Looking for info on these High End Agencies

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justlooking

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Ozzy

No, actually I think I'd say that to me it's usually the face (which is pretty important to me) that's misrepresented more than the body type. But really, it may be more like the whole affect that's usually misrepresented -- glamour shots by definition make people look more glamorous than they are.
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Originally posted by justlooking
No, actually I think I'd say that to me it's usually the face (which is pretty important to me) that's misrepresented more than the body type. But really, it may be more like the whole affect that's usually misrepresented -- glamour shots by definition make people look more glamorous than they are.
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BUT...after having looked at almost every NYC escort webpage (both agency and independent) for over 2 years now, I can say that it is VERY easy to tell when pictures have been doctored. Glamour Shots and regular photos look very different and I know not to trust glamour shots that much since they most likely have been touched up and air-brushed even.
 
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justlooking

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BigBucks

What I like is different from what you like. I don't like sessions that feel like they're professional. I like to be able to delude myself into thinking that what's happening could be happening in real life. So I like prostitutes who are (or seem) fairly inexperienced (or at least fresh) and who seem like they don't do a lot of sex work. I know that this is controversial and that a lot of guys don't feel this way, but I don't like to feel like I'm being serviced. I like the illusion that something mutual is going on.

That's what I can get from so-called "high end" agencies that is different from what you get from Ana, as skilled and attentive as she obviously is. I don't think that anyone who's seen Ana would say they forgot they were with a prostitute.

Again, none of this is meant as criticism of Ana.
 
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Ozzy

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glamour shots go without saying.... i'd NEVER go by a glamour shot and not expect a major drop off. if you rememner Luana's page for example since BBNY mentioned it... she had simple pictures with no touch up's and very light make-up. with all the brazilians and small time indies who had simple web sites and pics as well as some smaller agencies..... the pictures are fairly accurate. it's the bigger agencies and professional webscorts (HoN, DoD) who pay photogs a grand to shoot a girl or two and run them thru photoshop that the pics tend to vary so much.
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Re: BigBucks

Originally posted by justlooking
What I like is different from what you like. I don't like sessions that feel like they're professional. I like to be able to delude myself into thinking that what's happening could be happening in real life. So I like prostitutes who are (or seem) fairly inexperienced (or at least fresh) and who seem like they don't do a lot of sex work. I know that this is controversial and that a lot of guys don't feel this way, but I don't like to feel like I'm being serviced. I like the illusion that something mutual is going on.

That's what I can get from so-called "high end" agencies that is different from what you get from Ana, as skilled and attentive as she obviously is.
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I guess you didn't understand but Ana is EXACTLY what you described you are looking for. She makes it seem as if you've just gotten back from a date and are not ready to finally fuck. From everyone I've talked to about her, it is one of the most fantastic experiences because she doesn't make it feel like a session or mechanical at all - she really does play out the slutty girlfriend experience to the extreme. You don't have to go high end to find that.

I am looking high end not for a more extreme GFE but because I also get off on being with women who really look like supermodels - and I can usually ONLY find that look in higher end agencies (such as Chloe from NYCovergirl.com). Very Young, VERY thin, usually in the modeling industry, and VERY well-kept - that is what higher end agencies supply me.
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Originally posted by Ozzy
glamour shots go without saying.... i'd NEVER go by a glamour shot and not expect a major drop off. if you rememner Luana's page for example since BBNY mentioned it... she had simple pictures with no touch up's and very light make-up. with all the brazilians and small time indies who had simple web sites and pics as well as some smaller agencies..... the pictures are fairly accurate. it's the bigger agencies and professional webscorts (HoN, DoD) who pay photogs a grand to shoot a girl or two and run them thru photoshop that the pics tend to vary so much.
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Exactly- that has been my experience time and time again. I agree 100%
 
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justlooking

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BigBucks and Ozzy re Photos

I agree that you can tell which pictures are likely to be accurate and which aren't. And don't get me wrong, I don't never rely on pictures (is that English?). And when I do, I look for the same things you guys look for.

But I guess my real point is that there are a lot of very good prostitutes out there -- and not just very good ones, but ones who are exactly the type I prefer -- who for one understandable reason or another don't want their pictures on the net. And I'm happy not to be missing out on them.
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Re: BigBucks and Ozzy re Photos

Originally posted by justlooking

But I guess my real point is that there are a lot of very good prostitutes out there -- and not just very good ones, but ones who are exactly the type I prefer -- who for one understandable reason or another don't want their pictures on the net. And I'm happy not to be missing out on them.
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I understand and if I saw providers once a week I'd feel the same way but I am totally willing to overlook and lose out on providers who don't post pictures since I am NOT willing to take the chance and ending up with a women I wouldn't fantasize about.
 
