A rant...or why do you guys undermine the earning potential of UG

[MikitheMilf]

looks are too subjective to rate

Again... On *** there is no relative rating system. They rate on an equal scale... Miki a 7 (I'm going by the numbers she gave me... I didn't check myself) and they rate Gizele from a 5 to a 9 with mostly 8's. But we've been thru this rating thing before so it's a dead horse.

The real point I was making is that on the *** "mesg board" the ass kissing fluffballers over there don't make the distinctions we're making now so as to not hurt anyone’s feelings. So anyone who happens apon that board without the knowledge of who these girls are or without the use of pictures to judge for themselves... they would be thinking Gizele and Miki are somewhat equal in looks, and that's just not the case.

But if those same people happen apon UG, they would find that guys here DO make these distinctions between the girls and they'd know there's a vast difference between the two..... And that's why women like Miki prefer the way things are over there rather than here. Over there they're on somewhat equal footing and over here they get pushed off a cliff and exposed.... so to speak.

Now in all fairness to Miki... as Bender pointed out... she's not deceiving anyone by using fake or obscured pictures. So it's not about her being dishonest... it's about the posters on *** who are being deceiving and dishonest. Here on UG as much as I have to say about the dopes who post here….. they’re way more honest (blatantly so) and the truth always comes out and unfortunately sometimes the truth hurts.


Now personally.. if I had to put numbers to the girls.... and I'll assume Gizele is an 8 (though I think she's more like a 9+), but sticking to that 8..... Miki would have to be a 4 or 5 tops. Now I might sound like a prick for giving Miki a 4.... But if I made her anything higher than that, where would I rate most of Vals girls, Blonde Kelly, Felicia, Victoria25 or any of the other advertisers on UG, who obviously are all someplace between Miki and Gizele on the 1-10 scale.

which is why everyones looks vary in scoring...the best way to judge is an honest pic..of course most girls retouch their photos but it is not inconcievable that one guy can find me really hot and you think I'm a 4....not everyone has your tastebuds...there are people who find me very sexy,i still turn heads on the street sometimes,and yes,you are a prick for using me as barometer to measure your displeasure with a system you dont like. To some guys service is more important than looks,to some guys honesty is attractive...i know that as a provider i put myself out there for judgement but frankly all this discussion is starting to affect me ..i woke up really depressed this morning....thick skin is still skin amd mine feels a little thinner today so please(at the risk of opening myself to more derision)stop already!!!

 

[MikitheMilf]

OMG i made gold!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Ozzy]

which is why everyones looks vary in scoring...the best way to judge is an honest pic..of course most girls retouch their photos but it is not inconcievable that one guy can find me really hot and you think I'm a 4....not everyone has your tastebuds...there are people who find me very sexy,i still turn heads on the street sometimes,and yes,you are a prick for using me as barometer to measure your displeasure with a system you dont like. To some guys service is more important than looks,to some guys honesty is attractive...i know that as a provider i put myself out there for judgement but frankly all this discussion is starting to affect me ..i woke up really depressed this morning....thick skin is still skin amd mine feels a little thinner today so please(at the risk of opening myself to more derision)stop already!!!

Miki... YOU made yourself the barometer by telling me that you get 6's, 7's and 8's on ***. You made no mention that those ratings applied only to over 40 year olds.... Or I'd never have compared you to a 25 year old with similar ratings. And btw.... I just looked... Gizele gets a better average*
service rating than you do.

Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't say you're a 7 and then call me a prick for pointing out that your not by showing what an 8 looks like and all the women who fall in between. And you can't get Bender to change the way this board operates because you don't like the fact I called you a 4. And frankly... you and the others bitching is working cause if I was HONEST I'd not even have given you that, considering all the girls of various levels of attractiveness who rate between yourself and Gizele. Sorry but whatever G is on a 1-10 scale.... you're at least 5 maybe 6 pts lower... And that's no slight... did you ever see how fucking hot she is? Even Stevie fucking Wonder could tell that just by feeling you both up.

I'm trying to be rational and honest... but you want me to lie, blow smoke up your ass and say you're something you're not. The reason you think you're hot is because of all those liars on *** who do blow smoke up you ass. There's HOT and there's NOT... it's that simple. Gizele is HOT and you are NOT. Maybe you were a piece of ass during the Nixon administration.... But not anymore... Sorry. Come back in 20 or 30 years and if we're still here I'll be saying the same about Gizele.... although I've seen pics of her mom and granny (2 pieces of ass)... so it might take a little more than 30 in her case (there be some great genes in that family).

