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Slinky Bender

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#22
There's no "discipline", "sadism" or "masochism", only bondage. So it's 3/4 not BDSM. And there's a lot more to "being a sub" than getting tied up.
 

Slinky Bender

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#24
And what percentage of subs are in a realtionship with a master where there is no physical/corproal punishment?

But more to this point, isn't that a point which proves my point?
 

Waterclone

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#25
But for that, i think there's got to be HUGE trust factor. So, it's hard to do by having a "session" with someone you're hiring for a one shot deal.
I don't know about that. Maybe I am just a trusting guy, and maybe it's because I am very picky about the girls that I see, but most of the professional women that I have seen, I would trust in a bondage scenario.

Of course, I don't usually go for one shot deals. I seek out women that I feel like I know, either through their posts, or their reviews. But even agency one-time girls that I have seen, if it had come up, I would have trusted them to tie me up.
 
#27
I don't know about that. Maybe I am just a trusting guy, and maybe it's because I am very picky about the girls that I see, but most of the professional women that I have seen, I would trust in a bondage scenario.
i can see how the context (you paying her for a session) would make it feel - and in fact BE - safe. i have had several sessions when the client hired a domme to domme me, and i wasn't worried in the least that i was unsafe. if the lady is, in fact, a professional, she should be pretty sophisticated about being both respectful of limits as well as challenging them safely.

i can say the only bad experience i had in one of these sessions was with a reasonably well-known escort who claimed to also enjoy being a dominatrix. she had no idea what she was doing, and i suspect the client was as bored as i was...speaking of bondage, about mid-session, and with a lot of prompting, she had me tied face-down on the bed...her phone rang, she got up, answered it, and scheduled another session while the client and i waited. and, no, it wasn't some dominatrix mind game -- just run-of-the-mill rudeness.
 
#28
However, some women just get more excited feeling like they have no control. It's actually a very relaxing feeling because you don't have to do anything. And even if you want to do something, you can't...so you might as well just sit back and enjoy the ride.
Nicely put
 
#29
i can say the only bad experience i had in one of these sessions was with a reasonably well-known escort who claimed to also enjoy being a dominatrix. she had no idea what she was doing, and i suspect the client was as bored as i was...speaking of bondage, about mid-session, and with a lot of prompting, she had me tied face-down on the bed...her phone rang, she got up, answered it, and scheduled another session while the client and i waited. and, no, it wasn't some dominatrix mind game -- just run-of-the-mill rudeness.
I can't imagine who you are talking about ... or maybe I can ...
 
#31
one more thought about why the trust factor might be a little easier with professional ladies;

one of the dommes i played with was, by far, my favorite...i was a little enamored of her...unfortunately, she seems to have left town, if not the business. anyways, this lady was hot, creative, challenging, technically skilled with bondage and toys, alert to limits, and a complete natural with the verbal element of the sessions. the client hired her several times, which was great for me :)

the last time i saw her, we took a cab together after the session, and i asked her how she got into the business. i was very surprised when she explained that she wasn't dominant at all - a friend of hers was in the business and had encouraged her to come in for some extra income. for her, as a pro domme, the sessions were a theater - a vivid theater - to please the client. (she was very dominant with him, too, which was cute for me to see!)

my point is that - unlike the little evil person in me - a professional is probably not looking to make you uncomfortable. she is probably aiming to please you with the level of pain (if any) you desire, and will be alert to your responses as activities unfold. and, of course, she will play with a safeword. there is plenty of good information out there, in reviews and word of mouth, about who does all this well...and who doesn't. all told, for anyone who wants to experiment with this stuff, i think it's a pretty safe activity.

i do have to say...being a dominatrix looks like exhausting work, both physically and mentally. i couldn't do it - at least not well!
 

