Rev of Ms. XXX or 24 hours in the Twilight Zone?

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I very recently spent 24 hours with a provider, who for the time being, I'll call Sara, which is not her real or working name. You all are familiar with the girl I saw, but I would like your thoughts and opinions based upon the facts. I do not want the name you all know her by to influence your thoughts and opinions. I will eventually reveal her real working name. For those of you who might know or guess who I'm talking about, please do not reveal her name.

And please spare me the sermons of seeing someone the first time for an extended hours date. Every single provider who I've seen for the first time for extended hours have been great experiences.

My story.

I first contacted Sara maybe about two months ago asking if she had any interest in spending a day with me at my NJ shore house. Sara got back to me very quickly expressing interest. A date was scheduled and a fee was agreed upon, $2K for 24 hours.

I picked Sara up at her place Sunday morning around 11am. We talked during our ride to my house. Upon arriving Sara told me she would love to lay out a while and catch some sun. I really didn't have a problem with this since I had planned to just sit out on the deck with her having some drinks and just getting to know each other.

I was told by other guys who had seen her that being a gentleman was a definite way to boost your mileage with her. Never missed an opportunity to hold a door, light her cigarette, get her a drink. I even cooked dishes she told me she liked.

After having dinner we laid down on the bed to watch a movie. After the movie finished she asked me if it was possible for me to give her a back rub. I'll never pass up an opportunity to give an attractive naked woman a back rub with warm massage oil. The back rub eventually turned into a front rub from the waist up. After about a hour she thanked me and went to jump in the shower. Up to this point in time everything was going along very nicely.

She must have been aware that after returning from he shower that I was interested in moving onto other more intimate acts. She returns from her shower fully clothed. Every time I tried to initiate intimate acts she jumps up and says she has something she has to do. Several times she jumps up saying that she wants to wash the dishes I used to cook dinner with even after telling her that I would do them the next morning. I say several times because after returning each time she said that there was no more hot water and wanted to wait 20 minutes or so for it to get hot again before she finished the dishes.

So finally after all this stalling on her part I eventually get her focused on doing something for me. She begins to give me a halfhearted BJ which lasted all of 20 minutes, half of which was actually a hand job. After 20 minutes she announces that she is tired and lies down. She makes no further attempts at any intimate activity

Needless to say no way in hell am I going to force her to do anything. She knows why she is there yet for some reason she has decided not to do anything for her fee. Trying not to aggravate an already bad situation, I roll over and go to sleep. Occasionally I woke up during the night to find the TV still on and her watching.

Wake up Monday morning cleanup and leave. Quiet, very cold drive home. I drive her home, where she gives me a kiss on the check and tells me that she is sorry that things did not work out the way I had planned.

So guys, what would you have done placed in this situation?

Ladies, your thoughts and opinions as to why she did what she did.
 

Slinky Bender

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Once you are in the situation, there is not an awful lot you can do. The only thing I can think that I would have done is that as soon as I realized that it was "going nowhere", I might have said "You know, this really isn't working for me. Why don't I drive you home now and we can work something out on the fee".
 

Hotpuppy

Mr.Butterworth
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Just as someone is going to give you the "sermon" whether you like it or not( not me though), I feel compelled to make one remark ( and it goes against everything I believe in regards to how I relate to escorts)- maybe being the "gentleman" that you are( and Im not suggesting in the least that you be something that you are not, or in any way abuse her) was not the way to go in this situation. Now before anyone goes crazy, please read this carefully: I am not suggesting that Phantom change his style or do anything that would frighten or bully the lady. OK. But assuming less of the server and more of the servee role may have turned a wasted day around some. I also agree with SB's common sense reply.
take care HP
 
#4
Response to Phantom

Phantom,
This is a classic story of being ripped off. I have never spent that kind of money on any provider-especially for only a 24 hour period. I would have to agree with Slinkybender that when you witnessed it was not going very well-perhaps a statement such as: "It appears that things are not going to go the way that I would have liked them to go, and I would like to take you home immediately. Additionally, we will need to discuss the fee for your services since the time was cut short and your services proved to be less then satisfactory to me."

