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Originally posted by Cat_Ballou
I've felt more dehumanized and under-valued in most of the corporate jobs that I've had than in sex work. And while there are certainly assholes in this world who will attempt to make you feel bad about yourself -- in fact, feel entitled to do so -- at least in sex work, you can refuse to book another session with him; his corporate doppelganger signs your check and your annual performance review.
I've felt more dehumanized and under-valued in most of the corporate jobs that I've had than in sex work. And while there are certainly assholes in this world who will attempt to make you feel bad about yourself -- in fact, feel entitled to do so -- at least in sex work, you can refuse to book another session with him; his corporate doppelganger signs your check and your annual performance review.
Guys on whoreboards are always talking about how they are the customer and as customer, the experience is all for them and their enjoyment. That may be true, but the lady makes all the rules, so she is in charge.
I've had a similar experience in my professional life. I've worked for corporations and big consulting firms doing virtually the same stuff I do now. But, I'm much more satisfied with my life now, because I get to pick and choose who I want to work with. I've fired more prospects and clients than I can count. It is no fun to work with assholes.
p.s. Oops, I forgot. This is a serious comment.
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Originally posted by Wwanderer
Imo, ther reason that people see commercial sexual transactions as so different from other types of commercial transactions is most often rooted in hang-ups about sex, in feelings that one somehow does not deserve sexual gratification unless one loves and is loved, not about using other people for gratification (something that happens all the time in many different contexts).
Imo, ther reason that people see commercial sexual transactions as so different from other types of commercial transactions is most often rooted in hang-ups about sex, in feelings that one somehow does not deserve sexual gratification unless one loves and is loved, not about using other people for gratification (something that happens all the time in many different contexts).
Originally posted by Cat_Ballou
JL, I think you've just achieved Nirvana, total One-ness with the Universe. Or at least, One-ness with Wwanderer...
JL, I think you've just achieved Nirvana, total One-ness with the Universe. Or at least, One-ness with Wwanderer...
"Suffering alone exists, none who suffer;
The deed there is, but no doer thereof;
Nirvana is, but no one seeking it;
The Path there is, but none who travel it."
- The Visuddhimagga (16)
-Ww
Originally posted by pjorourke
Contrast that with your sex work where your work is less "respectable" (per society at large), but you make all the decisions. You have control of your life.
Contrast that with your sex work where your work is less "respectable" (per society at large), but you make all the decisions. You have control of your life.
-Ww
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Originally posted by Wwanderer
The above is a pretty good candidate for the single most unexpected thought I have ever encountered online or elsewhere...
"Suffering alone exists, none who suffer;
The deed there is, but no doer thereof;
Nirvana is, but no one seeking it;
The Path there is, but none who travel it."
- The Visuddhimagga (16)
-Ww
The above is a pretty good candidate for the single most unexpected thought I have ever encountered online or elsewhere...
"Suffering alone exists, none who suffer;
The deed there is, but no doer thereof;
Nirvana is, but no one seeking it;
The Path there is, but none who travel it."
- The Visuddhimagga (16)
-Ww
Originally posted by Wwanderer
Imo, PJ is dead on target here. A lot of people, men and women, cannot see prostitution as anything but degrading and immoral, or at least as an unpleasant and undesirable way to make a living. But it is my impression that a woman who gets past the cultural stigmatizations and conditioning re selling sex can sometimes find power, independence and freedom (not to mention wealth) which is unrivaled by any other option that is open to her. This is not so common imo, but I have met quite a number of examples in my hobbying career.
-Ww
Imo, PJ is dead on target here. A lot of people, men and women, cannot see prostitution as anything but degrading and immoral, or at least as an unpleasant and undesirable way to make a living. But it is my impression that a woman who gets past the cultural stigmatizations and conditioning re selling sex can sometimes find power, independence and freedom (not to mention wealth) which is unrivaled by any other option that is open to her. This is not so common imo, but I have met quite a number of examples in my hobbying career.
-Ww
Originally posted by John75
is there a way to lock this topic out? it is way off topic and becoming an 11page bore -- hopefully the moderator will take care of this.
is there a way to lock this topic out? it is way off topic and becoming an 11page bore -- hopefully the moderator will take care of this.
I'm as big a fan of thread drift and general discussion (and as much an un-fan of "Greek In New Jersey" posts) as anyone.
But there's some prudence in:
(Obviously in this case the drift isn't Off-Topic.)
