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I have a theory. Hear it out..
So I checked this place out, as I'm sure some percentage of you guys did too after reading about Genius' reviews and positive reports here. Right off the bat there were red flags. There was a male manning the desk, the price was $25 for HH (where you pay at the end btw. Unheard of), 2 female customers getting their feet massaged, and every woman working here was old and dumpy. I saw 4 of them.
Fast forwarding, I ended up getting a massage with a horrible HE with zero touching allowed (She was gross, i still feel ashamed)..but it dawned on me as there was 2 other guys there at the same time as I was: This place is probably a ploy that Genius used to send the majority of trollers that aren't true enthusiasts, never comment here and only read other people's reviews. Think about it. Genius writes a positive review, swarms of mongers show up to the place, the place get shuts down, everyone loses..including Genius. What's his incentive?
I'm not saying I'm any better than the rest of you. I don't post often, and I really don't do this type of thing so much anymore either. But on the flip side (no pun intended) , I've been around the block in the game and this place was NOT the AMP that it was painted to be. Seemed like a place to send the majority of us, while the good places are somewhat kept UTR for only the "inner circle mongers". I ended going to a different place after this disappointment a few days later. This place doesn't advertise on BP (luckily i had the number) and there hasn't been a review on this place in over 2 years. Coincidence? ..well you won't find me exposing it.
Just something to think about...
So I checked this place out, as I'm sure some percentage of you guys did too after reading about Genius' reviews and positive reports here. Right off the bat there were red flags. There was a male manning the desk, the price was $25 for HH (where you pay at the end btw. Unheard of), 2 female customers getting their feet massaged, and every woman working here was old and dumpy. I saw 4 of them.
Fast forwarding, I ended up getting a massage with a horrible HE with zero touching allowed (She was gross, i still feel ashamed)..but it dawned on me as there was 2 other guys there at the same time as I was: This place is probably a ploy that Genius used to send the majority of trollers that aren't true enthusiasts, never comment here and only read other people's reviews. Think about it. Genius writes a positive review, swarms of mongers show up to the place, the place get shuts down, everyone loses..including Genius. What's his incentive?
I'm not saying I'm any better than the rest of you. I don't post often, and I really don't do this type of thing so much anymore either. But on the flip side (no pun intended) , I've been around the block in the game and this place was NOT the AMP that it was painted to be. Seemed like a place to send the majority of us, while the good places are somewhat kept UTR for only the "inner circle mongers". I ended going to a different place after this disappointment a few days later. This place doesn't advertise on BP (luckily i had the number) and there hasn't been a review on this place in over 2 years. Coincidence? ..well you won't find me exposing it.
Just something to think about...
inner circle mongers!
I applaud you for two things:
-- Your inventiveness and imagination
-- The fact that you posted the experience rather than continuing to lurk
Although I think the only reason you posted was because you feel duped.
Anyway, your comment that I quoted above about good places being kept UTR for only "inner circle mongers" is not applicable on UG because there is no PM or back-channeling. If a monger decides to not post about a good place or good provider, it is for the purpose of keeping it to themselves. They cannot share with "inner circle mongers."
Rather than Genius being as devious as you say, it's probably a combination of these possibilities:
-- He enjoys the chase for extras in places that are promoted as being legit.
-- He happens to have some game and got more than the normal monger is brazen enough to attempt getting.
-- His standards for good-looking providers are below yours.
-- It may not matter to him how hot the girl is.
For me, it very much matters that the girl be attractive otherwise there's a good chance I won't even get wood.
I haven't tried this place yet and most likely will never try it.
I applaud you for two things:
-- Your inventiveness and imagination
-- The fact that you posted the experience rather than continuing to lurk
Although I think the only reason you posted was because you feel duped.
Anyway, your comment that I quoted above about good places being kept UTR for only "inner circle mongers" is not applicable on UG because there is no PM or back-channeling. If a monger decides to not post about a good place or good provider, it is for the purpose of keeping it to themselves. They cannot share with "inner circle mongers."
Rather than Genius being as devious as you say, it's probably a combination of these possibilities:
-- He enjoys the chase for extras in places that are promoted as being legit.
-- He happens to have some game and got more than the normal monger is brazen enough to attempt getting.
-- His standards for good-looking providers are below yours.
-- It may not matter to him how hot the girl is.
For me, it very much matters that the girl be attractive otherwise there's a good chance I won't even get wood.
I haven't tried this place yet and most likely will never try it.
Genius has already said in other threads that he enjoys the chase and looks for it/forward to it.
When it comes down to it the things that will help you is having some type of game, being aggressive but not overly aggressive, and respecting their boundaries. I've gotten a reviewed AMP provider to do things she clearly doesn't do with just anyone but I've seen her a bunch of times and she feels safe with me.
I will give this place a shot on Monday for the simple fact I need a real massage (messed up my back today) and for $35/hr you can't beat that. If I get HE that's a bonus, if not oh well just means I spend less money and found an affordable legit place.
