How do you guys stop?

Dude. I just did that today. I had the serious urge for a taste test and said I'm running to the store and gas. Well I did do all that but first a pit stop. Went home with groceries like nothing happened. Fuck
I am older now and now it is becoming merely a hobby. I am no longer controlled by it. I do other things that hold my interest intensely and this hobby is there when I want to experiment. Don't get me wrong, it is still interesting but I have been involved in the hobby for over 40 years and in those 40 years most of the time it was not a hobby; it was a compulsive full-blown addiction that had me by the balls.

I almost left my wife for an AMP girl. Once sold my inheritance of jewelry, antique gold watches, gold chains to finance extra AMP visits. Totaled two cars making midnight runs. At one point, I had to do an AMP or two everyday. Made dates and weekends with the AMP girls and had short vacations with them. Was invited to AMP girl dinners and birthday bashes. Met and schooled their children. Helped and attended hearings and filled out documents for their immigration and their family's immigration, green cards and naturalization court hearings. Helped in their legal proceedings when they were arrested. Did their advertising. Was present during raids. brought them to doctors and hospitals. Opened an English school in a Flushing AMP where girls from the surrounding AMP's would attend my lectures and classes. Fed their children while they were in jail. And some things I must leave out as they are really too embarrassing to say even under my alias. Out of control beyond belief. Loved the decadent smell of an AMP. Got a rush just driving by one. The whole mystique of a new girl -- sold my soul to the devil -- and still stayed married and raised a family and was flawless in my profession. Well, I never let my profession falter because there would be no money for AMP's.

But now the crisis is over. It is just a hobby. I wish I could say that I used force of will to control it but that would be a hypocritical lie. "IT" had me and "IT" let go of me.

And its not like I lost my desire for sex. I can have a hard-on, notice it and move onto other business and the blood locked in the erection is made good use of somewhere else in my body, muscles for swimming or brain for concentration, work, and also meditation, prayer and qi-gong practices.

When I was young and even throughout my 50's, it was impossible to control. I always had a desire to be free from all addictions but at the same time could not give this one up cold turkey.

It was once described to me thus: "try to rip the skin off from the snake and it is impossible, without killing the snake. But in the right season, the snake quite naturally sheds that skin, revealing a new, moist, beautiful and vibrant new skin."

It just happens. Nothing lasts forever.

Certainly being honest to yourself and possibly writing and talking about it on a forum like this is quite helpful because your comrades usually will not judge you critically.

Be gentle with yourself because it is mostly nature expressing itself through you. If you could have given it up for the sake of your SO or whoever, you would have done so. It quite possibly has to be played out for a while until it no longer owns you and you can get a grip on it.

But in the meantime, while it has you, stay calm and focused and very conscious of the addiction without hating or blaming yourself. You are not bad for wanting sex with gorgeous women. It is a rather healthy natural impulse. While it has you, possibly "do it" but don't "overdo" it.

If you can, sometimes say "no" when you feel that your intuition is advising against it.

Peace and good luck, brothers. You will all succeed in enjoying your pleasures without being run by them.
 
I am older now and now it is becoming merely a hobby. I am no longer controlled by it. I do other things that hold my interest intensely and this hobby is there when I want to experiment. Don't get me wrong, it is still interesting but I have been involved in the hobby for over 40 years and in those 40 years most of the time it was not a hobby; it was a compulsive full-blown addiction that had me by the balls.

I almost left my wife for an AMP girl. Once sold my inheritance of jewelry, antique gold watches, gold chains to finance extra AMP visits. Totaled two cars making midnight runs. At one point, I had to do an AMP or two everyday. Made dates and weekends with the AMP girls and had short vacations with them. Was invited to AMP girl dinners and birthday bashes. Met and schooled their children. Helped and attended hearings and filled out documents for their immigration and their family's immigration, green cards and naturalization court hearings. Helped in their legal proceedings when they were arrested. Did their advertising. Was present during raids. brought them to doctors and hospitals. Opened an English school in a Flushing AMP where girls from the surrounding AMP's would attend my lectures and classes. Fed their children while they were in jail. And some things I must leave out as they are really too embarrassing to say even under my alias. Out of control beyond belief. Loved the decadent smell of an AMP. Got a rush just driving by one. The whole mystique of a new girl -- sold my soul to the devil -- and still stayed married and raised a family and was flawless in my profession. Well, I never let my profession falter because there would be no money for AMP's.

But now the crisis is over. It is just a hobby. I wish I could say that I used force of will to control it but that would be a hypocritical lie. "IT" had me and "IT" let go of me.

And its not like I lost my desire for sex. I can have a hard-on, notice it and move onto other business and the blood locked in the erection is made good use of somewhere else in my body, muscles for swimming or brain for concentration, work, and also meditation, prayer and qi-gong practices.

