Playing BlackJack with retards
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now you're trying to shift the argument because the one you were making isn't coprrect. WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT IF SPLITTING 10's IS A GOOD PLAY OR NOT, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IF IT AFFECTS ANYONE ELSE AT THE TABLE. Or do you think poeple have the right to yell at other players for playing suboptimally even if it has no effect on them?
PS I'm not fogetting about those other cards. In fact I make the same argument above, but you REALLY can't be saying that if the guy pulls 2 tens that it effects whether the dealer is going to pull a 6 - 9 are you?
PS I'm not fogetting about those other cards. In fact I make the same argument above, but you REALLY can't be saying that if the guy pulls 2 tens that it effects whether the dealer is going to pull a 6 - 9 are you?
Yeah..my point is all relevant. If you're splitting 10s and you take get 2 more 10s which should have been the dealer cards to break, but the dealer ends up pulling a 3 to 6 card, how does that not effect the other people on the table? If I was one of the guys that had 15, 16, or 17, it's obvious I don't want to see the end guy splitting 10s. There are 224 6 to 10s cards out of 416 cards, truthfully, any player on the table would probably like to see those 10s not split. So to answer if I have the right to yell at him, yes...because I do believe it effects other people on the table.
What I'm saying is that if the guy pulls 2 10s, you've all of sudden taken away the 10s the dealer was going to get and now dealers shot at making a hand looks much better. I don't need to know % to see that something bad is going to happen next.
What I'm saying is that if the guy pulls 2 10s, you've all of sudden taken away the 10s the dealer was going to get and now dealers shot at making a hand looks much better. I don't need to know % to see that something bad is going to happen next.
First off, I don't know how often you go to casinos, but I know one thing for sure is that whenever someone split 10s, that whole shoe is all fucked up. Fuck probability...the only probability after you split 10s is you're gonna get a massive scolding from the vietnamese guys on the table increased by 89.2%.
You're gonna give me your argument again about the probabilities, blah blah blah that it doesnt hurt the other players. When you're playing a shoe and the table is hot, you don't want 1 fucking player to screw it up. That 1 extra hit he takes might be the difference when a shoe turns cold for the players. No one on the table is thinking the probabilities...everyone just knows that when the dealer is holding a 6, and the table has a bunch of small cards showing, you just fucking hope and pray to god (and this is the only time I do pray) that the dealer pulls a break card. The point from the start is not whether this end player knows probability, the point is that you split 10s against a 6 is just the most retarded move.
Fuck yeah, I bring my rabbits foot with me and every mother fucker is to be blame if I'm losing, but I don't verbally express it. I'm one of the calmer chinks and keep it to myself (most of the time).
You're gonna give me your argument again about the probabilities, blah blah blah that it doesnt hurt the other players. When you're playing a shoe and the table is hot, you don't want 1 fucking player to screw it up. That 1 extra hit he takes might be the difference when a shoe turns cold for the players. No one on the table is thinking the probabilities...everyone just knows that when the dealer is holding a 6, and the table has a bunch of small cards showing, you just fucking hope and pray to god (and this is the only time I do pray) that the dealer pulls a break card. The point from the start is not whether this end player knows probability, the point is that you split 10s against a 6 is just the most retarded move.
Fuck yeah, I bring my rabbits foot with me and every mother fucker is to be blame if I'm losing, but I don't verbally express it. I'm one of the calmer chinks and keep it to myself (most of the time).
So I have 20 red balls and 10 green balls in an urn.
I roll a die and randomly remove that number of balls from the urn.
Then I let you select a ball from the urn. What's the probability that the ball you select is green?
I tend to believe that anyone who can't answer that question (quickly) should probably stay out of casinos.
More to the point, if someone gets mad at me for fucking uo their odds when they can't answer that question, then I really don't give a shit.
I roll a die and randomly remove that number of balls from the urn.
Then I let you select a ball from the urn. What's the probability that the ball you select is green?
I tend to believe that anyone who can't answer that question (quickly) should probably stay out of casinos.
More to the point, if someone gets mad at me for fucking uo their odds when they can't answer that question, then I really don't give a shit.
then some asshole with his 3 dollar field bet, compared to my bets on the table which might be in excess of 500 bucks puts his hand out while im rolling, and it hits his hand and I seven out.