I agreed that what Vermeer did to you was wrong and over the top. He haunted you much the same as Mopar/3rd rail does to me.... And Bender it seems is putting a stop to that stuff (note his new rule). But to call me a prick or bitch to Bender that my saying your a 2 or a 3 is going to drive your advertising dollar away from UG is so fucking wrong it's not worth the effort to explain it to you. I went thru this with Kimmie and others and I'm not going to be the bad guy again cause I'm being honest. If you don't like it here (bender being my friend or not).... take your banner and $350 dollars and go over to *** with the rest of the insecure ho's and posters.

 

[Ozzy]

*.... I added up the total of Gizeles "service" ratings from her 23 reviews and divided it by 23 and came up with 8.9 comparred to your seven pages of reviews which averaged out to an 8.2.

So much for better service from the over 40 year old.

 

[alana]

i think that policy would be fair. women who want to post up with their working names here must be members to post. at 20 bucks a month that would be a steal. now that craigslist staff is on the 'delete every other ****'s post program' you might get some bites.

 

[Normus Johnson]

You still have your great ass shot showing up on there though don't you?!
What better advertising then that.

Unless she has come down with the dreaded Asian "Zachary Disease' (Oh, you got Zachary Disease, your face look Zachary like your ass!) We won't be able to find her. How about it Alana, just a small clue, so we can check you out?

 

[MikitheMilf]

you called yourslf a prick

Miki... YOU made yourself the barometer by telling me that you get 6's, 7's and 8's on ***. You made no mention that those ratings applied only to over 40 year olds.... Or I'd never have compared you to a 25 year old with similar ratings. And btw.... I just looked... Gizele gets a better average*
service rating than you do.

Look, you can't have it both ways. You can't say you're a 7 and then call me a prick for pointing out that your not by showing what an 8 looks like and all the women who fall in between. And you can't get Bender to change the way this board operates because you don't like the fact I called you a 4. And frankly... you and the others bitching is working cause if I was HONEST I'd not even have given you that, considering all the girls of various levels of attractiveness who rate between yourself and Gizele. Sorry but whatever G is on a 1-10 scale.... you're at least 5 maybe 6 pts lower... And that's no slight... did you ever see how fucking hot she is? Even Stevie fucking Wonder could tell that just by feeling you both up.

I'm trying to be rational and honest... but you want me to lie, blow smoke up your ass and say you're something you're not. The reason you think you're hot is because of all those liars on *** who do blow smoke up you ass. There's HOT and there's NOT... it's that simple. Gizele is HOT and you are NOT. Maybe you were a piece of ass during the Nixon administration.... But not anymore... Sorry. Come back in 20 or 30 years and if we're still here I'll be saying the same about Gizele.... although I've seen pics of her mom and granny (2 pieces of ass)... so it might take a little more than 30 in her case (there be some great genes in that family).

I agreed that what Vermeer did to you was wrong and over the top. He haunted you much the same as Mopar/3rd rail does to me.... And Bender it seems is putting a stop to that stuff (note his new rule). But to call me a prick or bitch to Bender that my saying your a 2 or a 3 is going to drive your advertising dollar away from UG is so fucking wrong it's not worth the effort to explain it to you. I went thru this with Kimmie and others and I'm not going to be the bad guy again cause I'm being honest. If you don't like it here (bender being my friend or not).... take your banner and $350 dollars and go over to *** with the rest of the insecure ho's and posters.

i wasnt talking to slinky i was talking to you....i never fuckin said i was a piece of ass...and 23 reviews do not compare to 70...youre a shill just like those asses on ***..im here im old get over it..and your opinion is meaningless to me,i dont do fat losers who live at home with their mommies...slinkys got my $$$$$$$$,vermeer didnt drive my away and neither will you

 

[Ozzy]

So exactly how many reviews is it that makes them official?

Cause there's some Belle de Jour and Julies girls that are in the hundreds... so that should make your paltry 70 invalid I guess.


Add another to the dope list here. Yes, advertisers count.


PS... You really must stop reading the bull shit on ***. I don't live with mommy, you've also fucked LOTS of fat losers cause they're the only ones who'd see you. And Vermeer isn't fit to wipe my ass. You made the wrong person your enemy... just ask Julie.

 

[Ozzy]

PPS...

You absolutely have been talking to Slinky and complaining very much about your treatment here... this thread YOU started is just an example of that and what you're trying to do.

And if you think for one second we believe that you know every one of those 70 reviewers (except the 3 fakes who I guess wrote bad reviews)... you're fucking more nuts than I thought.