When I was young and even throughout my 50's, it was impossible to control. I always had a desire to be free from all addictions but at the same time could not give this one up cold turkey.

It was once described to me thus: "try to rip the skin off from the snake and it is impossible, without killing the snake. But in the right season, the snake quite naturally sheds that skin, revealing a new, moist, beautiful and vibrant new skin."

It just happens. Nothing lasts forever.

Certainly being honest to yourself and possibly writing and talking about it on a forum like this is quite helpful because your comrades usually will not judge you critically.

Be gentle with yourself because it is mostly nature expressing itself through you. If you could have given it up for the sake of your SO or whoever, you would have done so. It quite possibly has to be played out for a while until it no longer owns you and you can get a grip on it.

But in the meantime, while it has you, stay calm and focused and very conscious of the addiction without hating or blaming yourself. You are not bad for wanting sex with gorgeous women. It is a rather healthy natural impulse. While it has you, possibly "do it" but don't "overdo" it.

If you can, sometimes say "no" when you feel that your intuition is advising against it.

Peace and good luck, brothers. You will all succeed in enjoying your pleasures without being run by them.
I'm 58, so maybe there's yet hope for me. Since I "quit" maybe five weeks ago, I've gone three times. I've stopped smoking weed which has cut back the frequency of my urges to visit amps. My assumption had been that weed was lowering my inhibitions and improving the sex. Maybe that was true but these last three visits have been disturbingly exciting. I was more present, focused and performed better. It was less about self-obliterating and more about getting my needs met. I thought trying some of the Chinese places on NYincall might be a bandaid, saving money and providing novelty but I struck out. For the women I contacted, not being Chinese turned out to be insurmountable. One positive result of not smoking any longer is that I have better focus in everything else I do. Cutting back on the spa visits has also revived my interest in Asian porn. I have a voluminous collection that I don't even wank to which I did in the past. I just enjoy the JAV world. Crazy as it sounds, it feels like home. I know the feeling you describe of loving AMPs. I also feel like I've come home when I smell the freshly laundered towels. It's my safe place. I need to accept these aspects of my personality which isn't about to change at 58. I'm hoping that the newly found energy of weedless life will help me focus in other areas. Before I discovered the depth and intensity of experiences offered at the right AMPs, I was ok with a nice massage and HE. That was my fix for a job I disliked. My passion and creativity were sublimated into a hobby that got me a modest but still real degree of recognition. But then I became an AMP connoisseur. I'm reminded of certain friends who are real foodies with great palates. But they're also obese to the point where one call tell that food represents something different for them than it does for me. I need to be more than a monger for the rest of my life.
 
No disrespect intended. But, some of you are really dumb. Haha.
Lots of disrespect intended, otherwise no need for the "Haha" but no offence taken.

I've found friends, acquaintances and colleagues making shit storms of their lives in other ways. I don't judge them since I have my own skeletons in the closet. Perhaps, @Hollander, you've heard the saying "Homo sum, humani nihil a me alienum puto". ("I am human, and I think nothing human is alien to me.") It would be hypocritical of me to think less of you for the company you choose to keep on this forum.
 
Sounds like a complete sucker. Thinking these amp girls actually like you. They got everything they wanted out of you for free. And you paid them for what you "wanted / needed". You got taken by trained professionals. You sugar coat it nicely though.
The story I told was not sugar-coated nor sweet. It is a sad story of addiction. This world offers many addictions. That was mine. I acted out the role of an AMP-addict because I could not resist it. I TRIED TO RESIST IT. In my 8 years of abstinence, AMP dreams occupied my consciousness during my nighttime sleeping periods. So, I broke my abstinence and it mushroomed and I made up for the 8 years abstinence and then some. I played it out and lived and breathed it fully and completely and now it is over. I understand the addiction fully because I lived it so deeply on every level. I had the keys to the stores and understood the lease agreements and all which I described previously. I was even tempted at one point and approached to open a store.

It is unlike the common modern day model of addiction where an alcohol addict always remains an alcoholic and can never again have that one drink because it may lead to a full-blown addiction again. He is not really cured.

But I consider myself cured of the addiction. I am glad that I did not just leave it there or resist it. I lived it and it is over. AMP's are no longer mystical wonderlands. Asian girls are still beautiful to me but I realize their time and place and inability to provide the deep satisfaction that I need on a permanent basis.

So, I invested a part of my life into the addiction process and I lived and learned and it is over. No regrets. Many smiles and happy times. Never felt duped. I offered myself to it quite freely and voluntarily.

Also made lasting friends of many whom I have not patronized in years and some still contact me oftentimes daily. Probably because I never abused any of them and never felt taken advantage of by any of them. That was just the arena that I chose to play out the addiction in. I played it out fully, intentionally, deliberately and sincerely. Every book has a beginning, middle and end. I have reached the end. Maybe not a best-seller but it has a "happy ending."

