The REAL High End

#21
I think the article in Slate by sociologist Sudhir Venkatesh is a crock of shit. He goes from $75 average a pop streetwalkers for FS (too low from what I read, I don't participate in that part of the market).

$75 is definitely low-end for SWs but not unheard of, especially for crackwhores which I try to stay away from.
 
#22
$75 is definitely low-end for SWs but not unheard of, especially for crackwhores which I try to stay away from.
Paulbunyon - $75 AVERAGE is what he said, which is what I disagreed with. Yes, it's available for $75 but not "average", that was my point. All to show that the writer in Slate was talking shit. And I think your own post supports my point.
 
#23
I agree with that.

You apparently have to be plugged in to get access to Tier 3. Why would anyone assume Spitzer would be plugged in? He might be one of the least likely people to be, if you think about it.
The only reasons I think that he could be plugged into Tier 3 if he wanted to are:

1. He's extremely wealthy, that wealth was inherited, and this is a game for the privileged class in which he clearly travels

2. Even if he was too naive/stupid/clueless to get plugged in, you'd think that someone close to him would have caught on to his proclivities at some point or other and clued him in. I get the impression that's the difference between politics way back when and politics today. There was a time when being the top aid to a politician meant keeping him out of this type of trouble. More often than not, that meant keeping it under the radar.
 
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#24
Especiallysincemuch of his security forcewereStatePolice and even turning a blind eye they had to be on to what he was doing nad mighthaveadvised a bit of discretion on his part. then againElliot was such an arrogant bastard and hypocrite that I doubt anyone could tell him anything. Can't wait for Kristen to come out with how kinky he was. Soesn't seem to be a missionary type of fellow
 
#25
Isn't it strange that no matter what price point you engage in, the prostitutes view of a john is almost the same. Here is a copy of the the tier 3 woman talking about her client paying 10k a session or her:

The last time I met him, I gave him a bath," she told me. "I told him he was the most sensitive man I'd ever met. I never tell him he's a piece of shit; I make him feel like superman."
 
#26
Paulbunyon - $75 AVERAGE is what he said, which is what I disagreed with. Yes, it's available for $75 but not "average", that was my point. All to show that the writer in Slate was talking shit. And I think your own post supports my point.

NYC--yeah, you are right I must have missed the word average. I stand corrected. From my experiences the average for FS from a SW in the NY area is considerably more than that, probably somewhere in the $125 range. But thats average, some will do for less (especially crackheads), some for more than $125.
That $75 figure is obviously dated info and certainly low-end for 2008.
 
#27
Especiallysincemuch of his security forcewereStatePolice and even turning a blind eye they had to be on to what he was doing nad mighthaveadvised a bit of discretion on his part. then againElliot was such an arrogant bastard and hypocrite that I doubt anyone could tell him anything. Can't wait for Kristen to come out with how kinky he was. Soesn't seem to be a missionary type of fellow
No, I wasn't thinking of the State Police. If they were aware that he was hiring prostitutes and didn't report it as a crime, I imagine there would be yet another scandal attached to all of this. I'm thinking more like his Chief of Staff or a close campaign adviser. Someone he pays to tell him when he's full of shit and what to do about it.
 
#28
NYC--yeah, you are right I must have missed the word average. I stand corrected. From my experiences the average for FS from a SW in the NY area is considerably more than that, probably somewhere in the $125 range. But thats average, some will do for less (especially crackheads), some for more than $125.
That $75 figure is obviously dated info and certainly low-end for 2008.
Shall we get into a discussion of "median" prices versus "average"? Enough to say that, in NYC, the high end can be, well, astronomical.
 
#29
I think I told this story once before on this board. I knew a provider who worked out of North England. She had her own escort mall Web site for her region, worked with photographers and did all the Web design herself. At one point she became somewhat curious about the high end, so she had some glammed up photos of herself taken as a favor and posted an ad offering herself at extremely inflated prices. She was amazed when she started to receive offers. She didn't accept them, though, because she honestly didn't think she was worth the high-end price. I think she may have been worried that the expectations of hobbyists paying that price would far exceed anything she would be willing or able to fulfill. Anyway, it's just another example of how the high end is as much a game of perception as it is anything else.
 
#31
No, I believe that there are qualitative differences. But, as we all know, in an industry with so much hucksterism, it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. Which is why everyone's on boards like these, no? To try and limit our risk and figure out who's for real and who's not.

But, to answer your question more specifically, I think there's a difference between a Gia and a Ferrari. Or an Armani tailored suit and a Sears house brand special. These are qualitative differences that go beyond mere perception. In my example above, she was a Sears house brand type of hooker and knew it. She tried selling herself as an Armani and fooled some people with her ad. But she knew, and was comfortable with, who she was and didn't pursue it any further. I suppose she could have. And, depending on what her client's expectations may have been, she might have gotten away with it. But, at that point, you have to ask yourself whether there's a qualitative difference in services between a high-end session and a mid-level session. I think there can be, but you have to be careful to choose a genuine high end provider, and to know the difference from the get go.
 

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#33
No, I believe that there are qualitative differences. But, as we all know, in an industry with so much hucksterism, it's hard to separate the wheat from the chaff. Which is why everyone's on boards like these, no? To try and limit our risk and figure out who's for real and who's not.

But, to answer your question more specifically, I think there's a difference between a Gia and a Ferrari. Or an Armani tailored suit and a Sears house brand special. These are qualitative differences that go beyond mere perception. In my example above, she was a Sears house brand type of hooker and knew it. She tried selling herself as an Armani and fooled some people with her ad. But she knew, and was comfortable with, who she was and didn't pursue it any further. I suppose she could have. And, depending on what her client's expectations may have been, she might have gotten away with it. But, at that point, you have to ask yourself whether there's a qualitative difference in services between a high-end session and a mid-level session. I think there can be, but you have to be careful to choose a genuine high end provider, and to know the difference from the get go.

a) To some extent I think you are setting up a straw man to knock down. "there's a difference between a Gia and a Ferrari." and there isn't between a crack head streetwalker and just about any $300 girl off of eros?

b) just because she got responses, doesn't mean she pulled it off. There's many a slip between........ In other words, you can't take ad responses to mean appointments. There are lots of products which get people into the showroom selling as Armani, but in fact being a lower classed imitator. In fact, you get a lot of tire kickers who will show up just to kick the tires (the same way they do with the real Ferari, which they don't buy ither).
 
#34
I never saw the point for anyone on either side of the 'high-end' in posting on a website - unless they have some inner need to express themselves.
 
#35
I never saw the point for anyone on either side of the 'high-end' in posting on a website - unless they have some inner need to express themselves.
Now that is a really interesting point and I agree with it 100% with respect to what I would call the "highest end" as opposed to the measely "high end". On the other hand, what is and and how do we know there is a "highest end" of undescribed and non-conactable nature by the noraml -sized wallet human being?
 
#36
On the other hand, what is and and how do we know there is a "highest end" of undescribed and non-conactable nature by the noraml -sized wallet human being?
We get to read about it when one of their providers or clients gets arrested.
 
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#38
The first person I think of is Charlie Sheen. He wasnt arrested, but one of his madams was. Once that happens, it all comes out. He's like the Monger Poster Boy for the somewhat higher high-end.
 
#39
But I don't think Charlie comes close to being of the financial stature that the "highest" end might require. On the other hand , the "highest" end just might not be any higher than what can be perceived via some Googking. Maybe it is all a myth.
 
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