningof the section forthe eact wording. It's time for me to CRASH! Sweet Dreams!

It says"Alternative If you don't want to participate, don't come in. Trolls will not be tolerated."
 
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