Rev of Ms. XXX or 24 hours in the Twilight Zone?
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MAybe........
maybe she was giving you a TRUE GFE ?
you should have been more forward when you saw that it clearer was not going the way you expected - she was aware too - next time (if there is a), ASK ...
next, if it wasn't working - you should have worked something out financially and sent a car for her to be brought home - of course after you've both mutually agreed that it just was not working out
but, most importantly, EVERYONE has an off-day - this might have been hers... You don't know what "just" happened to her before you picked her up. You don't know if she is having personal issues - Ya know, sometimes...........
maybe she was giving you a TRUE GFE ?
you should have been more forward when you saw that it clearer was not going the way you expected - she was aware too - next time (if there is a), ASK ...
next, if it wasn't working - you should have worked something out financially and sent a car for her to be brought home - of course after you've both mutually agreed that it just was not working out
but, most importantly, EVERYONE has an off-day - this might have been hers... You don't know what "just" happened to her before you picked her up. You don't know if she is having personal issues - Ya know, sometimes...........
You're right...
MJC,
I realize you can only speak for yourself, but, you're right - after hearing the stories you've told me about your adolesence and early adulthood, I DO understand what you're saying...
Why settle for just a backrub, when you can have the whole enchilada!
But, as I've said to you before, there are groups for the kind of abuse you've endured - support and therapeutic...there's no need to cast stones at all mother-son relationships. You CAN recover from this
Lemur
MJC,
I realize you can only speak for yourself, but, you're right - after hearing the stories you've told me about your adolesence and early adulthood, I DO understand what you're saying...
Why settle for just a backrub, when you can have the whole enchilada!
But, as I've said to you before, there are groups for the kind of abuse you've endured - support and therapeutic...there's no need to cast stones at all mother-son relationships. You CAN recover from this
Lemur
Gents, I am baffled
I don't get it. Sure, people have off days. A girl or guy might need to cancel at the last minute for any number of reasons. No problem. Things happen and we have to adapt. What I don't understand is how one can get to the 2/3 mark of a 24 hour date (assuming only 16-18 hours due to sleep needs) and only then start discovering there is a problem.
One possible scenario is that something was bothering this lady and that she was trying to tough it out because she needs the booking. She tried to take some time to relax and adjust. Maybe she just never got comfortable and basically just bailed in the only way she knew how, by stalling.
Sound reasonable? Maybe. In any case, Phantom has got to either step up and call it what it is, or simply go along and continue the scenario to its illogical conclusion.
I don't get it. Sure, people have off days. A girl or guy might need to cancel at the last minute for any number of reasons. No problem. Things happen and we have to adapt. What I don't understand is how one can get to the 2/3 mark of a 24 hour date (assuming only 16-18 hours due to sleep needs) and only then start discovering there is a problem.
One possible scenario is that something was bothering this lady and that she was trying to tough it out because she needs the booking. She tried to take some time to relax and adjust. Maybe she just never got comfortable and basically just bailed in the only way she knew how, by stalling.
Sound reasonable? Maybe. In any case, Phantom has got to either step up and call it what it is, or simply go along and continue the scenario to its illogical conclusion.
My superior intellect tells me that...
Lemur and MJC are not on the best of terms.
Anyway, I have seen Lemur's mom and have to admit I would thoroughly enjoy giving her a massage. Just as long as the lights were out.
Phantom, sorry for what happened to you. In no way can I imagine how this could have been your fault, other than not speaking up, but I probably would have told her to give me back a grand and to get the fuck out. Oh, and I would have told her to use her "fee" to take a cab back to her place. I hate that shit. No, I have never spent that kind of money on an overnight, but if I did, and she pulled that stunt, I would make sure that EVERYBODY knew about it.
This, I guess, is a chance you take when you see someone for the first time. If this girl had any class at all, after the peck on the cheek and her lame excuse, she at least should have offered you back some of her fee. Sorry, friend.
MW
[Edited by mr. wonderful on 07-23-2001 at 07:02 PM]
Lemur and MJC are not on the best of terms.
Anyway, I have seen Lemur's mom and have to admit I would thoroughly enjoy giving her a massage. Just as long as the lights were out.
Phantom, sorry for what happened to you. In no way can I imagine how this could have been your fault, other than not speaking up, but I probably would have told her to give me back a grand and to get the fuck out. Oh, and I would have told her to use her "fee" to take a cab back to her place. I hate that shit. No, I have never spent that kind of money on an overnight, but if I did, and she pulled that stunt, I would make sure that EVERYBODY knew about it.
This, I guess, is a chance you take when you see someone for the first time. If this girl had any class at all, after the peck on the cheek and her lame excuse, she at least should have offered you back some of her fee. Sorry, friend.
MW
[Edited by mr. wonderful on 07-23-2001 at 07:02 PM]
Enough Suspense!!!
I think at this point, after many interesting comments, it might be a good time to reveal her identity. I'm extremely curious to hear whether other guys have had similar experiences with the same provider.
I've refrained from commenting since I can only dream of having 2 G's for an overnight appointment... but I do agree with previous comments that she should have proactively offered you a portion of her fee back.
If there was "something bugging her" or "personal problems", tough shit. She should have delayed the appointment until she was in a better state of mind. She was hired to do a job and she didn't do it.
SO WHO IS SHE????
I think at this point, after many interesting comments, it might be a good time to reveal her identity. I'm extremely curious to hear whether other guys have had similar experiences with the same provider.
I've refrained from commenting since I can only dream of having 2 G's for an overnight appointment... but I do agree with previous comments that she should have proactively offered you a portion of her fee back.
If there was "something bugging her" or "personal problems", tough shit. She should have delayed the appointment until she was in a better state of mind. She was hired to do a job and she didn't do it.
SO WHO IS SHE????
