Like I care what you think or a whore thinks.

[IRVINGTON29]

Yea I am back

I think I am the most eloquent speaker on the board. Damn when I woke up today I reread what I wrote and I had to pat myself on the back again. You run and attack me for leaving my dog in the backyard and go on some speech about saving abused animals. Then you say I need counseling. Your still a slut bucket for UG lol.

A friend of mine say "let it go", no I will repeat it again your a slut bucket for UG. You attack JXM for his opinions when he does not agree with you. You attack other hobbyists that do not agree with you. Every post you do is some complaint or another. You said I am anonymous, everybody here is anonymous you ROCK HEAD! Then you make mention about "privacy issues", yet your selling your ass cheeks to the public.

Your desperate attempts for business is getting tiring. I would just pay you to shut your mouth and rub my left nut sack. That is it, since you only do body rubs or whatever you call it. Stop running to the moderators like a school girl running for the teachers.

I am not angry or bitter about anything. We were talking about dogs until you jumped in saying I abuse my dog. That was the last straw after that.

Your new name Fairemily the UG SLUT BUCKET!

Now another hobbyist is flaming you and degrading you. Your using the sexism card like a loser. Everytime you write I am going to call you the UG SLUT BUCKET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good day to everyone

 

[fairemily]

You are all talking about infidelity which I think, by definition, is morally wrong in that it involves deception and the breaking of a promise.

The original issue was (I think): is prostitution itself - the selling and paying for sex - wrong? I suppose since the vast majority of customers are married men, the issue is blurred.

Also I have to step up to the plate here for Emily. I've seen her twice in the past and she treated me like a king. The second time was one of the nicest times I've ever spent with a woman, paying or not. Very human, very open, interested in movies and a fine
conversationalist. You know she's just being honest on this board about her experiences. I wish she had better luck with the "real" men in her life but you know I didn't detect any bitterness or even cynicism about people in general. She genuinely likes men. So Irv you're way off base there.

Thank you Joe, your right I am not a bitter or cynical person because I chose not to be. I had a long awkward stage growing up and once that passed I had alot of attention and probably accepted men in my life I should have passed on because of my inexperience. I hold no anger or resent towards them but I did think alot about the meaning of relationships whether good or bad. I think alot about everything, it's the way my mind works and I realize not all my theories and personal beliefs are widely accepted but at least I think outside the box and don't believe everything religion and goverment tells me to be true.

Unlike before I think it's better not to discuss personal experiences here even when they pertain to the topic. It's a shame because I see less woman participating in recent times than before and honestly I can't blame them. I try not to let anyone censor me with intimation but I can't waste my mental energy entertaining members with hidden agendas, it's draining.

 

[IRVINGTON29]

Dear Joe

I do not knock her performance. She has to be good at something to be in "the game". But as far as the banter back and forth she can't take a taste of her own medicine. She is a polarizing figure and that is fine with me. But when she starts running to the moderators or she says things like why he is even registered that is when I have to "let loose on her". Other than that she has some "interesting things to say".

I think she says things provider girls are 'afraid to say", clearly the industry has changed. Now the she implies certain hobbyists "hate women". However she wants to phrase it, I just think the business is just getting "hardcore". For example "ghetto gaggers" That has to be the most extreme porn I have ever seen. Some hobbyists want that type of service. So its only natural that the aggressiveness will cross over to debates we have here.

I mean I can admire Fair Emily because she rarely rides the fence or "play it safe", so money is not a big deal to her. But at the same time I think she feels hobbyists "like me and JXM" have to feel like she do.

Bottom line I will not sugar coat anything. She need to stop that sexism card and stop crying for help when her the argument does not go her way.

By the way she is still a UG Slut Bucket and once she embraces that she will be ok. As for me hating providers I laugh at that.

Why nobody gets into with Desi, Desi is doing good. Damn shame some providers see the big picture than others.

Good day to everyone.

 

[fairemily]

Yea I am back

I think I am the most eloquent speaker on the board. Damn when I woke up today I reread what I wrote and I had to pat myself on the back again. You run and attack me for leaving my dog in the backyard and go on some speech about saving abused animals. Then you say I need counseling. Your still a slut bucket for UG lol.

A friend of mine say "let it go", no I will repeat it again your a slut bucket for UG. You attack JXM for his opinions when he does not agree with you. You attack other hobbyists that do not agree with you. Every post you do is some complaint or another. You said I am anonymous, everybody here is anonymous you ROCK HEAD! Then you make mention about "privacy issues", yet your selling your ass cheeks to the public.

Your desperate attempts for business is getting tiring. I would just pay you to shut your mouth and rub my left nut sack. That is it, since you only do body rubs or whatever you call it. Stop running to the moderators like a school girl running for the teachers.

I am not angry or bitter about anything. We were talking about dogs until you jumped in saying I abuse my dog. That was the last straw after that.

Your new name Fairemily the UG SLUT BUCKET!

Now another hobbyist is flaming you and degrading you. Your using the sexism card like a loser. Everytime you write I am going to call you the UG SLUT BUCKET!!!!!!!!!!!!