Slinky Bender

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#32
a) my point is that - unlike the little evil person in me - a professional is probably not looking to make you uncomfortable. she is probably aiming to please you with the level of pain (if any) you desire, and will be alert to your responses as activities unfold. and, of course, she will play with a safeword. there is plenty of good information out there, in reviews and word of mouth, about who does all this well...and who doesn't. all told, for anyone who wants to experiment with this stuff, i think it's a pretty safe activity.

b) i do have to say...being a dominatrix looks like exhausting work, both physically and mentally. i couldn't do it - at least not well!
a) And that is exactly why I'm not comfortable in sub-like situation which are not with paid dommes (and I wouldn't waste my money on a pro-domme, because since I'm not into it, it wouldn't be worth the expenditure). They aren't there to make me comfortable, they are there for their own fun. And if they are domme, their own fun would certainly go beyond the limits of my fun, because those limits are at a very low level. I'm having a hard time seeing why people aren't getting that point.

b) insert my standard speach about working girls going to be dommes because "it's easier and you don't have to have sex".
 
#33
a) And that is exactlyI'm having a hard time seeing why people aren't getting that point.
well, geez, if you reread what you just wrote, even you might have difficulty understanding it! regardless, my post about my favorite domme was really written for anyone who might be considering experimentation with bondage - not as a comment to you, per se.

speaking of which, when are you going to answer my e*mail?
 
#35
Had a girlfriend who loved to be tied to the bed and tickled until she begged for mercy. She did the same to me and it was a mindblowing feeling to be so helplessly out of control......altho it wasn't a particularly sexual feeling.

The CIA ought to concern tickling as a replacement for waterboarding.
 
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#39
one more thought about why the trust factor might be a little easier with professional ladies;

one of the dommes i played with was, by far, my favorite...i was a little enamored of her...unfortunately, she seems to have left town, if not the business. anyways, this lady was hot, creative, challenging, technically skilled with bondage and toys, alert to limits, and a complete natural with the verbal element of the sessions. the client hired her several times, which was great for me :)

the last time i saw her, we took a cab together after the session, and i asked her how she got into the business. i was very surprised when she explained that she wasn't dominant at all - a friend of hers was in the business and had encouraged her to come in for some extra income. for her, as a pro domme, the sessions were a theater - a vivid theater - to please the client. (she was very dominant with him, too, which was cute for me to see!)

my point is that - unlike the little evil person in me - a professional is probably not looking to make you uncomfortable. she is probably aiming to please you with the level of pain (if any) you desire, and will be alert to your responses as activities unfold. and, of course, she will play with a safeword. there is plenty of good information out there, in reviews and word of mouth, about who does all this well...and who doesn't. all told, for anyone who wants to experiment with this stuff, i think it's a pretty safe activity.

i do have to say...being a dominatrix looks like exhausting work, both physically and mentally. i couldn't do it - at least not well!
While I don't doubt that your friend said this, I think it's a mistake to make this generalization. A domme I know told me that she always had a dominant, sadistic personality. Back in school, she liked picking physical fights with boys and beating them up. When she became sexually active, she found that she was turned on by being the dominant sexual partner. She said that the problem was finding people to play with, which is what led her to become a pro domme.

If you read the blogs and talk with people who are really into it, there is definitely a BDSM "lifestyle" and there are people for whom this isn't a job but an orientation. They get a thrill out of it. And they don't necessarily enjoy what we might think of as "normal" heterosexual sexual activities.

Getting back to bondage, it's not just about being "helpless" (although, it can be, if that's your scene). It's part of the whole submission routine. The helplessness allows the domme to control you and to force you to submit to her desires, not yours.

There's also the whole art of Japanese bondage techniques, which can be quite intricate and beautiful. The purpose, in part, is to objectify you while putting you completely at the mercy of the mistress.

BTW, I'm really not personally into this scene. But I became interested in it and did a lot of research on the Web. There's a lot of decent info out there, if you are interested. It's not hard to find.
 
#40
While I don't doubt that your friend said this, I think it's a mistake to make this generalization. A domme I know told me that she always had a dominant, sadistic personality.
yeah, i see my point wasn't clear at all. i didn't mean to say that all pro-dommes are not dominant - i mean to say that pro dommes (real professionals) do their sessions to please the client...not to get herself off. the two things don't have to be mutually exclusive, of course! but that is why a pro is probably safe to experiment with; even if she is herself a sadist in her personal life - or not dominant at all - she knows she is there to please you with a session you will enjoy.
 
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