JAG is host of new Julie's web site - JAG is not Consumer Reports anymore!

[hombre]

Originally posted by Ozzy
btw.... did you check out April's new girl? Marina i know you and i share very similar tastes in woman (especially when they be brazilian) and i'm really digging this new girl big time. i hear she has quite a reputation from some highly valued sources i know..... too bad i don't shit where i eat or i'd pop over and see her right now.

I know her; she's a real fave of mine from Gina's place. I wrote a long review of her ("Jocelyn") last Fall. Very nice, among my current favorites.

it's on the jag member board about 6 months back. i think rufus quoted it or the ghost of jag quoted it somewhere in this thread. basically MM called rufus a liar and said something about having to call the cops because he (rufus) supposedly made threats to MC/MM(?) ...among other things.

I dimly remember something like that a while back, but since I'm taking everything that goes on between current and former JAG management with a grain of salt -- and maybe more than a grain -- it didn't really register. Reading this thread, it sounded like an ongoing campaign currently in progress, and that just isn't the case.

The posts in question from JAG were copied here in this very thread by "Ghost of JAG" on 04-15-2002 11:16 PM.

Jeez, Rufus, you can't let guys tweak your nads like that. There's old shit floating around out there; it doesn't make sense to let it get to you just because someone decides to recycle an old post. I mean, that crap's from last July.

 

[justbill]

Is it just me or has this dead horse been beaten too long?

 

[justlooking]

To some, this is one incredibly important dead horse.

 

[Ozzy]

Originally posted by hombre


I know her; she's a real fave of mine from Gina's place. I wrote a long review of her ("Jocelyn") last Fall. Very nice, among my current favorites.

i know....... like i said, "i heard she had quite a reputation from some highly valued sources"


btw.... wasn't that the review in question that was mass e-mailed to everyone when jag was having a membership drive a few weeks ago?

 

[littleguy]

IS or WAS

Nobody any of you ex-Jagsters cares about is there anymore. You're all here. Why do you care so much what goes on over there ???

That's what I really don't get (among So many other things).

hombre,

That's what i was trying to say to Rufus earlier. That shit's from last July and it sounds like it's going on as we speak.

 

[justlooking]

Because UG will never be as good as JAG was.

 

[Rufus Moses]

It is ongoing...

JAG continues to have significant supply side conflicts of interest (see initial post in this thread)...

JAG continues to allow supply side access to the board...

JAG continues to lie to its members and possible new members about it...

Why isn't this an ongoing discussion on JAG? Because anyone who brings it up gets thrown off!

 

[hombre]

Originally posted by Ozzy
wasn't that the review in question that was mass e-mailed to everyone when jag was having a membership drive a few weeks ago?

I think the one in the mailing was for Jaqueline, another girl at the same place.

 

[Bill Furniture]

Re: like a dog with a bone...... i'm not finished yet.

Originally posted by Ozzy
i saw a post on jags member board today from mandie by way of proxy (who's name i won't mention) to be posted on jag and TBD. so mandie apparently has Zero issue with her name being posted on TBD (since she requested it).

It was I, thank you

 

[Bill Furniture]

Originally posted by justlooking
Because UG will never be as good as JAG was.

Was that a poke at UG? If so, Slinky&Co are gonna be angry!

 

[Rufus Moses]

It is worth talking about now because JAG is as corrupt now as it was 6 months ago.

They continue to lie to prospective new members *now*.

Newbies deserve to be warned about bad providers and bad boards...even if it is old news to some of us.

Especially when the bad provider, or the bad board, is in a heavy marketing mode trying to pull in new marks...

Especially when there is even better new evidence that the provider, or board, is corrupt and unfair...

Especially when some folks act as if the provider, or board, treats clients fairly when it is plainly not the case at all...

 

[Rufus Moses]

And by the way...remember that this thread *was* started on the basis of totally new events...

The discovery that those banned from JAG were suddenly also banned from Julies site...

And the related discovery that JAG is apparently now hosting Julies site...

The fact that the folks banned from JAG are now banned from Julies as well says to me that *JAG* thinks dispute is very much ongoing indeed...

 

[Rufus Moses]

Finally...someone here has said that disputes between former and current operators of boards should be taken with grains of salt...

I am not asking anyone to merely take my word for any of this...you can look and think and decide for yourself...look over the first post again, and look over some of JAG's recruitment materials, and look over JAG's denials.

I think any reasonable person will have to conclude that JAG is in fact doing all of the things they have been accused of, and that they are happy to lie and lie as they deny and deny.

