The REAL High End
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Ah, now we are talking about the real high end, not petit bourgeois "high end" where high end is not $400-$500 but $1000 or $1500 or whatever.
My knowledge of this little sub-culture comes from two sources - a New York ex-model and a tabloid documentary on the Sultan of Brunei's harem.
Someone mentioned the way the high high end is done is two wealthy men passing a girls card to one another. I disagree, I think it is the other way. The card passed is that of the man's, among a group of what would be potential women for him.
Here's a lawsuit against the Brunei guys:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/sultan1.html
"According to a lawsuit filed by ex-Miss USA Shannon Marketic, portions of which are reproduced here, that country's billionaire rulers regularly import American women for six-week stints as high-paid hookers. Marketic, a devout Christian, claims she was unaware that, in exchange for $127,200, women were expected to serve the Sultan and his rowdy friends. The 27-year-old actress/model initially sued the Los Angeles "talent agency" she says recruited her, as well as the Sultan of Brunei (identified here as Haji Hassanal Bolkiah) and his brother, Prince Jefri. But a federal judge last month ruled that the Sultan, one of the world's richest men, cannot be sued due to the immunity afforded a head of state."
...I'm sure agreeing to play ball with White House schemes like Iran/Contra helps in this regard as well.
The tabloid documentary interviewed a lot of the women who went to Brunei. More than one Miss USAs. Miss United Kingdom runner-ups. A former Penthouse Pet. If you're curious what the contract of the American agencies is with the girls take a look -
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art/sultan12.gif
The similarities between the model girl and what I remember of the documentary and can see on the web is thus - models were paid to travel to a remote place (a Persian Gulf country, Brunei) and serve for several weeks or even up to a year in a high-end harem of mostly white western beauty queens, magazine models and the like. The girls were well paid for this. The existence of these opportunities was known on the model or beauty queen circuit. The contract prices listed here are akin to what I heard - the girls get $20k and up (up being $30k, $40k, $50k etc.) per week, which would be $1 million a year or more, and some of the girls stay longer than a year. Now THAT is high end. The one difference from the NY model is the girls supposedly were not required to have sex with anyone, although they did have to dress provocatively, go to dances and the like and dance with whomever. This girl did screw the sheikh's son, or whoever it was. Who knows what the reality of all of that is though. I've heard lots of crazy stories from Westerners working for wealthy Persian Gulf oil sheiks over the years.
In reading the news articles just now, one thing I did not recall is these sheikhs and whatnot often have floors rented out at fancy hotels in London or Beverly Hills with these girls. I'm sure the same goes for Monte Carlo and other places.
My knowledge of this little sub-culture comes from two sources - a New York ex-model and a tabloid documentary on the Sultan of Brunei's harem.
Someone mentioned the way the high high end is done is two wealthy men passing a girls card to one another. I disagree, I think it is the other way. The card passed is that of the man's, among a group of what would be potential women for him.
Here's a lawsuit against the Brunei guys:
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/sultan1.html
"According to a lawsuit filed by ex-Miss USA Shannon Marketic, portions of which are reproduced here, that country's billionaire rulers regularly import American women for six-week stints as high-paid hookers. Marketic, a devout Christian, claims she was unaware that, in exchange for $127,200, women were expected to serve the Sultan and his rowdy friends. The 27-year-old actress/model initially sued the Los Angeles "talent agency" she says recruited her, as well as the Sultan of Brunei (identified here as Haji Hassanal Bolkiah) and his brother, Prince Jefri. But a federal judge last month ruled that the Sultan, one of the world's richest men, cannot be sued due to the immunity afforded a head of state."
...I'm sure agreeing to play ball with White House schemes like Iran/Contra helps in this regard as well.
