How do you guys stop?

[mugi]

I understand, thanks for the insight

From reading so much here and understanding my own body/mind/emotional-sexual composition, I am seeing more and more how totally unique everybody is.

For myself, just a bit of real ginseng root or epimedium leaf (horny goat weed) or even maca or psoralea or Cherokee rose or cordyceps... or many others -- or even just a lot of Quaker oats, buckwheat --- and the ridiculous "fava beans" -- a little bit of any one of those herbs or even just a really thick pasty gruel of grain powders and bean and seed powders, just really seems to fatten up my member where he is ready for anything no matter what.

I mean for me it is all about the organ and really less to do with the mental emotional stimulation. For me it is truly about the nutritional build-up desiring to do its job. Of course, I would prefer to do "my job" on something that is sexy and delicious but that is still only about 10 percent of the equation.

I might drink but never too much anymore. I could see too much scotch putting my sexual game off to the point where it just becomes a semen load dump. And for me now I like to connoisseur her every movement and every angle and watch and enjoy her femininity ooze out and be super-vigilant and aware. So, too much booze gets in the way of the "paying-close attention to her" and also to my own body-mind-emotions.

I never tried the chemicals V or C and I don't even use the extracted herbal pills as I consider them much closer to a chemical than a natural food product with strong sexual stimulation effects.

Hey, I am sure that some of it is the placebo effect. Who knows? Many times before I go into the ring, I reassure myself that I had my Wheaties and I am good to go no matter what I am facing. Even if she adds a friend or two, me and junior as a team are "in to win." (I am at around the 60 mark)

But some of you guys are of another ilk. It seems more of a visual stimulation or thought-provoked or emotion-driven. These days it is a lot of V & C. I can understand the V & C as it is widely accepted and is considered a wonder-drug. But when it came out, I was still young and never had a need for it but I always watched the effects of food and then one day an herbalist gave me some herbs to boil for a sore back and the back pain was gone and my boy between my legs had a noticeable heavier, plumper, meaner more savage desire to do some heavy combat. So, I started to study and boil herbs and seeds, make mistakes, buy more and read and develop my own formulas for only my particular body that just keeps junior always ready to pounce without taking too much where he is forced to make a desperate dump.

As I see here, so many unique personalities. Believe it or not I was at one time long ago living amongst monks and I was living a life of celibacy and that also figures into my own approach which I know is a bit odd. But we are what we are because of our unique set of circumstances and experiences, DNA, body type, nationality, belief system, et cetera.

I really get an education by what is shared here and then I realize that this all doesn't belong in "how to stop."

 

[Uniquelyme]

From reading so much here and understanding my own body/mind/emotional-sexual composition, I am seeing more and more how totally unique everybody is.

For myself, just a bit of real ginseng root or epimedium leaf (horny goat weed) or even maca or psoralea or Cherokee rose or cordyceps... or many others -- or even just a lot of Quaker oats, buckwheat --- and the ridiculous "fava beans" -- a little bit of any one of those herbs or even just a really thick pasty gruel of grain powders and bean and seed powders, just really seems to fatten up my member where he is ready for anything no matter what.

I mean for me it is all about the organ and really less to do with the mental emotional stimulation. For me it is truly about the nutritional build-up desiring to do its job. Of course, I would prefer to do "my job" on something that is sexy and delicious but that is still only about 10 percent of the equation.

I might drink but never too much anymore. I could see too much scotch putting my sexual game off to the point where it just becomes a semen load dump. And for me now I like to connoisseur her every movement and every angle and watch and enjoy her femininity ooze out and be super-vigilant and aware. So, too much booze gets in the way of the "paying-close attention to her" and also to my own body-mind-emotions.

I never tried the chemicals V or C and I don't even use the extracted herbal pills as I consider them much closer to a chemical than a natural food product with strong sexual stimulation effects.

Hey, I am sure that some of it is the placebo effect. Who knows? Many times before I go into the ring, I reassure myself that I had my Wheaties and I am good to go no matter what I am facing. Even if she adds a friend or two, me and junior as a team are "in to win." (I am at around the 60 mark)

But some of you guys are of another ilk. It seems more of a visual stimulation or thought-provoked or emotion-driven. These days it is a lot of V & C. I can understand the V & C as it is widely accepted and is considered a wonder-drug. But when it came out, I was still young and never had a need for it but I always watched the effects of food and then one day an herbalist gave me some herbs to boil for a sore back and the back pain was gone and my boy between my legs had a noticeable heavier, plumper, meaner more savage desire to do some heavy combat. So, I started to study and boil herbs and seeds, make mistakes, buy more and read and develop my own formulas for only my particular body that just keeps junior always ready to pounce without taking too much where he is forced to make a desperate dump.

