What makes you respond to CL ads?
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Guys browse these ads for free and look at the photos - it's like a free porn site, with the teaser that you can pretend you could actually get this. It makes guys ignore everything they know about CL. They want CL to be the way they imagine it - I could actually fuck this girl and spend less to do it - that johns ignore reality.
I would love to know how, separately, how many clients and providers get busted through CL.
I would love to know how, separately, how many clients and providers get busted through CL.
"Free" in this case is a relative term, though. Is the time it takes to write the ad and (in some cases) code it free? Is the time it takes to field responses free? And, if the ad is placed somewhere in which most of the responses have a very low propensity to actually buy your services (or if it's simply a really bad ad that attracts the wrong audience), how much time have you squandered away? If your time is worthless, then yes, CL (or any other PMB) is free. But I imagine that most of the providers posting ads wouldn't think of it that way.
Which is why, if you watch CL closely, some advertisers have made something of a science in the way they put together their ads. Paying attention to this can make us better consumers. For providers, it can save them a lot of time (and make them a lot of money).
Which is why, if you watch CL closely, some advertisers have made something of a science in the way they put together their ads. Paying attention to this can make us better consumers. For providers, it can save them a lot of time (and make them a lot of money).
CL has it's problems like spam, scams and LE but it saved my life when I had no money and needed to make some. Since then the independent and reasonable providers are few and far between but it still works as an extra venue to advertise from time to time. Just be careful like anywhere else, screen and be smart.
"Free"
Posting on sites that don't charge is "free" as far as money but your paying in the giant risk you are taking of possibly getting arrested, hurt, robbed, no shows, etc. There are places I advertise for free but the guys have to pay & they have handles so you can verify alittle that way. But somethings aren't worth the trouble if you know that somewhere is trouble or has a bad rep don't bother because your making alot of money you can afford a little advertising.
Posting on sites that don't charge is "free" as far as money but your paying in the giant risk you are taking of possibly getting arrested, hurt, robbed, no shows, etc. There are places I advertise for free but the guys have to pay & they have handles so you can verify alittle that way. But somethings aren't worth the trouble if you know that somewhere is trouble or has a bad rep don't bother because your making alot of money you can afford a little advertising.
I would say one for the only perks of CL is that I occasionally have nice guys from out of town contact me, sometimes from other countries. They know CL in thier city and use it while traveling. Many have no idea what PMB is so they would never find me otherwise.
With CL you just have to be really selective, smart and screen. I don't believe it is possible to solely depend on as your only source of advertising. Overposting yourself is just a red flag that you are desperate. If I don't have any responses I just give up. Some days I don't need it at all but it's comforting knowing it's there are an extra option especially since I am in an oversaturated section of the industry. Being free is great but there is more weeding and seeding and if you are not experienced it can be difficult.
With CL you just have to be really selective, smart and screen. I don't believe it is possible to solely depend on as your only source of advertising. Overposting yourself is just a red flag that you are desperate. If I don't have any responses I just give up. Some days I don't need it at all but it's comforting knowing it's there are an extra option especially since I am in an oversaturated section of the industry. Being free is great but there is more weeding and seeding and if you are not experienced it can be difficult.
You have to understand that I do not see 90% of the responses I get so that's why it may work. I am also a very experienced screener who did phones for many years. When I was broke and could not work for anyone anymore it saved me but I could see how it can be a gamble. I also do not post a phone number and have some time to stew over the ******s. I understand this does not work for everyone, it's time consuming but I cannot imagine any other way. I am very organized with my ******s and save and categorize every one I receive. You have to be careful no matter what but really alert with CL. I once did CL in the UK and I received responses from very upscale guys, all very serious. I think the CL problem might be worse in New York than other parts. i swear if I did not have pets I would work in the UK for a few weeks at a time, the guys are wonderful.
I think CL is more dangerous from the clients point of view.
Ads on a pay site at least have some form of legitamacy given that the site probably knows something more about the provider than an electronic mail address since there was a transaction between the two. With CL all there is is the electronic mail address given to place the ad. This leaves the clients open to bad stuff.
From a providers point of view since the ads on the pay site and CL are equally free for the clients, the provider is advertising basically to the same pool of people. Maybe you can argue that pay sites attract better clients because of the quality of the ads or better searching or something.
Ads on a pay site at least have some form of legitamacy given that the site probably knows something more about the provider than an electronic mail address since there was a transaction between the two. With CL all there is is the electronic mail address given to place the ad. This leaves the clients open to bad stuff.
From a providers point of view since the ads on the pay site and CL are equally free for the clients, the provider is advertising basically to the same pool of people. Maybe you can argue that pay sites attract better clients because of the quality of the ads or better searching or something.
This scares the living daylights out of me. And it's one reason I'm very cautious about using anonymous ***** accounts when I respond to anything on CL (or online, period). The last thing I want is some sort of bust in which my personal ***** address turns up on some provider's computer and/or ***** account. Same problem with phone numbers. If you, as a provider, keep this information, you're putting us all at risk!
Yeah, but I take the info with me to the grave. Nobody who see me knows less about me that I know about him. I need to be organized because there are some really scary guys out there. There is one I refused who uses the same number but different ******s. The info is just ******s on my account, not on paper or the hard drive, no incriminating info is attached, no codes. I put myself out there enough that some trust must be established. Anyone who doesn't keep modest but careful records is just asking for trouble. I don't have some little black book, just mail plus on my ****** account. How is that scary? I think you think it is more than it is. My computer is off when I go into session and god forbid I was ever busted they will have to torture me for my password. I have too much respect for my clients not to protect them.