How does one define cheating?

#42
A lot of the current American phylosophy oh relationships and marriage revolves around the woman being a princess and the man being a glorified financial provider or protector.

Men have to make the 1st move and pick whatever slack and baggage come with their "princess" and put in a pedestal.

Call me an asshole but seeing escorts or fwb seems far less complicated.

Relationships take up most of your free time and you get diminishing returns the more you get involved.

Unless you really want that sort of life for yourself it just aint worth it.
 
#43
A lot of the current American phylosophy oh relationships and marriage revolves around the woman being a princess and the man being a glorified financial provider or protector.

Men have to make the 1st move and pick whatever slack and baggage come with their "princess" and put in a pedestal.

Call me an asshole but seeing escorts or fwb seems far less complicated.

Relationships take up most of your free time and you get diminishing returns the more you get involved.

Unless you really want that sort of life for yourself it just aint worth it.
I agree to soe pont. If the man choses the right woman he puts on that pedestal things can work. I married y wife when she was 19 I was 30. She was placed on a small pedestal at first as the yers went on that pedestal got higher we are very happy she was open to suggestions on how to keep spice in the bedroom and we of course even had another woman join in a few times. I of course had a wandering eye but never acted on it. The only reason I go else where is due to her medical condition and of course as stated she knows but does not want to know when ,where, and who....
 
#44
A lot of the current American phylosophy oh relationships and marriage revolves around the woman being a princess and the man being a glorified financial provider or protector.

Men have to make the 1st move and pick whatever slack and baggage come with their "princess" and put in a pedestal.

Call me an asshole but seeing escorts or fwb seems far less complicated.

Relationships take up most of your free time and you get diminishing returns the more you get involved.

Unless you really want that sort of life for yourself it just aint worth it.
You sound bitter like you've been burned in a lot of relationships.

Is this why you prefer street walkers?
 
#45
I'll go first.
If your SO cuts you off from sex, uses sex as a weapon and you decide to go get it somewhere else it is not cheating.

If you have a healthy relationship and the other person is giving you sex but you have a wandering eye and can't keep your dick in your pants; that's cheating.

If you have a healthy relationship but your partner can't have sex for health reasons so you go get it somewhere else, that is NOT cheating.

Again, just my opinion.
I get the point. And I partially agree. If you’re in a relationship where you’re both doing your thing. And you’re sticking together for either the kids or financials. It’s really not cheating.

And if you’re significant other became disabled. Broken back, paralyzed for life level of disability. Where you can never have sex again. You need your need met. It’s not like she can hop in the car and find you. What she doesn’t know won’t hurt her. It’s not cheating.

On the other hand, if you’re significant other was slowly recovering from a devastating accident or disease, and you can’t hold out and keep your cock in your pant while she recovers. That’s cheating…….

I know I’m a scumbag . I know I’m a cheater. There’s absolutely no doubt in my mind. And I’m fine with it. I really do try to play it safe. So my guilt is minimal.
 
#46
So true Sophia. If it's just sex then it's not cheating. My situation is that my SO told me she is not interested in sex anymore due to menopause and told me to use my hand going forward. And this is why I do what I do
I understand what that feels like, that is why I do what I do. It prevents me from being angry at her. Because I think it’s pretty selfish to decide that my sex life should be over!
 
#47
There are two kinds of cheating. Emotional and Physical. In the end if you are doing either, its cheating no matter the circumstances. If your not being open with your SO on which void you are filling without them its cheating. We can sugarcoat it all day long. I also think each sex tends to cheat for different reasons. Men usually tend to cheat for physical reasons. Whether its lack of sex or lack of interest. Woman tend to cheat more when they are looking to fill that emotional void they are missing in their relationship.
 
#49
A lot of the current American phylosophy oh relationships and marriage revolves around the woman being a princess and the man being a glorified financial provider or protector.

Men have to make the 1st move and pick whatever slack and baggage come with their "princess" and put in a pedestal.

Call me an asshole but seeing escorts or fwb seems far less complicated.

Relationships take up most of your free time and you get diminishing returns the more you get involved.

Unless you really want that sort of life for yourself it just aint worth it.
How different sects can have wives and multiple sister wives I will never know
 
#52
Even when I had those 2 bad sessions on same day. I was smiling inside
Come to think of this, you are correct- Have had many a bad session and as angry as I get after leaving, knowing I just wasted $$, time, energy and a good nut- I’ll most likely get in the car, turn up the music and have a good laugh to myself-
 
#53
I had a SO that I lived with for 7 years. Although we did do the swinging scene (this was the early 80's) her only rule was no affairs as that was cheating. Seeing a prostitute was ok with her as long as I used a condom and as long as it didn't reduce my nightly service for her. She felt that wasn't cheating; she put in in the same category as getting a legit massage i.e., nothing personal — just something that I paid for and felt good. It was like going out to a restaurant instead of having a cooked meal (both she and I alternated cooking) at home.

God, I miss her!
 
#55
I understand what that feels like, that is why I do what I do. It prevents me from being angry at her. Because I think it’s pretty selfish to decide that my sex life should be over!
Agreed! I'm still young enough to have desires and wants..It's not like I havent tried with my SO.. Just got tired of the rejection all of the time.
 
#56
You sound bitter like you've been burned in a lot of relationships.

Is this why you prefer street walkers?
No preferende on provider types.

The couple short term GFs i had have shown me that I have better relationships with women as friends.

Maybe I have a 100% hit ratio with possessive and jelous women but I saw those red flags come up and I wasn't sticking around to find out how bad it could get.
 
#58
How different sects can have wives and multiple sister wives I will never know
Their culture usually treats women as property as opposed to human beings.
I am not saying these women are free from all the negative qualities that tend to make life impossible for a married man, but at the very least these harem husbands can tell them to fuck off when they get out of line.

And no, I am not necessarily looking for a 1950s type of marriage with a doormat of a wife. I just don't like how controlling women tend to become in the long run.

I am also just not ready to settle down with one partner as there at least dozens of women I would fuck every single day if given the chance.
 
#59
Their culture usually treats women as property as opposed to human beings.
I am not saying these women are free from all the negative qualities that tend to make life impossible for a married man, but at the very least these harem husbands can tell them to fuck off when they get out of line.

And no, I am not necessarily looking for a 1950s type of marriage with a doormat of a wife. I just don't like how controlling women tend to become in the long run.

I am also just not ready to settle down with one partner as there at least dozens of women I would fuck every single day if given the chance.
I was thinking about LDS community but ok
 
#60
Their culture usually treats women as property as opposed to human beings.
I am not saying these women are free from all the negative qualities that tend to make life impossible for a married man, but at the very least these harem husbands can tell them to fuck off when they get out of line.

And no, I am not necessarily looking for a 1950s type of marriage with a doormat of a wife. I just don't like how controlling women tend to become in the long run.

I am also just not ready to settle down with one partner as there at least dozens of women I would fuck every single day if given the chance.
Don’t wait too long after 40 you are less likely to get married. Married men live longer and have better sex lives.
 
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