Legalizing Marijuana in NYS

#1
Today’s news headlines the NYS Bar supporting legalization of adult recreational marijuana use.. Accompanied with Cuomos recent effort it looks like our streets will soon be filled ( not they are not already) with pot smoking, under the influence populous smoking away..

I firmly believe that pot use is a segue to illegal drug use and increases the likelihood that the recreational pot smoker can become addicted ...

What’s it about....
Tax revenues and
Supporting the left are the first two things that come to mind —

I am extremely saddened to see what is happening in today’s society...
 
#4
But pot needs to be legal. People do it anyway , accessible anyway ..
Box our some dealers , tax $
So you box out the dealers by making pot an easy get from a store front... The dealers will find another source of revenue—
Pills, opioids, etc.. Our young adults who know no better- A vicious cycle..
 
#5
There is no evidence to suggest that marijuana is "gateway drug". You can believe it but you can also believe in ghosts but it doesn't mean it's true. So with that pesky lie out of the way, wouldn't you want it to be regulated and taxed and not have innocent people not go to jail over smoking a plant?

Would you not support a bill legalizing prostitution? Make it safer and not have innocent people go to jail? Do you see where I'm going with this?
 

pokler

Power Bottom
#6
So you box out the dealers by making pot an easy get from a store front... The dealers will find another source of revenue—
Pills, opioids, etc.. Our young adults who know no better- A vicious cycle..
If their caught selling narcotics then make the penalty severe like life in prison. Lock them up no bail. Fuck Cuomo and his no bail policy. And fuck Fredo too another pro criminal piece of shit.
 
#7
If their caught selling narcotics then make the penalty severe like life in prison. Lock them up no bail. .......
That approach was tried by a NY governor named Rockefeller — that far right approach to crime didn't work just as the far left approach of today's governor won't work; there has to be a more rational approach toward the middle.
also, legalization will result in regulation of the product such that some of the nasty additives added to pot on the street to give it more of a kick would be eliminated.
 
#10
In states that when recreational there is still a black market. There will always be professions ( doctors, lawyers, educators, etc) that will not want to go on record as purchasing pot.
 
#11
Alcohol is the gateway drug. Numerous studies show this if you are interested in viewing the findings. Should alcohol be illegal?

Decriminalization means not locking people up or citing them for the crime of possession. Do we really want to spend valuable tax payer resources arresting, jailing and imprisoning people for Marijuana possession?

Decriminalization also acts as a source of additional revenue for the State for something people are already engaging in. Gambling can be an addiction that ruins lives, but that won't stop States from sea to shining sea from opening casinos and legalizing sports betting.

For all the pearl clutching about what would happen when States allow this Reefer Madness, it seems pretty clear public safety isn't endangered and the entirety of society doesn't begin to smoke up just because it's legal. This most troubling findings about pot use after legalization?

Problematic use among adolescents aged 12 to 17 increased (a small increase from 2.18 to 2.72 percent) compared to states without legal recreational use.

Mind you this age cohort are not able to legally purchase it anyway. Among adults there wasn't any statistically significant findings of increase in pot use among adults once it became legalized.

It's almost as if Reefer Madness is a silly scare tactic with no basis in reality and racially charged roots from a bygone era that some people still mistakenly cling to.
 
#12
.....Decriminalization means not locking people up or citing them for the crime of possession. Do we really want to spend valuable tax payer resources arresting, jailing and imprisoning people for Marijuana possession?

Decriminalization also acts as a source of additional revenue for the State for something people are already engaging in.
Looks like you are confusing legalization vs decriminalization.
 
#14
Consensus on the legalization of marijuana, cannibas shops that are opening up all over the State etc

While I have no objection to medicinal marijuana, Physician prescribed gummies etc, I find the ongoing popularity of people just lighting up to be offensive and deplorable— I know a handful of young adults ( late teens and early 20’s ) who are addicted to the pipe and have some significant behavioral problems associated with lighting up and vaping

I recently attended funeral for a friends child who overdosed—A couple of adults whipped out some joints and had the fking nerve to light up- Came about an inch away from slapping them down
 
#15
Consensus on the legalization of marijuana, cannibas shops that are opening up all over the State etc

While I have no objection to medicinal marijuana, Physician prescribed gummies etc, I find the ongoing popularity of people just lighting up to be offensive and deplorable— I know a handful of young adults ( late teens and early 20’s ) who are addicted to the pipe and have some significant behavioral problems associated with lighting up and vaping

I recently attended funeral for a friends child who overdosed—A couple of adults whipped out some joints and had the fking nerve to light up- Came about an inch away from slapping them down
I personally smoke weed now myself after retiring. I view getting high the same as drinking. The rules of behavior should also apply to both.
What you described would be the equivalent of drinking at a funeral for someone killed by a drunk driver. That is reprehensible.
Same goes for driving and smoking weed. You don't see general acceptance for drinking while driving these days but getting high while driving is too commonplace.
As with drinking, moderation is key in my opinion.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#17
I think people, and it's mostly low income poorly educated people, are under the impression that pot is totally legal and they can just light up a blunt wherever they want.

At times this summer the boardwalk in Long Beach smelled as bad as the boardwalk in Atlantic City.

I don't consider marijuana a "gateway" drug and I use my own experience to back my opinion. I was a 'pothead' for about six years and always resisted moving on to 'harder' drugs like cocaine or angel dust.

But that said if a person has a hereditary predisposition to substance abuse it might be a different situation.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#18
I personally smoke weed now myself after retiring. I view getting high the same as drinking. The rules of behavior should also apply to both.
I totally agree with this and that's why I think it should be legal. There is no difference in smoking a joint or popping a few gummies after diner or on a Sunday afternoon to relax as opposed to pouring yourself a few stiff ones in the same situation.
 
#19
I think people, and it's mostly low income poorly educated people, are under the impression that pot is totally legal and they can just light up a blunt wherever they want.

At times this summer the boardwalk in Long Beach smelled as bad as the boardwalk in Atlantic City.

I don't consider marijuana a "gateway" drug and I use my own experience to back my opinion. I was a 'pothead' for about six years and always resisted moving on to 'harder' drugs like cocaine or angel dust.

But that said if a person has a hereditary predisposition to substance abuse it might be a different situation.
Back in the day, I too, smoked my days away—From time to time I popped a lude, and dabbled with a few other things- I grew up and walked away from any substances of that sort.

Marijuana was just that - It was not laced with foreign substances designed to get one hooked and segue into the more dangerous substances—

While I understand your consideration that marijuana is not a gateway drug, I think todays younger generation who imbibe irresponsibly have a much higher chance of getting hooked on the more dangerous and sadly potentially fatal substances
 
#20
Consensus on the legalization of marijuana, cannibas shops that are opening up all over the State etc

While I have no objection to medicinal marijuana, Physician prescribed gummies etc, I find the ongoing popularity of people just lighting up to be offensive and deplorable— I know a handful of young adults ( late teens and early 20’s ) who are addicted to the pipe and have some significant behavioral problems associated with lighting up and vaping

I recently attended funeral for a friends child who overdosed—A couple of adults whipped out some joints and had the fking nerve to light up- Came about an inch away from slapping them down
I smoke often. I'm extremely productive. Earn a decent amount. It relaxes me so i don't gotta put hands on people . I go through stages with it . Sometimes i will smoke often then for several months drop it.

It helps with SA sometimes cause some chicks love to smoke and they get relaxed before i pipe em down.
 
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