But there's some prudence in:
Originally posted by paulie_walnuts
As interesting as this and any number of other drifting threads are...and I've been as guilty as anyone...my sense is that maybe a dozen people are just talking (a lot!) about random topics in random locations. It's a bit rude to the 15,000 lurkers who likely don't want to read every single word here and would like to be able to use thread topics to find the info they need.
After a few drifted posts folks should have the good manners to start a new thread (most likely in the off-topic section) and invite everyone to continue over there.
As interesting as this and any number of other drifting threads are...and I've been as guilty as anyone...my sense is that maybe a dozen people are just talking (a lot!) about random topics in random locations. It's a bit rude to the 15,000 lurkers who likely don't want to read every single word here and would like to be able to use thread topics to find the info they need.
After a few drifted posts folks should have the good manners to start a new thread (most likely in the off-topic section) and invite everyone to continue over there.
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understand that it's a few of the similar pseudo intelligent , multilple k posted members who love to pontificate about thier superior vocabulary and/or wisdom and experiance. This is where they vent because no human in thier right mind would audibly listen to thier gibberish for more than 3 minutes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
Originally posted by sininnyc
understand that it's a few of the similar pseudo intelligent , multilple k posted members who love to pontificate about thier superior vocabulary and/or wisdom and experiance. This is where they vent because no human in thier right mind would audibly listen to thier gibberish for more than 3 minutes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
understand that it's a few of the similar pseudo intelligent , multilple k posted members who love to pontificate about thier superior vocabulary and/or wisdom and experiance. This is where they vent because no human in thier right mind would audibly listen to thier gibberish for more than 3 minutes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
Listen, I'm sympathetic to issues of thread drift, and I'm willing to follow the game plan, but worrying about 15,000 people who refuse to participate in the conversation is just not a challenge I'm willing to take on, nor do I see why I should feel responsible for whether their needs are met or not. You don't like they way things are happening? Get off your ass and do something about it, don't say "Gee, I hope the moderator takes care of it" and whine at people simply because you don't have anything to contribute to what they're talking about...
Hell, start your own thread and police it like the nation's security depends on it, if you're that bothered...
Originally posted by pswope
While I agree with you, in my 20 something years of commercial sex I have met maybe 2 handfuls of working girls,who were together enuf to use commercial sex as a vehicle of empowerment as opposed to one of enduring harm.
While I agree with you, in my 20 something years of commercial sex I have met maybe 2 handfuls of working girls,who were together enuf to use commercial sex as a vehicle of empowerment as opposed to one of enduring harm.
-Ww
Originally posted by John75
is there a way to lock this topic out? it is way off topic and becoming an 11page bore -- hopefully the moderator will take care of this.
is there a way to lock this topic out? it is way off topic and becoming an 11page bore -- hopefully the moderator will take care of this.
Originally posted by sininnyc
understand that it's a few of the similar pseudo intelligent , multilple k posted members who love to pontificate about thier superior vocabulary and/or wisdom and experiance. This is where they vent because no human in thier right mind would audibly listen to thier gibberish for more than 3 minutes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
understand that it's a few of the similar pseudo intelligent , multilple k posted members who love to pontificate about thier superior vocabulary and/or wisdom and experiance. This is where they vent because no human in thier right mind would audibly listen to thier gibberish for more than 3 minutes.
I have been on this board for about 4 months, and they do it on other threads as well. Think about thier place in this world, and be grateful your not in thier shoes.
And, fwiiw, the idea of trying to take into account the interests of lurkers is way too hypothetical for me. They can be imagined to like or dislike anything at all, and of course they too have the option of not reading what does not interest or please them.
-Ww
Originally posted by Wwanderer
The things that always astonish me about posts such as these are 1) that anyone imagines that such complaints will have any effect at all on other participants' posting habits and 2) that it does not seem to occur to those who do not like certan posters or types of threads or whatever that they can simply refrain from reading the offending material.
And, fwiiw, the idea of trying to take into account the interests of lurkers is way too hypothetical for me. They can be imagined to like or dislike anything at all, and of course they too have the option of not reading what does not interest or please them.
-Ww
The things that always astonish me about posts such as these are 1) that anyone imagines that such complaints will have any effect at all on other participants' posting habits and 2) that it does not seem to occur to those who do not like certan posters or types of threads or whatever that they can simply refrain from reading the offending material.
And, fwiiw, the idea of trying to take into account the interests of lurkers is way too hypothetical for me. They can be imagined to like or dislike anything at all, and of course they too have the option of not reading what does not interest or please them.
-Ww