Ive often wondered if I would have kept going, but I always gamble and assume a casino is full of assholes, and they will affect me somewhere along the line, if the dice turned over to my niumber, I would have loved it.[/QUOTE]
Hey I love craps to and play nothing else. Just remember the azzhole could have stuck his hand out and you then hit your number. The dice have no memory. As you probably know it's the most fun game in the casino. Where else but the craps tables does the hooting and hollering come from?
Ive often wondered if I would have kept going, but I always gamble and assume a casino is full of assholes, and they will affect me somewhere along the line, if the dice turned over to my niumber, I would have loved it.[/QUOTE]
Hey I love craps to and play nothing else. Just remember the azzhole could have stuck his hand out and you then hit your number. The dice have no memory. As you probably know it's the most fun game in the casino. Where else but the craps tables does the hooting and hollering come from?
Ozzy--the throw counts if it hits foreign objects as long as the dice remain on the table and land on the felt. For many unfortunate dealers and players alike, even when some rookie throws with all his might and the dice may kick up and hit you in the face (or more dangerously, the eye), it still is valid.
the throw counts even if one or both die don't hit the back wall, but repeated throws like that garner a warning, or someone such as I screaming, "make it hit the back wall!" (Being a "don't" player, I haven't picked up the dice in 20yrs, but one time I threw and one die slipped out on my throw and went 1/2inch while the other went the length of the table. I thought the short die was invalid, and god help me to this day that my arm wasn't broken when I went to reach for the die that was short...!!)
Finally, "Parachute" rolls are prohibited from going higher then the eyes of the dealers and esp. the stick b/c his job is to watch the dice from shooters hand to flight in air. Again--repeated stratosphere rolls are met with a stern warning.
Going back to the Blackjack thread, I'm with Beadman in his comment. Slinky don't crucify me, but doesn't the play of the anchor directly affect everyone? I'm still under the belief that the anchor has to be the guy who cleans up for everyone who makes a bad play, as well as take that hit on a 13 when the dealer has a 12 and no one else has taken a hit. I know, I know--that probably has nothing to do with anything except anectdotal blackjack, but I've always prayed that the anchor knows what he's doing--or at least, playing by the book to preserve the table "odds" in favor of the player.
In regards to "what would I do"--usually, if i see someone splitting 10s, or something crazy CONSISTENTLY, I leave the table. Interestingly, in Vegas, it's done a LOT, ie split 10s, and no one ever says anything. I was stunned.
And on the other hand, I've sat anchor and the guy next to me did everything "against" the book, while I played by the book. He got Blackjacks galore, and never hit his 15 or 16 against a dealer 8--and continued to win. I just sat and cried.
So I guess slinky is right!
the throw counts even if one or both die don't hit the back wall, but repeated throws like that garner a warning, or someone such as I screaming, "make it hit the back wall!" (Being a "don't" player, I haven't picked up the dice in 20yrs, but one time I threw and one die slipped out on my throw and went 1/2inch while the other went the length of the table. I thought the short die was invalid, and god help me to this day that my arm wasn't broken when I went to reach for the die that was short...!!)
Finally, "Parachute" rolls are prohibited from going higher then the eyes of the dealers and esp. the stick b/c his job is to watch the dice from shooters hand to flight in air. Again--repeated stratosphere rolls are met with a stern warning.
Going back to the Blackjack thread, I'm with Beadman in his comment. Slinky don't crucify me, but doesn't the play of the anchor directly affect everyone? I'm still under the belief that the anchor has to be the guy who cleans up for everyone who makes a bad play, as well as take that hit on a 13 when the dealer has a 12 and no one else has taken a hit. I know, I know--that probably has nothing to do with anything except anectdotal blackjack, but I've always prayed that the anchor knows what he's doing--or at least, playing by the book to preserve the table "odds" in favor of the player.
In regards to "what would I do"--usually, if i see someone splitting 10s, or something crazy CONSISTENTLY, I leave the table. Interestingly, in Vegas, it's done a LOT, ie split 10s, and no one ever says anything. I was stunned.
And on the other hand, I've sat anchor and the guy next to me did everything "against" the book, while I played by the book. He got Blackjacks galore, and never hit his 15 or 16 against a dealer 8--and continued to win. I just sat and cried.
So I guess slinky is right!
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