Prefacing my statement by stating I've never had an extended (24) hour "date":
Some things to consider:
1) Was this provider known to be the GFE type
2) Did she explain why things did not work out
3) If that time of the month, she should have postponed it or given you the choice of postponing it
4) If she was tiredand had seen her share of clients during the week prior to meting you, she should have postponed meeting you, no questions about it
5) She owes you an apology at the very least, your review alone will cost her a loss of many future $$
6) Sounds to me like this was an intentional and deliberate attempt to just fatten up her wallet
If we give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was too embarrased or felt no need to explain things to you, then she will soon realize in most cases, it's better to be truthful and bite the bullet once than deal with the rippling effects of a very bad review.
Phantom sorry you got taken but at least you/we have an outlet to prevent this from occuring again, or we'd like to think we do.
Peace Out
C
Some things to consider:
1) Was this provider known to be the GFE type
2) Did she explain why things did not work out
3) If that time of the month, she should have postponed it or given you the choice of postponing it
4) If she was tiredand had seen her share of clients during the week prior to meting you, she should have postponed meeting you, no questions about it
5) She owes you an apology at the very least, your review alone will cost her a loss of many future $$
6) Sounds to me like this was an intentional and deliberate attempt to just fatten up her wallet
If we give her the benefit of the doubt, and maybe she was too embarrased or felt no need to explain things to you, then she will soon realize in most cases, it's better to be truthful and bite the bullet once than deal with the rippling effects of a very bad review.
Phantom sorry you got taken but at least you/we have an outlet to prevent this from occuring again, or we'd like to think we do.
Peace Out
C
No lectures from me, bro....
...it's too easy to say, "Yeah, I woulda told her this, that and the other thing."
Sometimes we don't always speak up when it's needed.
I feel your pain, but don't beat yourself up over the lost money. Maybe your next one-hour encounter will be so good that it wipes out this bad memory...
...it's too easy to say, "Yeah, I woulda told her this, that and the other thing."
Sometimes we don't always speak up when it's needed.
I feel your pain, but don't beat yourself up over the lost money. Maybe your next one-hour encounter will be so good that it wipes out this bad memory...
You got hosed.
She wasn't tired enough to watch TV.
She knew what she did and she was okay with it. The girl deserves anything she gets on this board. It's easy enough to figure out, just look for the thread.
She belongs in the TBD equivalent of a bad-provider database. If she got me for an hour or two, no problemo that's what review boards are for. I am not a vindictive person but I would clearly state my displeasure whenever her name comes up forevermore.
Afterall, it's the truth.
Bad chemistry?
She can FU just fine for an hour but can't when given 24 hours? Give me a break.
This is her living. I assume that she would like to think of herself as a professional and, as a professional, you have nothing but your reputation.
She wasn't tired enough to watch TV.
She knew what she did and she was okay with it. The girl deserves anything she gets on this board. It's easy enough to figure out, just look for the thread.
She belongs in the TBD equivalent of a bad-provider database. If she got me for an hour or two, no problemo that's what review boards are for. I am not a vindictive person but I would clearly state my displeasure whenever her name comes up forevermore.
Afterall, it's the truth.
Bad chemistry?
She can FU just fine for an hour but can't when given 24 hours? Give me a break.
This is her living. I assume that she would like to think of herself as a professional and, as a professional, you have nothing but your reputation.
Did you ever have a date with her prior to this?
You know, many women feel ok doing the fucky/sucky with a guy for an hour or even two. But twenty-four hours crosses a lot of boundaries, and clearly she was not comfortable being that intimate for that long with you.
In general you should do a couple of one-hour dates and maybe a couple of four or five hour dates before trying something like this.
That said, she did rip you off. I think what happened was that in her mind she felt her personal boundaries about to be violated. So she shut down emotionally, and there's nothing you can do.
You could out her by name, but that would create a lot of bad feelings that would last forever and cause everybody on UG to start a month long flamewar. So please don't do that.
My advice: suck it up and learn an expensive lesson. Never commit to a long date with a woman with whom you haven't already established a good rapport.
And women: please don't book sessions longer than you are capable of handling. Some women enjoy the impersonal interaction of a one hour session, but get nervous and feel tied down and violated if the guy wants to get real and be personable over a long period of time. If you're an escort and in your heart you aren't capable of doing a session like this, please do everyone a favor and don't book it in the first place.
fish
You know, many women feel ok doing the fucky/sucky with a guy for an hour or even two. But twenty-four hours crosses a lot of boundaries, and clearly she was not comfortable being that intimate for that long with you.
In general you should do a couple of one-hour dates and maybe a couple of four or five hour dates before trying something like this.
That said, she did rip you off. I think what happened was that in her mind she felt her personal boundaries about to be violated. So she shut down emotionally, and there's nothing you can do.
You could out her by name, but that would create a lot of bad feelings that would last forever and cause everybody on UG to start a month long flamewar. So please don't do that.
My advice: suck it up and learn an expensive lesson. Never commit to a long date with a woman with whom you haven't already established a good rapport.
And women: please don't book sessions longer than you are capable of handling. Some women enjoy the impersonal interaction of a one hour session, but get nervous and feel tied down and violated if the guy wants to get real and be personable over a long period of time. If you're an escort and in your heart you aren't capable of doing a session like this, please do everyone a favor and don't book it in the first place.
fish
I've had this happen on much shorter dates costing much less. No chemistry. And in 1 of the cases the SP was very highly rated and my buddy had a great session with her 4 hours later. YMMV. Written off against all the other better experiences.
Lastly, $2K is not the same to everyone. If you can afford to spend it on a "date" then it probably is not a significant amount of money.
Lastly, $2K is not the same to everyone. If you can afford to spend it on a "date" then it probably is not a significant amount of money.
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