As I see here, so many unique personalities. Believe it or not I was at one time long ago living amongst monks and I was living a life of celibacy and that also figures into my own approach which I know is a bit odd. But we are what we are because of our unique set of circumstances and experiences, DNA, body type, nationality, belief system, et cetera.

I really get an education by what is shared here and then I realize that this all doesn't belong in "how to stop."

I'll say it again Avocado's, avocado's avocado's. I always would eat one or two before a session, pork helps too and cherries. Oysters and other seafood. Get some exercise to make that blood flow better and most don't need V or C.

 

[mugi]

I'll say it again Avocado's, avocado's avocado's. I always would eat one or two before a session, pork helps too and cherries. Oysters and other seafood. Get some exercise to make that blood flow better and most don't need V or C.

Nice.

Oysters are the all-time classic. Oysters were the breakfast of the man enshrined in the Mongers Hall of Fame, Casanova. Oysters have a ton of zinc which is essential for testosterone production.

Also, try a cup of POM (very good quality) (sold in Costco) pomegranate juice. When I am in the US, I have about 3 ounces as a nightcap. Junior absorbs his precious nutrients all night and wakes up very spunky, indeed. Pomegranate is also very good for the prostate gland to lower PSA and fight off cancer cells. Pomegranate is a good anti-inflammatory, loaded with nutrition and is known to prevent erectile dysfunction.

But there are lots of really healthy foods to keep not only junior happy but to maintain your entire body's health and vigor. (thank you, Uniquelyme. I never really experimented with avacados. I will in the future)

 

[Uniquelyme]

Nice.

Oysters are the all-time classic. Oysters were the breakfast of the man enshrined in the Mongers Hall of Fame, Casanova. Oysters have a ton of zinc which is essential for testosterone production.

Also, try a cup of POM (very good quality) (sold in Costco) pomegranate juice. When I am in the US, I have about 3 ounces as a nightcap. Junior absorbs his precious nutrients all night and wakes up very spunky, indeed. Pomegranate is also very good for the prostate gland to lower PSA and fight off cancer cells. Pomegranate is a good anti-inflammatory, loaded with nutrition and is known to prevent erectile dysfunction.

But there are lots of really healthy foods to keep not only junior happy but to maintain your entire body's health and vigor. (thank you, Uniquelyme. I never really experimented with avacados. I will in the future)

• Avocado: Mayans and Aztecs believed in the power of avocados to increase libido, and the fruit is still used today as a natural cure for erectile dysfunction.

 

[clicker2659]

time for some avocados? LOL

 

[mugi]

time for some avocados? LOL

or better yet, guacamole with some tortilla chips, and bring a date!!!!!!!

 

[LorenzoDeMedici]

Soooooooo this has gone from "How do we Stop?" to
How do we keep Going? & Going & Going & Going & Going

 

[genius]

Soooooooo this has gone from "How do we Stop?" to
View attachment 5281 How do we keep Going? & Going & Going & Going & Going

Yup, as I posted near the beginning of this thread: "You don't".

 

[mugi]

Like any thread it has its twists and turns and leads to something else and then branches off and splits and turns and goes back to its source and then dissolves and reemerges and evaporates as mist and rains down again to start the process all over again. (WTF did I just say?)

Let me try again from my own perspective and experience. Because it did have its start somewhere in every mongers' experience and even before your first visit (think back to your first visit) there was a desire to see one of these ladies that your heard about.

Where did it all begin and how did I come to this point?

I heard about them from a large family of monger uncles. They used to all go out on a Saturday night and even brought their sons when they became of age as a "right of passage."

They were ballsy guys with degraded humor and my mother told me to close my ears while she listened to them and laughed as her brothers gathered around the table, drank coffee and talked of their many exploits

It sounded so Goddamned interesting. I eventually tried it because of the noncommittal aspect of it. I mean you go with a civilian and she is yours and its a lot to carry around with you if you are not in the mood to carry the weight of responsibility.

So these gals are very interesting and get right to the point and come in all shapes and sizes and all varieties and offer seemingly endless erotic experiences.

And that is all fine for however long you want it. But there does come a time when, like the monger who started this thread stops and takes stock and contemplates and for whatever reason, its just not as appealing as it once was, loss of money maybe, loss of time, realizes the merry-go-round of it all and wants to get off and walk straight for a while.

I was once absolutely "owned" by it. It became my "life's work." That is over. I was a slave to it. Who wants to be a slave?