I am satisfied.
 
Triggers vary per person.

A big part of beating an addiction is recognizing what triggers the behavior in the first place. It seems like you have done that. If you don't want to see providers as much, maybe you should strongly consider smoking less weed or giving it up all together.
I've given it up for circa six weeks and feel much more present in daily life. I still want to see providers but not at the drop of a hat. The handful of visits I've had off weed have actually been better than before. Progress, I think.
 
I just cannot get behind the idea that my hobby is an Addiction.

Psychologists will tell you that "Addiction" is:

A CONTINUED PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES.

To be sure, there ARE "Sex Addicts" and SOME are hobbyists, but certainly not ALL.

Human touch is a NEED. Nothing wrong with viewing it as a Commodity.
If Jesus threw the Prostitutes out of the Temple, we can be 100% certain this behavior is 2000 years old.
Probably a great deal older. Not all that different than being a "time-share wife"
(As a Single man, my attitude is understandably different than an aging, unattractive wife.)

They took Soma, drank Wine, Gambled, had Sex, for as long as there has been written history.
Making laws against any of these NORMAL behaviors is merely inflating arrest records.
Police should prioritize Criminals that HURT people....Murderers, Rapists, Armed Robbers...
not the teenager smoking a joint, or the Single Mother supplementing her income.

My Wife is in Heaven, but if anyone asked her, she would WANT me to enjoy myself!
Hell, if she were alive, she would WANT me to enjoy myself. We had a GOOD marriage!
 
Anyone tired of this stuff like I am? I always tell myself I'm done with this crap, and find myself sucked back in every time. Whether it's the thrill, newness, adventure...I always end up back in the game. Anyone successful at staying away, what makes you able to? I feel like I have more to lose than this is worth, and risky behaviors are easy when I'm with a provider. I'm not looking for meetings just sound advise.....
I want to thank KEEPITCOVERED for starting a thread that allowed me and others to do some soul-searching and while maybe not completely giving up the hobby but certainly restoring balance and perspective. This thread has assisted me in an immeasurable way and never would I have had the courage nor desire nor mindfulness to address the subject on my own. It seemed like too big of an issue for my psyche to handle at that time. It suddenly became a reality when this gentleman brought it to conscious awareness for me and I was able to examine it in my own life. I first defended it by giving lengthy discourses on the 4 primal urges, sex, food, sleep, self-preservation as reasons for its ability to own me. And after the thread progressed, it came to light that I could own the whole AMP thing and not have it own me.
And I thank KEEPITCOVERED for his great contribution.
 
I've given it up for circa six weeks and feel much more present in daily life. I still want to see providers but not at the drop of a hat. The handful of visits I've had off weed have actually been better than before. Progress, I think.
"Big time progress," and more amazingly, you took the bull by the horns all by yourself and conquered weed and AMP'S in one fell swoop. And now you can enjoy both as a master and not as a slave. Now, that is the kind of "balls" that made America great.

Please indulge this sentimental fool one more time.

"General George Washington gathers a bunch of farmers and wages war on the greatest army and conquerors of the time, Great Britain. To inspire his fledgling band of vagabonds that he addressed as his infantry, he mounted his horse and rode high in the saddle across the field in full view and gun range of "the red coats." They fired away at GW and General Washington emerged unscathed. But when his foot soldiers got a whiff of what their leader was made of, they were inspired to fight with the same bravery ."

Now, maybe I am pressing my luck with this kind of post and there probably isn't a strong analogy between mongering in AMP's and weed versus The American Revolutionary War but to me, inspiration, courage and the willingness to carry out a plan that is difficult are commendable qualities that can be applied in any situation.

To be a winner is to be a winner.
 
Triggers vary per person.

A big part of beating an addiction is recognizing what triggers the behavior in the first place. It seems like you have done that. If you don't want to see providers as much, maybe you should strongly consider smoking less weed or giving it up all together.
Maybe Jerk it more so the urge subsides.
 
Mugi I appreciate your thanks. I really didn't do anything special, or that I was afraid to do. I'm older (mid 50's) and been in here since 2005. It's really an issue about as to how I feel, and I was curious if I wasn't alone. I'm glad it's turned into a somewhat helpful topic for many. I'm glad to contribute when I feel like I can. I try not to get caught up in too much drama in here as well.
 
A reply to the thread question "How do you guys stop?" I can't! That Is the problem lol
I understand. So, don't stop. Just enjoy it and be very conscious and careful.

Don't treat every visit like an "assembly line" automatic repeat sequel. Try and raise your level of awareness and don't be only aware of your "Johnson."

Be super aware of where you are and the sights and sounds of the room and get into her mood and study everything about your mood and understand her intension and your intension and take in every nuance and feeling and thought and sound of the entire delightful experience.