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justlooking

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(And to add one more complicating factor, the agencies that these women I'm talking about work for aren't only ones like Le Directoire that don't advertise pictures. They're also agencies like Blue Lace or the no-longer-existent Glamour Roses that advertise patently fake pictures as cat's paws for the women they're offering. What I learned was that you can get very good women from agencies like that if you just learn to ignore the pictures and concentrate on the women.)
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Re: BigBucks

Originally posted by justlooking
See, we aren't even really arguing anymore, because as I said, given your infrequency of use I think your position is totally reasonable.
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I know- we have just had such a great discussion I didn't want it to end. Too bad we can't get together and split a high end women between us because I am we are both looking for similar things in the end!!!
 
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justlooking

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BigBucks re Ana

All I can tell you is that what you describe isn't what my experience with Ana (admittedly years ago) was like. Everything was very well done, but . . . . No deep kissing. Everything covered. Not MY idea of coming back from a date and finally fucking. More like my idea of what a very accomplished prostitute would do for a customer.

(And I'll say it once more: that isn't meant as a criticism of Ana. She was VERY accomplished.)
 
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BigBucksNYC

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Re: BigBucks re Ana

Originally posted by justlooking
All I can tell is that what you describe isn't what my experience with Ana (admittedly years ago) was like. Everything was very well done, but . . . . No deep kissing. Everything covered. Not MY idea of coming back from a date and finally fucking.
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I've heard she was into deep kissing...but i may be wrong. And yes, you are right...everything is covered - but I feel more secure about that anyway since I know what goes around and don't want to partake in that aspect of the hobby!
 
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An now....for the necessary "restaurant analogy" :

Two choices:

Restaurant A, where you can see a photo ( in fact MANY photos ) of the meal. You get the complete list of ingredients. You get to see photos of the ingredients before they are cooked. You get to see photos of the ingredients after they are cooked. You get to see photos of the ingredients while they are being cooked. You get a video of the farmer growing the food, as well as the fisherman and the rancher.

Restaurant B, which is named "Bouley", and the only thing you get told is "Beef", "Chicken", "Duck", "Swordfish", etc.

I choose "B".
 
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dhutchins

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Money

JL:

The outcall was a firm in New Haven, CT, and I think it was like $150 per hour. It was a couple years ago so I don't recall the exact amount. I do remember that she was heavy, unnattractive and demanded money for gas.

Abear
 
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justlooking

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I don't want to overgeneralize, but my point is that people have bad experiences with these horrible cheap agencies and then incorrectly generalize from them to expensive reputable agencies. Now I'm not saying that every expensive agency is reputable (or that every cheap agency is horrible). But just because you were ripped off by some $150 agency in New Haven, it doesn't mean that you can't trust the phone girl at Le Directoire.

To continue with the inevitable Restaurant Analogy, say you got a plate of inedible slop when you walked into some greasy spoon off Route 95 somewhere and told the cook behind the counter to "surprise" you when he asked for your order. It would be pretty silly to use that as a basis for refusing to try an Omakase dinner at Nobu.
 
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justlooking

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One theme of this thread is that some guys are looking for a "sure thing" and other guys are willing to experiment.

This is going to sound horrible, but to me one of the features of the "high end" is the assumption that the customer has enough money to throw around in it that he's willing to take some risks. I don't think that trying for a "sure thing" is the best way to take advantage of this market segment.

One thing you can see, for example, is that I'm thinking more in terms of agencies to use, whereas BigBucks is thinking more in terms of specific women. BigBucks wants to know about "Chloe" at NY Covergirls. I'm trying to say you should find an agency you can trust and be willing to take what they supply you, without reviews* and sight unseen. To me, that's more the way this market segment operates.
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* You're never going to find a lot of reviews of "high end" agency girls. First, because they don't get reviewed; the customers of those agencies tend not to be public reviewers. But second, even if they were, the girls don't tend to be around a lot or for long. Many of them work infrequently and/or sporadically, and a lot of them seem to quit for good after they make a very specific nut. I rarely see "high end" agency girls more than once or twice -- not because I don't want to, but because they're often either not working that day or gone altogether by the time I get back to the agency. Since they work so infrequently, their availability for review is low.
 
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thrilla

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Re: Ana

Big Bucks -

Just a thought on Ana, since I know from these and past postings that you like extremely thin women...I would describe Ana as athletic (using *** parlance), not thin or waif-like per se. This isn't to say that she's at all fat or big-boned, just not *extremely* thin. Disclaimer: I saw her about a year and a half ago, maybe things have changed, maybe my memory's off. All the other good things about her that people say, though, I found true: she's smart, unique, engaging, genuine, very erotic etc., and these are, in my mind, reasons enough to see her whether she meets your exact body type or not.

Best,

Thrilla
 
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