The tabloid documentary interviewed a lot of the women who went to Brunei. More than one Miss USAs. Miss United Kingdom runner-ups. A former Penthouse Pet. If you're curious what the contract of the American agencies is with the girls take a look -
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/graphics/art/sultan12.gif
The similarities between the model girl and what I remember of the documentary and can see on the web is thus - models were paid to travel to a remote place (a Persian Gulf country, Brunei) and serve for several weeks or even up to a year in a high-end harem of mostly white western beauty queens, magazine models and the like. The girls were well paid for this. The existence of these opportunities was known on the model or beauty queen circuit. The contract prices listed here are akin to what I heard - the girls get $20k and up (up being $30k, $40k, $50k etc.) per week, which would be $1 million a year or more, and some of the girls stay longer than a year. Now THAT is high end. The one difference from the NY model is the girls supposedly were not required to have sex with anyone, although they did have to dress provocatively, go to dances and the like and dance with whomever. This girl did screw the sheikh's son, or whoever it was. Who knows what the reality of all of that is though. I've heard lots of crazy stories from Westerners working for wealthy Persian Gulf oil sheiks over the years.
In reading the news articles just now, one thing I did not recall is these sheikhs and whatnot often have floors rented out at fancy hotels in London or Beverly Hills with these girls. I'm sure the same goes for Monte Carlo and other places.
One person here mentioned we are all guys here ... I hope it is OKAY for me to ask a question as I am not a guy 
What do you guys consider to be "low end" ? And what contribution do you consider to be high end" ?
Thanks
What do you guys consider to be "low end" ? And what contribution do you consider to be high end" ?
Thanks
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For an honest answer . It was many moons ago when I found the ONLINE hobby/provider ads etc.... I read ads all over that are very low like in the 75-150. range . It seems to upset other ladies who visit certain areas when ladies will offer lower end contributions .
I know there is much competition online now days but that is outrageous to do that .
We had a SW trying to use one of our private groups and was not sure if the pimp was posting the ladies pix or she was but either way .....they were posting pix side ways and pix of the girls on toliets and wild looking poses that the higher end ladies would never post .
What is that saying You can take the lady off the streets but not the streets out of the lady ? Is that right ?
For an honest answer . It was many moons ago when I found the ONLINE hobby/provider ads etc.... I read ads all over that are very low like in the 75-150. range . It seems to upset other ladies who visit certain areas when ladies will offer lower end contributions .
I know there is much competition online now days but that is outrageous to do that .
We had a SW trying to use one of our private groups and was not sure if the pimp was posting the ladies pix or she was but either way .....they were posting pix side ways and pix of the girls on toliets and wild looking poses that the higher end ladies would never post .
What is that saying You can take the lady off the streets but not the streets out of the lady ? Is that right ?
It very possibly correct. Some people choose not to grow. It happens in all walks of life. In my time I have known a few women who started as one thing and changed as they got older and wiser. Some just can't for what ever reason. This i find is true for most people, and believe me I have seen alot in my time..
This is irrelevant, but this board has defined (if I'm remembering right) $400/hour as an aribitrary floor for the "high end" for purposes of inclusion in this forum only.
I think most of us agree that, in reality, the "high end" starts a lot higher than that. I'd personally probably start it at $800/hour -- but I could be possibly be argued into accepting $600.
As I use it, at least, the term "high end" refers only to the rate charged. It has no qualitative component.
I think most of us agree that, in reality, the "high end" starts a lot higher than that. I'd personally probably start it at $800/hour -- but I could be possibly be argued into accepting $600.
As I use it, at least, the term "high end" refers only to the rate charged. It has no qualitative component.
Based on my very limited observations, there seem to be several "bands" of rates that roughly corresponds to some sort of self-selected categories (rounding to the nearest $50). I'd put these as (a) $350 and below, (b) $400-750, (c) 800-1,200, and (d) $1,250 and above. Also, I've observed that many of the self-styled "high-end" providers won't do 1 hour sessions. I'm not sure which band I'd put a provider in who has as her minimum a $2,500 3-hour session.
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And since you, 10538, are one of those uniquely disturbed people who would find that thread interesting, here's a link:
http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5086
http://www.utopiaguide.com/forums/showthread.php?t=5086
If I may, what was to outcome. You said the floor is set at 400, from what I have seen lately there is no ceiling. The minum of a multi hour apponitment even if I had that kind of funds seems a little extreme. OK so I usually go for a multi hour one but the quote from above is beyond my means at this time. Also how is it that 400 became the floor.