Sometimes it remains an addiction because we failed to experience it completely and we have to repeat because we unsatisfactorily engaged while some other emotion was running us, for example: fear of SO, LE, camera, performance issues, et cetera. Awareness is the key to life.

Cold turkey and restraint sometimes adds fuel to the fire. I stopped for 8 years and returned like a maniac. The forced restraint damaged me to this day in ways that I don't care to express.

Upsetting the flow of nature is a crime not punishable by civil law but a law enforced by a much more powerful entity, Mother Nature.

Also depends on your age. If you are super virile and not even using Viagra, Cialis or the like and are a true fountain of sperm, then to resist nature is possibly injurious to you body and psyche. Enjoy every season of your life.

Don't be too judgmental on yourself. If you are still loving it, then do it with perfection safely. Never allow anybody or anything to rush you. Just always be aware and use your "spidey-sense" and become a master of the whole affair.

This kind of positive awareness will carry over into everything else you do. Love yourself and love the experience.

Give a child all the ice cream he or she wants and eventually he/she had enough and it is time to move on to a more interesting game.

There is no bad. Don't resist but be aware.

You might suddenly find yourself cutting back gradually, only because the visits you made were extremely rich and satisfying or its also possible that you were so aware to experience a level of extreme disgust.
 
I understand. So, don't stop. Just enjoy it and be very conscious and careful.

Don't treat every visit like an "assembly line" automatic repeat sequel. Try and raise your level of awareness and don't be only aware of your "Johnson."

Be super aware of where you are and the sights and sounds of the room and get into her mood and study everything about your mood and understand her intension and your intension and take in every nuance and feeling and thought and sound of the entire delightful experience.

Sometimes it remains an addiction because we failed to experience it completely and we have to repeat because we unsatisfactorily engaged while some other emotion was running us, for example: fear of SO, LE, camera, performance issues, et cetera. Awareness is the key to life.

Cold turkey and restraint sometimes adds fuel to the fire. I stopped for 8 years and returned like a maniac. The forced restraint damaged me to this day in ways that I don't care to express.

Upsetting the flow of nature is a crime not punishable by civil law but a law enforced by a much more powerful entity, Mother Nature.

Also depends on your age. If you are super virile and not even using Viagra, Cialis or the like and are a true fountain of sperm, then to resist nature is possibly injurious to you body and psyche. Enjoy every season of your life.

Don't be too judgmental on yourself. If you are still loving it, then do it with perfection safely. Never allow anybody or anything to rush you. Just always be aware and use your "spidey-sense" and become a master of the whole affair.

This kind of positive awareness will carry over into everything else you do. Love yourself and love the experience.

Give a child all the ice cream he or she wants and eventually he/she had enough and it is time to move on to a more interesting game.

There is no bad. Don't resist but be aware.

You might suddenly find yourself cutting back gradually, only because the visits you made were extremely rich and satisfying or its also possible that you were so aware to experience a level of extreme disgust.
Thanks! You make alot of interesting points
 
I just cannot get behind the idea that my hobby is an Addiction.

Psychologists will tell you that "Addiction" is:
A CONTINUED PATTERN OF BEHAVIOR, DESPITE ADVERSE CONSEQUENCES.
To be sure, there ARE "Sex Addicts" and SOME are hobbyists, but certainly not ALL.
Can't disagree with this. I think that this thread has brought out members who are, to some degree, conflicted about what we do but that doesn't mean that everyone is. One person can see what they do as a hobby, another as a lifestyle, a third as an addiction. And as I'm learning here, it can even be all of those things over the course of a lifetime.
 
Maybe Jerk it more so the urge subsides.
That works on a temporary basis. When I get texted by providers and have already jerked off, I smile ruefully and think about money saved. But there's another issue. Martin Amis described it perfectly in one of his novels where the narrator observes that wanking for the sake of wanking, is sublime. But wanking as a substitute for fucking is pathetic. It's one thing when you're a teenager but obviously different when you're older and aware of all the possibilities in interacting with another person.
 
"Big time progress," and more amazingly, you took the bull by the horns all by yourself and conquered weed and AMP'S in one fell swoop. And now you can enjoy both as a master and not as a slave. Now, that is the kind of "balls" that made America great.
Thanks, @mugi, this is very much a work in progress. I still have a way to go.
 
Can't disagree with this. I think that this thread has brought out members who are, to some degree, conflicted about what we do but that doesn't mean that everyone is. One person can see what they do as a hobby, another as a lifestyle, a third as an addiction. And as I'm learning here, it can even be all of those things over the course of a lifetime.
The pros that text you though. I got 3 or 4 pros that text me and I haven't seen em in 4 mos. Idk how to feel about it. I get being upset when you have a SO and get that text.

My girl doesn't look at my phone though.
 
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