 

[Ozzy]

Originally posted by Bill Furniture


Was that a poke at UG? If so, Slinky&Co are gonna be angry!

it's not a poke, bill... it's like saying that the yankees of the 70's or 90's aren't as good as the yankees of the 20's or 50's.


that's how good jag was and why so many are pissed at what it's become.


btw.... i'm glad you mentioned it was you on that mandie post. still curious as to why TBD is ok to post her name and not UG, considering the reason rooster keeps giving is that UG is too public for her. so i'll ask again...... whats the difference between....UG or TBD.


oh, i almost forgot.....Rooster said mandie didn't want her name on TBD either. well at least thats what he says.


ok...it's only thursday and my business is done one day early.... think i'll go out and find some UTR chick to post about tomorrow.

 

[Aristotle]

"Department of Clarification"

Originally posted by Rufus Moses
It is worth talking about now because JAG is as corrupt now as it was 6 months ago./B]

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Or longer -- unless rufus still denies asking for discounts and freebies on the basis of being "a former Mad Chaos."

Fine.

Still, it might useful to point for the benefit of those who haven't a clue what this is all about that the JAG rufus claims to have twice "saved" bore little or no resemblance to what many of us here sometimes refer to as "the old JAG."

rufus's JAG -- parts of which can be seen in the JAG Archives -- was primarily a small group of low-rent whorehounds and flat-out perverts who traded stray bits of information in an obsessive quest for the cheapest possible wet place to put a penis. (In that, it bears a passing resemblance to littleguy and Bill Furniture's JAG.)

But it bore virtually *no* resemblance to the JAG where Mr Pitiful, slinkybender, hot4chicks, mack, tuanjim_99, guy catelli, JohnB, Zuggie, johnfrancis, hobbymaster, frog, speigal and even viagra vic posted hundreds of thousands of interesting words in the late 1990s.

(Indeed, rufus's JAG bore about about the same relationship to the JAG which the current Mad Chaos built and once absent-mindedly supervised as the McDonald brothers hamburger stand bore to Ray Kroc's corporation ten years later.)

(It's a poor simile -- but it has the *distinct virtue* of invoking a cheap hamburger.)

rufus got thrown off JAG for the same reason guy catelli did -- being more trouble than he was worth.

Of course, like guy -- whom he resembles more and more -- rufus would like us all to think it was because he was the voice of reason and integrity.

Unfortunately, like guy, he's merely another obsessive crank looking for the self-satisfaction of being thought a martyr.

It's a damn shame.

 

[Hotpuppy]

Originally posted by justlooking
To some, this is one incredibly important dead horse.

One dead horse here, another dead horse in the high end room, and a third dead horse on the latest CajunDawn soap opera thread. Could this be a record?
take care
HP( any more dead horses should go on the R.I.P. thread)

 

[Ozzy]

where is Zuggie these days.

and lets not forget john francis, hobbymaster, frog, speigal and of course viagra vic.

 

[Hotpuppy]

...and Seamus, who I will always be indebted to
hp

 

[Bill Furniture]

Originally posted by Ozzy

it's not a poke, bill... it's like saying that the yankees of the 70's or 90's aren't as good as the yankees of the 20's or 50's.

that's how good jag was and why so many are pissed at what it's become.

btw.... i'm glad you mentioned it was you on that mandie post. still curious as to why TBD is ok to post her name and not UG, considering the reason rooster keeps giving is that UG is too public for her. so i'll ask again...... whats the difference between....UG or TBD.

Oz, JAG must have been a helluva board.

There aren't that many UGers down in the Philly area...yet, so I wouldn't worry about it. TBD's been in Philly for a long time and she may have seen some people from there.

 

[Rufus Moses]

"Or longer -- unless rufus still denies asking for discounts and freebies on the basis of being "a former Mad Chaos."

Ari, I don't know where you got the above but it is simply not true. Ever. The *only* time I even mentioned JAG to anyone on the supply side was (1) after I was not MC anymore in order to (2) get screened for a first visit to Julies. The girl I wanted to see was already gone, I've never gone to Julies once, and in any case I was certainly not looking for a discount.

If you have any evidence that makes you think I abused my role as MC then by all means POST IT RIGHT HERE. I hope my charity is not misplaced when I say you have obviously been mislead by others with an agenda.

(2)

As for the relative quality of JAG old and new...you would be surprised to know that I helped the current MC for many months after the hand off. Many of the improvements made were my ideas or the result of our discussions. Of course JAG grew and improved...but much of that was due to the unique culture I and many others had a hand in helping to create. And, indeed, some of the people you list came on board while I was either the actual MC or otherwise still quite involved.

(3)

In any case your ad hominem attacks have no real content. Nothing you've said here undermines any of the information I posted at the start of this thread.

Fancy name calling is no substitute for facts and substance.

If you have something of actual relevance to this topic I'd love to see it.