....maybe!...As I said (and NO it's not that I"m dense) I have no knowledge of what he said on another board. And while I have no reason to dis-believe you I can only assume that quote is true since it was as you say deleted. But in all honesty....THANK YOU. I have only been asking for weeks, that someone, not just simply bitch and moan but make a real case and yours is the first step toward such. I don't feel I have to defend him in particular, just anyone who has more than 1 other person jumping their shit, for no "apparent" reason. This reason albeit valid was less than apparent(since it was not said here). I still do stick to the fact that he overall had worse said to him by people here than even that statement he made.(unless there is some other tidbit from that other board)...and actually not by you specifically.