you're right travis, the outcome only effects the other player's heads... the point I've been trying to make that slinky don't seem to get is that it's not whether the dealer breaks or not after the split, it's that the moment the guy split his 10s, everyone on the table is going to want to kill him. It might calm them a bit if the dealer broke, but it's a immediate sign that it's time to get up. I don't know anyone on the table that wouldn't have sort of distorted reaction when the guy splits 10s. Asians are probably the most angriest people when they are gambling (even when they're winning).