When it comes down to it the things that will help you is having some type of game, being aggressive but not overly aggressive, and respecting their boundaries. I've gotten a reviewed AMP provider to do things she clearly doesn't do with just anyone but I've seen her a bunch of times and she feels safe with me.
I will give this place a shot on Monday for the simple fact I need a real massage (messed up my back today) and for $35/hr you can't beat that. If I get HE that's a bonus, if not oh well just means I spend less money and found an affordable legit place.
Been there 20 times in past year - saw a guy there once the 1st time I went.
Standard practice at so called "legit" places.: As I posted prior I would see that sometimes. I have seen that- I would just leave if the girl I wanted was not there or would stay if I just wanted a legit massage. There are decent ones there (staff changes).
You mean people like you who have posted a grand total of 6 posts prior to this one in 5 years?
Read my prior posts - it is exactly as it was "painted" to be.
All I can say is this such a stupid statement I don't even know how to answer it
Yup, as your words in your post of being a troller who never comments here...and only read other people's reviews at least you are consistent. Oh wait - you didn't say that you were in that category - even though 6 times in 5 years is close to zero.
Standard practice at so called "legit" places.: As I posted prior I would see that sometimes. I have seen that- I would just leave if the girl I wanted was not there or would stay if I just wanted a legit massage. There are decent ones there (staff changes).
You mean people like you who have posted a grand total of 6 posts prior to this one in 5 years?
Read my prior posts - it is exactly as it was "painted" to be.
All I can say is this such a stupid statement I don't even know how to answer it
Yup, as your words in your post of being a troller who never comments here...and only read other people's reviews at least you are consistent. Oh wait - you didn't say that you were in that category - even though 6 times in 5 years is close to zero.
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Agreed, but if I don't get anything out of it I will beat myself up for wasting that money (Yet for some reason I have zero problems losing money at casinos lol). However, given the fact my back is pretty messed up I'll give this place a shot because worst case scenario I come out with less back pain and relaxed, best case scenario I bust a nut, have less back pain and feel relaxed. Another thing that makes me less likely to go to these places is because I have a few AMP workers who actually give above average to great massages with pretty good HE that I see on the reg, and in my travels I have found straying from them has not been beneficial to me, yet like an addict I keep doing it.
The way I figure it this time is if I come out of there with no release now I'm just worked up and can go take it out on some cheap escort for 60-80.
The way I figure it this time is if I come out of there with no release now I'm just worked up and can go take it out on some cheap escort for 60-80.
Swing and a miss on extras.
Got there asked if Coco was working was told no, almost just dipped at that point but figured id see it through. They stuck me in the first booth which was the first "ughh" of the visit. I get bare assed and lay on the table, girl comes in drapes towel over me and starts massage. Apparently I got the new girl, as mamasan came in halfway through and corrected her on something (felt fine to me). At this point I pretty much knew extras werent gonna happen. I did brush the back of my hand against her inner thigh a few times with no objection so I deff have vibes extras can be had here, however I feel like that first room maybe the kiss of death as mamsan sits right outside it. Girl I had was late 30's earlier 40's but had a very cute vibe about her; the way shr was doing the massage felt very AMPish. Her english was minimal at best, couldnt even make out her name.
With that being said it was a solid massage. 35hr 10tip.
Got there asked if Coco was working was told no, almost just dipped at that point but figured id see it through. They stuck me in the first booth which was the first "ughh" of the visit. I get bare assed and lay on the table, girl comes in drapes towel over me and starts massage. Apparently I got the new girl, as mamasan came in halfway through and corrected her on something (felt fine to me). At this point I pretty much knew extras werent gonna happen. I did brush the back of my hand against her inner thigh a few times with no objection so I deff have vibes extras can be had here, however I feel like that first room maybe the kiss of death as mamsan sits right outside it. Girl I had was late 30's earlier 40's but had a very cute vibe about her; the way shr was doing the massage felt very AMPish. Her english was minimal at best, couldnt even make out her name.
With that being said it was a solid massage. 35hr 10tip.
I have been here twice, the most recent being 2 weeks ago. I could not get any Mileage apart from a legit massage, however, I applaud Genius who is a master I wish I can emulate. I have read his posts over the years and I thank him for his contributions. He gets water from stones but he shares his wisdom and we can only listen and learn.
IDK I think extras are on the menu, i'm not giving up on this place yet. However, I think the conditions have to be great to perfect AND you have to get a chick who is willing to play ball. Place was a bit busy when I went and like I said I got the new girl who didnt have a problem with me brushing the inside of her thighs. I think at some of these "legit" places there are former AMP workers who are tired of the heat, but will do a little extra for some more $$ since they are not getting nearly the same tips they'd get at AMPs.
Absolutely agree. I refuse the first room as well. I also have no problem walking right out if the conditions aren't right. I am not wasting any more money and not getting what I expect. I have walked out several times when they pulled the ol hot chick walks you to the room while 20 years older hag comes in for service. No way...