From the habit of being "owned" by it, I still visit it but far less and my visits are far more high quality. There is more prep time and I am clear what I want to accomplish by my visit, making sure my member is battle-ready to stay in there for a long drawn-out very interesting sparring session. There is still a lot to learn and see from her if you remain very strong and very conscious.

But mere habitual quick shots night and day, I can't really keep up with anymore.

Now, I focus and enjoy every nuance of the encounter and it is a much richer and fulfilling experience that lingers with energy long after even the thoughts of the encounter subside.

Your life has many aspects, interests, concerns, obligations. This hobby should be put in perspective.

There was a time long ago that I took too many off the shelf sex stimulants off the shelf under the guise of "healthy herbal extracts." They really fucked up my natural strength and urges. So, I went completely cold-turkey to clean out my system of the false energy and also to regain physical, mental and emotional balance.

So, there is a way out and that means to me, putting it into perspective. Not being owned by it. Having it be according to my desires and standards.

I mean, really to be honest, pussy is interesting and enjoyable to visit but I certainly wouldn't want to make it my home.

 

[Camant1997]

There has been days recently I have question myself on wtf I have been doing. The more I become adventurous and finding legitimate scores I'm also looking at the funds just wash up. Is it worth it? Well for that one bust in the bag I guess lol. But then after that then what. But then i had a few or attempted and either it was a scam or i was just taking one for the team with going the cheap route. I have been telling myself I have to limit my transaction at the machine but to stay off the search bar looking is becoming more difficult to stay away. I am already trying to plan my next move. Maybe it's a good thing I cant get in contact with them. Maybe its gonna make me pursue more for another encounter. But all I know is that as I get more deep into hobbying I'm having a hard time staying away

 

[Nehoma]

There has been days recently I have question myself on wtf I have been doing. The more I become adventurous and finding legitimate scores I'm also looking at the funds just wash up. Is it worth it? Well for that one bust in the bag I guess lol. But then after that then what. But then i had a few or attempted and either it was a scam or i was just taking one for the team with going the cheap route. I have been telling myself I have to limit my transaction at the machine but to stay off the search bar looking is becoming more difficult to stay away. I am already trying to plan my next move. Maybe it's a good thing I cant get in contact with them. Maybe its gonna make me pursue more for another encounter. But all I know is that as I get more deep into hobbying I'm having a hard time staying away

Like any other budget maybe you can somehow limit yourself to once or twice a month instead of cold turkey. Then Everytime you were going to get your rocks off and you didn't, put that donation in a jar and watch it build. Hopefully it will encourage you ..and hopefully you don't spend it on a more expensive twat. Good luck.

 

[Camant1997]

Like any other budget maybe you can somehow limit yourself to once or twice a month instead of cold turkey. Then Everytime you were going to get your rocks off and you didn't, put that donation in a jar and watch it build. Hopefully it will encourage you ..and hopefully you don't spend it on a more expensive twat. Good luck.

Yea that was my initial plan, once or twice a month at the most. But the temptation of it and the availability of it takes over. I try not to go too expensive as it is but I dont go for "track mark status" to save a buck. And I particularly am not gonna pay for just a HJ when you can get FS somewhere.

 

[Camant1997]

Yea that was my initial plan, once or twice a month at the most. But the temptation of it and the availability of it takes over. I try not to go too expensive as it is but I dont go for "track mark status" to save a buck. And I particularly am not gonna pay for just a HJ when you can get FS somewhere.

It started as a once a week thing. Then it got gradual. Then I found this site and it corrupted me lol. Then I started to get balsey and go outside the box. Now it's about whenever I can score or at the minimum its 3 times a week

 

[mugi]

"I feel your pain."
You must analyze the whole process if you want to ease yourself out of the vice.

If you are taking any sexual stimulant at all, natural or synthetic, you are creating an unnatural physical need that makes the problem harder to address.

If you want to "stop" completely, I can't even address that except by possibly entering a Buddhist monastery where all the shaven-head monks are engaged in the same plight to overcome the physical.

But that might be a bit extreme at this point in the game.

Also, try and determine if your addiction is physical or mental. It is mental when you need to find either a sexual image (like porn) or physical partner to cause erection so as your sexual life is mind-emotional based.

If your drive is physical based, meaning without stimulants and even after ejaculation your body recuperates so fast that it is ready to engage again, that is not really a problem. That just means that you are very healthy and you probably need a horny girlfriend to enjoy each other. Paying a prostitute is just not feasible unless you are filthy f-ing rich and can afford multiple visits in a day and many guys can do that as told on this board and also as told to me by providers.

