New Music you've come to appreciate
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Originally posted by justme
(I'm not attacking you, it just frusterates me when I see this kind of ignorance regarding any type of music.)
(I'm not attacking you, it just frusterates me when I see this kind of ignorance regarding any type of music.)
Electronica has splintered into so many different sub-genres that it's difficult to call it all one thing at this point. Aphex Twin is up there with Bowie and whoever else (IMHO) as far as pushing music forward goes. Most people don't like electronic music until they hear it in a commercial or an action film.
Originally posted by h. von bingen
i have never been to a karaoke club (i mean really).
i have never been to a karaoke club (i mean really).
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Originally posted by sod
Most people don't like electronic music until they hear it in a commercial or an action film.
Most people don't like electronic music until they hear it in a commercial or an action film.
(whose earlier stuff I liked (even that bizarre Animal Rights album), but who lost me with Play)
((I'm not really getting worked up))
(((Well, at least compared to other things on UG that piss me off)))
I initially queried why I believed OR preceived that pre-early-70's music was better. I think in some ways music is like language, and the most powerful music for us may always be the music of our youth. Just as it is gets more difficult to learn new languages with age; it is harder to appreciate new genres of music as you get older.
Someone mentioned System of a Down - which is my 13 year olds favorite band. My 15 year old worships Aphex Twin and Moby. After years of dismissing them (if only because I thought my tastes should be more sophisticated than my kids!) I now grudgingly admit that they have some merit. But it has taken time. (I don't have unlimited time like JL). Like HUNSUCKER says, there is so much crap assailing our ears that I tend to tune most new stuff out and wait a few decades until the cream gets sorted out before I seriously invest my listening time. The problem with this approach is missing the opportunity to see the good stuff live. (I missed the first ten years of the Dave Mathews Band for this reason, but luckily they are still touring!)
In any event, even putting asisde the foregoing, I still think the last 30 years or so have been a relatively dry spell for music in general. I don't subscribe to the view that music is merely "sound in time." If it doesn't SING - it ain't music.
Someone mentioned System of a Down - which is my 13 year olds favorite band. My 15 year old worships Aphex Twin and Moby. After years of dismissing them (if only because I thought my tastes should be more sophisticated than my kids!) I now grudgingly admit that they have some merit. But it has taken time. (I don't have unlimited time like JL). Like HUNSUCKER says, there is so much crap assailing our ears that I tend to tune most new stuff out and wait a few decades until the cream gets sorted out before I seriously invest my listening time. The problem with this approach is missing the opportunity to see the good stuff live. (I missed the first ten years of the Dave Mathews Band for this reason, but luckily they are still touring!)
In any event, even putting asisde the foregoing, I still think the last 30 years or so have been a relatively dry spell for music in general. I don't subscribe to the view that music is merely "sound in time." If it doesn't SING - it ain't music.
There's so much music in the world. You don't only have to listen to new music. And you don't only have to listen to music that's played on the radio (or however music gets marketed these days). There's a lot of old music you don't know. There's a lot of music from outside the U.S. and Western Europe that you don't know. There are whole genres you don't know about.
This is going to be tendentious, but when I see middle-aged men still listening to the same derivative crap they listened to as teenagers,* it makes me sad. There's so much better stuff out there.
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* Do you think Jimmy Page and Robert Plant listen to stuff that sounds like Led Zep? Fuck no: they listen to Sunny Boy Williamson. Now that you're a grownup, maybe you should, too.
This is going to be tendentious, but when I see middle-aged men still listening to the same derivative crap they listened to as teenagers,* it makes me sad. There's so much better stuff out there.
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* Do you think Jimmy Page and Robert Plant listen to stuff that sounds like Led Zep? Fuck no: they listen to Sunny Boy Williamson. Now that you're a grownup, maybe you should, too.
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It's the "music in general" that gets me.
All you could conceivably be talking about is American pop music.
Lots of African pop forms, as an example, went through golden ages in the 70s and 80s.
Jazz went through a renaissance in the 90s.
There are so many examples. You can have narrow tastes if you want (I guess you'll say you don't have time not to, but I'd say you just don't care enough -- which is fine, but not if you're gonna express broad sweeping opinions). But don't then use the limited nature of what you know and like as a basis for sweeping dismissals of "music in general".
It's like if Julie's went through a dry spell, and then somebody posted that there aren't any good prostitutes in New York anymore.
All you could conceivably be talking about is American pop music.
Lots of African pop forms, as an example, went through golden ages in the 70s and 80s.
Jazz went through a renaissance in the 90s.
There are so many examples. You can have narrow tastes if you want (I guess you'll say you don't have time not to, but I'd say you just don't care enough -- which is fine, but not if you're gonna express broad sweeping opinions). But don't then use the limited nature of what you know and like as a basis for sweeping dismissals of "music in general".
It's like if Julie's went through a dry spell, and then somebody posted that there aren't any good prostitutes in New York anymore.
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Ah yes JL - sometimes you are like a father to me (especially since Paulus left). I admit that I spent quite a spell in a deep genre rut (classical and classic rock, mostly) but for several months I have been working my way through all the great blues masters, as you may partly glean from one of my previous posts in this thread.
Originally posted by azzure
the most powerful music for us may always be the music of our youth.
the most powerful music for us may always be the music of our youth.
Originally posted by justlooking
I think Play is the best Western pop album of the last five years.
I think Play is the best Western pop album of the last five years.
Missy Elliot's "Under Construction", if we're considering that pop music, is just as strong.
Originally posted by alterego
Normal music is a religion; karaoke is a cult. A leaderless drunken cult, but a cult nonetheless. And I'm a bonafide cult member. I love listening to flawed singing. I find it endlessly entertaining. I don't know why.
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Normal music is a religion; karaoke is a cult. A leaderless drunken cult, but a cult nonetheless. And I'm a bonafide cult member. I love listening to flawed singing. I find it endlessly entertaining. I don't know why.
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I've never been to a karaoke bar, but some people seem to like them. I may check it out someday.
I don't think they've mentioned here yet:
AntiCon records puts out a lot of very good experimental hiphop. Some of it is experimental to the point of unlistenable imho (or rather, things like DoseOne/BoomBip's Circle are good in small doses when you want to sit and listen carefully as opposed to dance or have background music), others are more traditional (AntiPopConsortium).
My favorites from them so far (mind you, this is not knowing all of their stuff by a long shot):
AntiPopConsortium--Arrythmia
Deep Puddle Dynamics--The Taste of Rain...Why Kneel
Themselves--The No Music
AntiCon records puts out a lot of very good experimental hiphop. Some of it is experimental to the point of unlistenable imho (or rather, things like DoseOne/BoomBip's Circle are good in small doses when you want to sit and listen carefully as opposed to dance or have background music), others are more traditional (AntiPopConsortium).
My favorites from them so far (mind you, this is not knowing all of their stuff by a long shot):
AntiPopConsortium--Arrythmia
Deep Puddle Dynamics--The Taste of Rain...Why Kneel
Themselves--The No Music
Originally posted by Bill Furniture
I've never been to a karaoke bar, but some people seem to like them. I may check it out someday.
I've never been to a karaoke bar, but some people seem to like them. I may check it out someday.
But if you are a ham who gets a kick out of getting up on a stage and making a complete ass of yourself in front of laughing strangers... beware... karaoke can be addictive.
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