Review: Passion of the Christ
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Originally posted by wsb
Nope, I don't disagree with AE's statement generally, although I don't think the majority of Europeans view Israel as "the greatest evil in the world today". They would reserve that title for Dubya.
Nope, I don't disagree with AE's statement generally, although I don't think the majority of Europeans view Israel as "the greatest evil in the world today". They would reserve that title for Dubya.
The international left really needs to re-examine itself vis-a-vis America. (IMO this is the even more serious issue than their attitude to Israel)
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Originally posted by wsb
Everything you've stated makes a great deal of sense, however, relocating the Jewish people to a location that was already occupied by another group of people [that had nothing to do with the Holocaust] was clearly not an equitable solution.
--wsb
Everything you've stated makes a great deal of sense, however, relocating the Jewish people to a location that was already occupied by another group of people [that had nothing to do with the Holocaust] was clearly not an equitable solution.
--wsb
But there wasn't an equitable solution on the table in 1948. And the resulting mess created hundreds of thousands of refugees on both sides, Jews fleeing Arab countries to Israel, and Arabs fleeing Israel to the surrounding states. Both got held hostage to a certain extent. The Israelis got the fun job of being the permanent western military partner of Britian and France (and later America) in a hostile region. But at least they got to build a nation. The Palestinians who went the other way got held as permanent refugees by the Arab countries (and the U.N.) never to be granted citizenship by anyone and used as four generations of political pawns against the west.
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Originally posted by alterego
Of course it wasn't.
But there wasn't an equitable solution on the table in 1948. And the resulting mess created hundreds of thousands of refugees on both sides, Jews fleeing Arab countries to Israel, and Arabs fleeing Israel to the surrounding states. Both got held hostage to a certain extent. The Israelis got the fun job of being the permanent western military partner of Britian and France (and later America) in a hostile region. But at least they got to build a nation. The Palestinians who went the other way got held as permanent refugees by the Arab countries (and the U.N.) never to be granted citizenship by anyone and used as four generations of political pawns against the west.
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Of course it wasn't.
But there wasn't an equitable solution on the table in 1948. And the resulting mess created hundreds of thousands of refugees on both sides, Jews fleeing Arab countries to Israel, and Arabs fleeing Israel to the surrounding states. Both got held hostage to a certain extent. The Israelis got the fun job of being the permanent western military partner of Britian and France (and later America) in a hostile region. But at least they got to build a nation. The Palestinians who went the other way got held as permanent refugees by the Arab countries (and the U.N.) never to be granted citizenship by anyone and used as four generations of political pawns against the west.
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--wsb
I had a feeling that this thread and movie-would have a way of drawing a great deal of attention. Right from the start it was quite easy to see, that the sides would stack up on both sides of the aisle on this one. Since, I have not viewed the movie, and may not even do so, I ain't touching this one.
45 minutes of torture, the whipping, then the walk, I understand all the meaning behind the movie, the idea that Mel wanted to make people understand the suffering......I dont know, it just didnt cut it for me.
But there are very few movies I enjoyed this past year.
The Cooler was ok, Mystic was ok, Monster was ok, and I enjoyed Finding Nemo. Maybe one or two others I cant recall now.
But there are very few movies I enjoyed this past year.
The Cooler was ok, Mystic was ok, Monster was ok, and I enjoyed Finding Nemo. Maybe one or two others I cant recall now.
Originally posted by h. von bingen
spartacus is one my favorite movies.
spartacus is one my favorite movies.
Ditto
I think the message of Spartacus, at least to a 10 year old mind, was a foundational theme. Freedom from enslavement to categories, group thinking, going with the crowd, bending to the wills of the egoistic... all became personal values. Perhaps a bit of projection there, but hey Jean Simmons is quite an eyeful.