(****interesting sidenote: a provider once complimented me on my penis being so hard and rubust and I told her that is because I usually don't jerk off and wait to have a full experience. And then I asked her about other clients and she told me that many guys visit her by addiction multiple times a day but their erections are weak due to over-use. She actually pitied them. "but took their money, just the same.")

But if you are so endowed with super sexual powers and don't have another outlet like a gal and are dealing solely with a strong bodily urge unprovoked by sexual stimulants and the money spent is creating financial problems, then strategic masturbation might have to be employed. (not over-employed)

I have limited my appearances in fun houses due to the scrutiny of the banker in my household but I still must go and I limit my visits and it falls under the financial radar.

I have engaged in swimming and saunas and steams and hot and cold baths at a cheap spa which keeps me in pretty good shape and reroutes the sexual energy to another physical activity. In these spa sessions, I also do a little yoga and practice breath retention and qi-gong which gives me control of my mind and I am better able to not allow sex to control me. I do it (sex) when there is time and freedom and I can have a grand experience and greatly prolong my orgasm or not even orgasm and I can really take advantage of a session where she is on display orgasm after orgasm in all positions so that I get tremendous value as they are super-sessions and not mere releases that leave me dissatisfied. Maybe one session has more sexual content than ten normal average sessions. I mean, she will not soon forget your visit.

(yet another side note: If you remember back in the 80's there was a guru called OSHO who promoted his students to have all the sex they wanted on his huge ashram in Oregon. People engaged in orgies upon orgies until their hearts were content. I bring this up only to bring out his statement that a female's body is endowed with eroticism from every feature, not just vagina and breasts and derriere. A man's body has his sex most basically centered in the genitalia. So, a woman takes time and mastery to be enjoyed. She is multi-orgasmic and a veritable pleasure garden. So when you save up your money to see her, take advantage of all she has to offer instead of 10 or 20 pumps and pop.)

So, I am saying, use this opportunity to remold and rebuild yourself by first understanding yourself and then creating a program that suits you where you can super-enjoy less frequent sessions and also learn to have power and control.

 

[Camant1997]

"I feel your pain."
You must analyze the whole process if you want to ease yourself out of the vice.

If you are taking any sexual stimulant at all, natural or synthetic, you are creating an unnatural physical need that makes the problem harder to address.

If you want to "stop" completely, I can't even address that except by possibly entering a Buddhist monastery where all the shaven-head monks are engaged in the same plight to overcome the physical.

But that might be a bit extreme at this point in the game.

Also, try and determine if your addiction is physical or mental. It is mental when you need to find either a sexual image (like porn) or physical partner to cause erection so as your sexual life is mind-emotional based.

If your drive is physical based, meaning without stimulants and even after ejaculation your body recuperates so fast that it is ready to engage again, that is not really a problem. That just means that you are very healthy and you probably need a horny girlfriend to enjoy each other. Paying a prostitute is just not feasible unless you are filthy f-ing rich and can afford multiple visits in a day and many guys can do that as told on this board and also as told to me by providers.

(****interesting sidenote: a provider once complimented me on my penis being so hard and rubust and I told her that is because I usually don't jerk off and wait to have a full experience. And then I asked her about other clients and she told me that many guys visit her by addiction multiple times a day but their erections are weak due to over-use. She actually pitied them. "but took their money, just the same.")

But if you are so endowed with super sexual powers and don't have another outlet like a gal and are dealing solely with a strong bodily urge unprovoked by sexual stimulants and the money spent is creating financial problems, then strategic masturbation might have to be employed. (not over-employed)

I have limited my appearances in fun houses due to the scrutiny of the banker in my household but I still must go and I limit my visits and it falls under the financial radar.

I have engaged in swimming and saunas and steams and hot and cold baths at a cheap spa which keeps me in pretty good shape and reroutes the sexual energy to another physical activity. In these spa sessions, I also do a little yoga and practice breath retention and qi-gong which gives me control of my mind and I am better able to not allow sex to control me. I do it (sex) when there is time and freedom and I can have a grand experience and greatly prolong my orgasm or not even orgasm and I can really take advantage of a session where she is on display orgasm after orgasm in all positions so that I get tremendous value as they are super-sessions and not mere releases that leave me dissatisfied. Maybe one session has more sexual content than ten normal average sessions. I mean, she will not soon forget your visit.