[Edited by RoosterC74 on 07-23-2001 at 03:43 PM]
 
#5
I agree with Slinky and Rooster. . .

Although in a long date there is certainly "down time" that is well spent in the manner that you did (dinner, sunning, drinks, movie) there is an expectation of particular activities - We don't go to Julie's or JB's or visit with any provider solely for good conversation.

This lady tacitly agreed to provide a particular service and did not, you are entitled to satisfaction. Handled in the right way (as suggestedby the others) everyone walks away closer to happy than not, and there is hope for the next time.

I trust you at least had a nice dinner and enjoyed the movie!!
 
#6
Most ladies would negotiate the fee. I had a client once that was first time meet, though we had a great dinner and I felt it was gonna be a great overnight.. he was very intelligent etc but once in the bed... well let me just say that it didnt work out. I rose and dressed and negotiated the fee and left. This does happen.

You also shouldnt be working a full weeks worth of men and then go and do an overnight... thats not right for him.

I also have no clue who this lady is nor do i know phantom except for here.

I hope this helps.
candie N Mlps
xx

ps- I have never met a provider that didnt know what was the main event! mult O's

[Edited by candie on 07-23-2001 at 03:57 PM]
 
#7
Could it have been...

Hey Phantom,

Question: Did you attempt to speak with her about why she might have acted in such a quirky way?

Maybe, for some reason, she was made uncomfortable by you/ the situation.

It was your money, and a lot of it to boot (for a small-timer like me). I think your best bet might have been to try to discuss the way things were going and why. YOu might have been able to find out a) what was wrong (if indeed it was something you had control over) and b0 what could have turned things around.

I understand your frustration, because as you said, she knows why she is there...but it is ultimately your money and up to you to make sure you get the best out of it you can.

Just my thoughts (you asked for us to skip the sermons, or else I would have had a bit more to say ;) )

MJC
 
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Phantom I am just sorry that happened to you. I can imagine what that must be like. I would write a review; if someone gives you lumps well you had courage and did what you felt you had to do.
 
#9
How did you spend all that time?

You picked her up at 11 a.m., drove to the shore and then...it's dinner time? The only thing you mentioned re: events in the intervening time is "laying out". Even if you took three hours to get to your place, that still leaves a long time between then and dinner. Or on the other hand, if dinner was early, that leaves a VERY long time for play during the remainder of the evening.

At what point did you expect to receive any service? I think if I were in this situation, there would have been some initial service either in the car on the way (yes, adolescent behavior, but why not?) or shortly after the arrival, just to warm up. If this was not forthcoming, I think I would have packed it in right then. This in no way precludes being a "gentleman".

I know we all like things to "just sort-of happen", but sometimes things must be spelled out. In this scenario, sooner might very well have been better.

Just curious: did you actually pay her the 2K? If she was "sorry it didn't work out", did she give a reason?

Frankly, I have to believe there's more to this story.
 
#10
Well, if it's who I'm thinking I have had a similar experience. But the problem was it was 'that time of the month' maybe this is you answer. Either way she should have let you know what the problem was. But you should have asked too!

HH
 

Carl M

Hanging by a thread
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This happened to me recently!

To a lesser extent, I was extremely annoyed, emailed the provider 3 days later and she stated she would give me a full refund- which no one does! I opted for a free session with her which was absolutely fantastic!
 

Hotpuppy

Mr.Butterworth
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I think any escort( worth her reputation), who accepts an extended date, has to assume that the "activities" anticipated by the client will be fairly frequent( maybe we should poll on this one), perhaps like the meal metaphor people are fond of using. An extended date may include three or four meals( with appetizer, main course and dessert), and the appropriate cleanups , before meal shower, after dinner dishes :). My experiences with extended dates have gone along these lines, and I never had to "suggest" anything to her.
take care HP( waiting for George W's present in the mail)
 
#14
I agree HP, but...