And stop sending *****s to those losers on *** telling them that certain people (who are actually popular, well liked and friends of mine) are coming to your dumb get togethers when they're not.... cause they wouldn't be caught dead in the same room as you.

 

[Tony Pepperoni]

If you can't get yourself a 10, the next best thing is to bang five 2's.

 

[Casper]

If you can't get yourself a 10, the next best thing is to bang five 2's.

And attack the poster who's trying to edumacated some of us.

 

[jras]

We all know there's no such thing as an objective whore score. These numbers don't mean shit. Fuck it if you like it.

 

[beadman]

I use *** for one thing to verify and cross reference that she is a whore. Only way to really rate her is to see her.

 

[Tony Pepperoni]

And attack the poster who's trying to edumacated some of us.

What? I wasn't attacking anybody.

 

[April]

WOW! You guys still talking about this?? I'm tired of telling people about my advertising experience on UG. I'd rather just let them all think it sucks and gets you no business. Ya never know, I might need this venue again someday and I don't like to share!

I will say this. When I first found UG my girls were 150 per hour, I spent 10K per month on advertising between print ads and on line ads. 5 years later my rates were 400 and my advertising for quite awhile was soley UG....$300 per month. Did the boys bitch and complain about the rates? Sure they did! Thing is the "bottom feeders" were the ones that usually made the most noise and usually for no reason. My phone still rang and I dealt only with clients willing to pay what the rates were.

I think alot of men here weather they pay big bucks or not will make a decision on seeing a provider on the way she can keep her neck above water on this board as well as the way she responds to attacks.

Funny thing but I have not had an ad up or my number for sometime, yet when I make a post my phone STILL rings! (one of these days I'll get around to changing it)

RE: *** , all you have to do is put a reciprical link on your website to be listed in their escort mall. Aside from that there is no "open" advertising.

 

[Slinky Bender]

RE: *** , all you have to do is put a reciprical link on your website to be listed in their escort mall. Aside from that there is no "open" advertising.

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm.. then I wonder what alana was talking about with these "payments to ***"??????

I guess we'll never know.

 

[MikitheMilf]

I wasnt trying to make an enemy ...

So exactly how many reviews is it that makes them official?

Cause there's some Belle de Jour and Julies girls that are in the hundreds... so that should make your paltry 70 invalid I guess.


Add another to the dope list here. Yes, advertisers count.


PS... You really must stop reading the bull shit on ***. I don't live with mommy, you've also fucked LOTS of fat losers cause they're the only ones who'd see you. And Vermeer isn't fit to wipe my ass. You made the wrong person your enemy... just ask Julie.[/QUOTE

and im sorry for what i said...you are just relentless and i was over sensitive...i have talked to Slinky about vermeer...i have had a really hard time with him...i am very thick skinned or I would have left this board a long time ago.I am one of the most honest hookers around..i dont fudge my pics,i tell my real age,and i deliver what i promise...i never said i was beautiful nor do i think that...i am averagely attractive for a 48 y/o with 4 kids and scarred from a life threatening accident, my teeth are new my hair is dyed and i have spider veins and some cellulite...you can see my size in my pics..i also have a great attitude,love sex and am skilled and somewhat freaky in bed...for some reason you keep insisting on using me to point out a failed system on ***...its not a good system which is why i come here...i do not get much business from UG or *** for that matter,most of my business comes from eros where i advertise in the mature category, those guys are my demographics...
I wanted to help slinky out by trying to get some of my collegues to advertise,thats what this thread is about ...its not about me and i have said it many times...i dont care what people say but today was a bad day for me all around and i am truly sorry that i came out here and posted what i did...i guess to many i am a 4 and thats fine...giselle is gorgeous,no doubt way out of my league i am not competing with her, i am not competing with anyone..i have my following make a good living and am happy with what i have...again i am not looking to make enemies with anyone and i am not out here just to troll for business..i believe in UG and i support it..whoever wishes to see me will see me and the ones who dont wont...i cant sway anyones decisions by posting people know me here and theyve heard the bad and the good...i truly hope you will accept my sincerest apologies...

 

[Casper]

What? I wasn't attacking anybody.

Sorry wasn't talking about you just using your quote.

 

[Wandering Bull]

Amazing how far from the original question this has gone. Genuine question...took about 6 posts until it transcended into the usual bashing.

This can be an interesting place...unfortunately.

 

[SgtHulka]

I got an idea, how about everyone stops bitching and whining before there is no more utopiaguide for some of us to enjoy?