Thanks Billy a little feed back sometimes is good. Just so you all know I did not strat this thread, I logged on and found it here and I guess because it was moved from the orginal thread and my post was the cut off it falls to me. All I wanted was to be the voice of reason and get back to just having some fun. Differing opinons is what our freedom of speech is all about and I enjoy the banther, but it is more fun to be forced to think at a higher level than turn to name calling. There are severel posters here that I have locked horns with so to speak in a couple of different forums, I have no bad feeling for them or from them and if I met any of them in the real world I would still be honored to have a drink with them. I am not sure what the purpose of this thread is but if the infighting and back biting stops than I guess it has served it's purpose.