Good day to everyone

I really hope this is an act because if this is really how you think we should all be a little concerned. It's not normal what you are doing, you don't even know me, seriously I am a stranger to you. How can you write you are not angry, I think you are beyond angry at something and using me as a figure to focus on. You are a very sick man if this is not pretend and even if this is pretend you should find another venue to purge like a psychiatrist's office.

I know I wrote I was going to disregard you comments but I must make it clear once again I think you need some serious help, I don't think I have even had anyone focus such hatred on me as you and for what, a comment just like the hundreds of comments on this board, you are acting like I killed someone you love, it's not normal, I feel so very sorry for you.

 

[NYC55]

Why would you write this? you should explain yourself. Does it mean anytime someone writes something nice about the woman they actually know on this board they are ass kissers.

Do you know what's worse? when someone takes one word out of every few sentences you write and manifests it with only intentions to flame and degrade. Just for the record I have no idea who Joe Sarno is meaning I do not ask for handles so I know him by his real name not the handle so how would he benifit by writing that?

gladly... I thought everyone would know what I was talking about. the topic of this thread has turned to morality and right/wrong. JS in the middle of giving an answer suddenly started commenting on his 2 sessions with you. if he wants to review you it belongs in your thread not here. had nothing to do with the topic.

 

[fairemily]

gladly... I thought everyone would know what I was talking about. the topic of this thread has turned to morality and right/wrong. JS in the middle of giving an answer suddenly started commenting on his 2 sessions with you. if he wants to review you it belongs in your thread not here. had nothing to do with the topic.

He address two issues that are circulating on this thread in one post, that would not be a first here and not enough reason to criticize him.

 

[Retoxicate]

 

[scoochamenz1]

i'm on my third bowl of popcorn, carry on. lol.

 

[Joe Sarno]

gladly... I thought everyone would know what I was talking about. the topic of this thread has turned to morality and right/wrong. JS in the middle of giving an answer suddenly started commenting on his 2 sessions with you. if he wants to review you it belongs in your thread not here. had nothing to do with the topic.

Not exactly. Both Irv and JXM have gone into detail about Emily's personality, at least here on the board. My experience with her was positive. I'm not that into massage/bodyrub anyway (though I've generally enjoyed my sessions with masseuses since they have to know how to engage you in conversation) so I doubt I will even be repeating soon. If the tone of my comments rubbed you the wrong way, hey, what can I say?

As for the other stuff, it seems everyone is sort of on edge. Maybe the economic news, something in the air. To bring it more on point, San Francisco is holding a ballot on whether or not to decriminalize prostitution. It would be nice if this hobby wasn't so risky for both sides.

http://news.aol.com/elections/article/san-francisco-may-allow-prostitution/220309

 

[JXM]

Both Irv and JXM have gone into detail about Emily's personality, at least here on the board.

I would like to be clear on this point. I have taken issues with things that Emily has said. I don't have any knowledge of Emily's personality. I have my opinions, but they aren't really relevant.

Reading UG for me is entertainment. Something to do to pass the time. When I read something that I agree or disagree with or something that strikes me in some way, I will comment as I see fit.

The fact that some posters feel that their words on a PMB are the textual embodiment of their real life personas (and are to be defended to the death) says to me that they are taking their "online life" too seriously.

 

[elmo16]

You are probably one of the most deranged, emotionally unstable, schizophrenic members that have ever been allowed to stay on this board. I am not going to question the mods reasons for letting you stay but your true colors are showing and it's ugly.

Do you really have any idea of how insane you really are?? seriously have you acknowledged you need help. I have as much emotional compassion for you as I would a cockroach but even I feel sorry for you because you are so very very sick. I tried to take you with humor but you just make me sad. You can only read and reply with such internal and external hate, you have no good in your life otherwise you would not write the things you do. My life is wonderful, my energy is good and feel great about my place in this world, we are on such different plateaus you can't even get near to me without hiding behind an anonymous handle. I am not even upset, I just feel sorrow for you. Write whatever you like about me I will never respond again but please take my advice and see someone who can help you and your resentment and anger issues. Irv, seriously you are in some bad stuff.

Ah come on, the repartee between Vermeer and Miki was far more civilized, and a whole lot funnier then what is going on between you two. You two need to work on your routine.

 

[fairemily]

Ah come on, the repartee between Vermeer and Miki was far more civilized, and a whole lot funnier then what is going on between you two. You two need to work on your routine.

Sorry, I am not entertaining enough for you, maybe Irving should look up some more nasty phases on The Urban Dictionary to spew at me for your viewing pleasure. You can scoochamenz1 can cozy up under a blanket on the couch with another bowl and popcorn and laugh it up.

