for the type of place this is, the neighbourhood it's in, and the mediocrity of the women and service, the prices should be half what they ask. negotiate hard and don't pay anything close to list and you should be okay. else find the scores of so many other places listed on this board. the area doesn't seem very safe as well, especially around dark. if everyone negotiates down, maybe they will price to a more realistic recession price of 2009.
good luck.
you nailed it MN.
i was discussing this last week with another member here.
its a YMMV place and there is a wide range of pricing here.
the range seems to be 60/90 for option 1 and 100/150 for full rides.
the problem is that mamasan is greedy and takes cut from the girls.
if we all worked on this, I think we could drive prices down by a third or so.
lets stick to our guns here .. it might just work.
i brought a buddy here recently and mamasan was quite cordial ... so maybe i can catch here ear so to speak. lol.
here is another hint for repeats ...request the back room ... its much more private.