(yet another side note: If you remember back in the 80's there was a guru called OSHO who promoted his students to have all the sex they wanted on his huge ashram in Oregon. People engaged in orgies upon orgies until their hearts were content. I bring this up only to bring out his statement that a female's body is endowed with eroticism from every feature, not just vagina and breasts and derriere. A man's body has his sex most basically centered in the genitalia. So, a woman takes time and mastery to be enjoyed. She is multi-orgasmic and a veritable pleasure garden. So when you save up your money to see her, take advantage of all she has to offer instead of 10 or 20 pumps and pop.)

So, I am saying, use this opportunity to remold and rebuild yourself by first understanding yourself and then creating a program that suits you where you can super-enjoy less frequent sessions and also learn to have power and control.

Thanks for the advice, I think with me is that I just want to have different type of ethnicities without the "commitment ". I do have a life outside of this as I dont want to say too much without saying lol. And the SO does the job but......and there is a but......I just want something different. I did the whole porn thing in between with the SO but it only does so much and you get bored of that. Just like webcams , and then you start watching them on camera and paying "tokens" and then your like dam why dont I get the real thing for that. So that's when I ventured off to this.

 

[Gsx98]

Haven’t read all the posts on her but what scares me the most is the risks associated with it. From getting arrested which can lead to loss of job and destroy family. To catching a life lasting STD. Sometimes I’m like why am I putting all this at risk. Many times I stop myself but other times I just go for it. Like today I’m trying to go get it but at the same time I’m like what if this and this happens.

 

[Nehoma]

Haven’t read all the posts on her but what scares me the most is the risks associated with it. From getting arrested which can lead to loss of job and destroy family. To catching a life lasting STD. Sometimes I’m like why am I putting all this at risk. Many times I stop myself but other times I just go for it. Like today I’m trying to go get it but at the same time I’m like what if this and this happens.

As I previously posted this is how I've stayed away for quite some time now. Eventually I will cave....

 

[Gsx98]

I tried to stay away but it doesn’t really work. For me this started maybe 8-10 years ago was going through a difficult moment with SO and found it so easy to set something up through CL and BP. I never ever did anything like that in my life. Lol first time I cried afterwards from guilt and was like never again!!! Yeah right I wish I can but being that it’s so easy make it hard to stop. I do take long breaks like ranging from 2 months to a year but never completely can stop. I went just last week after not doing anything for like 2-3 months. I dunno if I’m addicted or Not because it’s not like the last session was that satisfying. I think I like the thrill of the search and see what I find. The actual deed is like blah nothing special.

 

[nate1]

i took a break for 2 years and everything was going great, then one day i decided to check who was around the area and i just had to go see her -_-, i was doing so good. i've found that right after i see a provider it's tough to be with my SO and have a great time b/c of guilt, idk how to deal with it, it gets stuck in my head for a while until it goes away.....
any one else have this problem? how do you deal with it?

 

[mugi]

i took a break for 2 years and everything was going great, then one day i decided to check who was around the area and i just had to go see her -_-, i was doing so good. i've found that right after i see a provider it's tough to be with my SO and have a great time b/c of guilt, idk how to deal with it, it gets stuck in my head for a while until it goes away.....
any one else have this problem? how do you deal with it?

Know and understand yourself and your motives. What is guilt? Not living up to your expectations, your commitment, your promise. It is very laudable to keep your agreements to your significant other. I commend those that have and that have achieved balance and happiness within the confines of the discipline of commitment. With all the temptation of sex, within their own psyche and externally, they have maintained their promise and I believe this generates a great power as long as it is not seen as a prideful badge of honor and a disdain for those who have succumbed. If they have used a monogamous relationship and found happiness and bliss of union, they definitely have achieved something great.

But if you could not remain faithful and you broke your commitment; what do you do? Instead of taking the experience, digesting it, understanding your needs and the value derived, immediately guilt, self-punishment, self-torture is used and this short-circuits your usefulness in your relationship with your SO and everything around you, making you a bad guy, a weak spirit, a sinner. A broken spirit is not an effective person anymore.

Maybe use the discretion to make you more humble and open if you are of the ilk that you are bothered by this transgression. See ways to improve yourself and use the humility of your failed commitment as a springboard to increased aliveness within your relationship with your SO and understanding others' faults and weaknesses. Learn to forgive yourself and others

You did not commit murder, either. You did not steal. You enjoyed a sexual experience. Learn from it and move on.

Most guys have no problem with the broken promise as long as they do not get caught. Just be aware of your psyche, that you are a principled person but you can't resist a cheat here and there. Don't apply guilt as a solution. Take your little discretion and examine it and move on like a great spirit with all his potentials that did break a vow and use the humility of your weakness for further expansion.

"Suffer it to be so now."