 

[billyS]

Irv, you are a stupid fuck. Your reviews are funny and I guess that is why they keep you around, sort of like having a pet monkey. Monkeys throw their poop around but we accept it from them because we know they are stupid and don't know any better. That seems to be the story with you. You get away with shit like calling a paying UG advertiser a 'slut-bucket' because we have lower expectations from you. You are basically our pet monkey.
And don't even fucking go there about snitching to a moderator. Keep that ghetto bullshit to yourself. Nobody except grade schooler's , prison inmates and people who live in ghettos use the term 'snitch'. By doing so it just shows what a fucking low life piece of shit you are.
Irv, I have no problem with you being on UG. I'm not saying you shouldn't post here. But what I am saying is that you are a low class asshole.
You think you are so smart, that you know so much about 'the game' but the more you post the more I see all you know is the lowest street level. You are pathetic. You think 'upscale' is a street girl with a CL ad.

 

[fortydog]

I would like to be clear on this point. I have taken issues with things that Emily has said. I don't have any knowledge of Emily's personality. I have my opinions, but they aren't really relevant.

Reading UG for me is entertainment. Something to do to pass the time. When I read something that I agree or disagree with or something that strikes me in some way, I will comment as I see fit.

The fact that some posters feel that their words on a PMB are the textual embodiment of their real life personas (and are to be defended to the death) says to me that they are taking their "online life" too seriously.

You fail to realize that Emily does not have the same kind of anonymity that you enjoy. It is more than just entrainment to her, it is her livelihood.

 

[JXM]

You fail to realize that Emily does not have the same kind of anonymity that you enjoy. It is more than just entrainment to her, it is her livelihood.

No. I don't fail to realize that. Which is why she shouldn't go on endless rants and tirades if she cares about her business.

What it does is it splits the guys into two camps: the Emily defenders and the guys that wouldn't go near her with a ten foot pole.

What's more important? Winning a pointless online argument? Or building a business? I don't think she should mix the two, but she is free to conduct herself however she likes. She is an adult.

 

[fairemily]

No. I don't fail to realize that. Which is why she shouldn't go on endless rants and tirades if she cares about her business.

What it does is it splits the guys into two camps: the Emily defenders and the guys that wouldn't go near her with a ten foot pole.

What's more important? Winning a pointless online argument? Or building a business? I don't think she should mix the two, but she is free to conduct herself however she likes. She is an adult.

Do you honestly believe disagreeing with a pompous know - it - all like yourself would affect my buisness or discredit any of my reviews?. What is with you and Irving concern about my buisness, do I owe you guys money? I have been participating in discussion for years, not always agreeing with members but it was always civil and never personal.

You do have an unfair advantage knowing much more about me then I do of you and use to the full extent. You love to exaggerate my actions, endless rants now?? You deliberately take my posts out of context, isolate individual words to use against me and love and I mean absolutely love to put me in my place, telling me how you think I should act. I know this much, you want my attention and seek it out whenever you see an opportunity, that much is obvious but I don't know if it's because you despise me or want to f**k me, maybe both.

 

[billyS]

Message to jimmy hoffa

Irv, just to show you I'm a helpful guy I will try to educate your dumb ass. This is a review of an 'upscale' provider:
http://utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?p=802229#post802229
Now, if you had the will power to forgo picking up those big-assed street ho's you get in the Bronx for a few months and saved your pennies you could get a girl like Jade. But then I doubt you could handle it.

 

[IRVINGTON29]

Dear Billy

"Jade" is a cute girl I will give you that. But I am not Richard Gere from Pretty Woman. Apparently you are, in a collapsing economy. Is she in San Fran, I am in New York. You can travel for pussy. I will stay right here, there is plenty of "Jades" for the right price or "ones close to it".

My preference is my preference, if I wanted a jade it would be easy to get. Again I am not in the business of giving no whore 300 dollars for service much less 200.

So "save your pennies" and buy the whore flowers and candy. Perhaps you get a cut by influencing hobbyists to spend a lot of money on whores.

Since I am a "Maverick" I will stick to my big booty hos, she sure will not be no "skinny booty ho" that is for sure.

Good day

Anyway thanks for looking out Billy. About time you threw a touch down. Now just review one of these "upscale" whores you advocate for. Then I might be swayed.

Good day

 

[NYC55]

Hey... Irv and Hugh Grant like the same type of whores. don't knock it.

 

[IRVINGTON29]

(Putting hands over my face)

I know she did not say this statement

"Do you honestly believe disagreeing with a pompous know - it - all like yourself would affect my buisness or discredit any of my reviews?. What is with you and Irving concern about my buisness, do I owe you guys money? I have been participating in discussion for years, not always agreeing with members but it was always civil and never personal."

It is not personal fairemily, I guess the debate is real intense that it can crossover real fast. I will apologize the UG slut bucket comment. On the internet things look more intense than it really is. It is like talking politics, it can get out of hand real quick.

You also said this I had to laugh that was just my instant reaction.

"I know this much, you want my attention and seek it out whenever you see an opportunity, that much is obvious but I don't know if it's because you despise me or want to f**k me, maybe both."

Here we go the provider ego "letting loose", this is not just an indictment on you Fairemily. You providers got big egos, it never ceases to amaze me. Narcissistic, self absorbed and selfish.

The lovely world of UG where everybody has an ego and there is bound to be conflict lol. By the way Fairemily you are intriguing because you manage to stand out from the rest of providers.

I happen to like your commentary, because the board would be boring.

Good day