Bottom line is, when it is your 2G's on the line its up to you to find out what can be done to improve the services or seek a financial arrangement.

It's not ENTIRELY the girl's fault for walking away with his money after a sub-par performance, IMO.

MJC
anxious to hear who it was

[Edited by MJC185 on 07-23-2001 at 04:27 PM]
 
#15
So...

So, MJC, protector-of-all,
if the girl shows up and provides bad service, and the guy isn't "aggressive" enuff to call her on it, all responsibility lies with him? She can just walk away, with no repercussions, completely blameless?
Wow. So, now, not only must we PAY for it, we have to BEG for it too...I need a job like that:
"Yes boss, I realize I received a paycheck this week, but I'm still not going to perform the job you contracted me to do, unless you beg on your hands and knees like a dog."
Of course, the old adage (YMMV - and I hate that) stands, but, c'mon...24 hours, 2k...so he could give her a backrub and watch TV? Cheaper to get a GF...

Lemur
 

justme

homo economicus
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Some men show they are gentlemen by making sure doors are openned, chairs are pulled, and smokes are lit. Other men do so by simply making sure a lady never has to fill her own glass.
 
#17
GRAPEVINE

had a apointment but backed out after hearing mechanical. feeling about the two dimes down the drain but maybe a bottle of wine before booking is advised.
 
#18
Re: So...

Originally posted by Lemurrush
So, MJC, protector-of-all,
if the girl shows up and provides bad service, and the guy isn't "aggressive" enuff to call her on it, all responsibility lies with him? She can just walk away, with no repercussions, completely blameless?
Wow. So, now, not only must we PAY for it, we have to BEG for it too...I need a job like that:
"Yes boss, I realize I received a paycheck this week, but I'm still not going to perform the job you contracted me to do, unless you beg on your hands and knees like a dog."
Of course, the old adage (YMMV - and I hate that) stands, but, c'mon...24 hours, 2k...so he could give her a backrub and watch TV? Cheaper to get a GF...

Lemur
Lemur, you dirty prick...

Just because you'd like your dick in my mouth, don't try to put words in my mouth.

To everyone who doesn't know he was breaking my balls, that is not what I meant by my post. I did not imply that it is a cut and dry case of the girl being blameless, as evidenced by my opinion that some kind of financial arrangement should have been sought out.

MJC

[Edited by MJC185 on 07-23-2001 at 04:36 PM]
 

Hotpuppy

Mr.Butterworth
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Re: I agree HP, but...

Originally posted by MJC185
Bottom line is, when it is your 2G's on the line its up to you to find out what can be done to improve the services or seek a financial arrangement.

Well then, I guess it comes back around to the request by Phantom, not to be given a sermon about extended dates for first time meetings. Every escort I have ever discussed overnights with has appropriately responded that a two or three hour first date was necessary- to avoid situations like the one Candie described and to assure some sort of compatability that would translate into a successful overnight. Sorry Phantom , but I think this is really central to the issue at hand.
take care HP
 
#20
Re: I agree HP, but...

Originally posted by MJC185
Bottom line is, when it is your 2G's on the line its up to you to find out what can be done to improve the services or seek a financial arrangement.

It's not the girl's fault for walking away with his money after a sub-par performance, IMO.

MJC
anxious to hear who it was

Yes, good thing I didn't misquote you ;) It almost sounded like you said, it's not her fault for taking his money and running - thanks for setting me straight...
Hell, I think most of our mom's would easily cost less than 2k just to give them a backrub and let them watch TV - on the plus side, we'd probably even get a meal out of it, to boot ;)
Just as long as we don't hold it against them when they let us down, right MJC - cuz that's entirely OUR fault
And, as far as the dick in the mouth thing - I think it's time to REALLY let everyone in on the secret as to what went on at the UG Long Island getogether in the parking lot. Sorry my schedule has been so hectic, I'll try to fill your Lemur quota soon ;)

Lemur

[Edited by Lemurrush on 07-23-2001 at 04:52 PM]
 
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