Teach me...How do I get a massage without getting arrested?

#1
I'm new to this and have considered a massage for a long time but am afraid of getting caught up in a sting by an overzealous man-hating DA whether I was there for a HE or not. How do you take that initial leap of faith to walk into a place, get a massage or body rub by at lease an attractive girl, and know you aren't walking into a sting? I'm hoping some of the more experienced patrons can share some insight here or even provide a safe place in Nassau County for a beginner to get his feet wet and explore this further.

I'm actually not looking for FS here but far be it from me to deny a girl an additional tip for a consensual HE or CBJ.

Thanks,
AM
 
#2
I'm new to this and have considered a massage for a long time but am afraid of getting caught up in a sting by an overzealous man-hating DA whether I was there for a HE or not. How do you take that initial leap of faith to walk into a place, get a massage or body rub by at lease an attractive girl, and know you aren't walking into a sting? I'm hoping some of the more experienced patrons can share some insight here or even provide a safe place in Nassau County for a beginner to get his feet wet and explore this further.

I'm actually not looking for FS here but far be it from me to deny a girl an additional tip for a consensual HE or CBJ.

Thanks,
AM
It is illegal to perform massage for money without a NYS license for such.
It is not illegal to get a massage from an unlicensed masseuse.
It is illegal to solicit sex of any kind (HE, BJ, FS ).

I suggest you go to an AMP (not answer an advert in BP or CL) get on the table bare assed and see how it goes. Complement the girl how strong she is by putting your hand on her calf and then her tight. Her reaction (or lack there of) will indicate to you is extras are available. Typically with foot massage p[laces (30-35 per hour for body rub) they are not. For 40/ 1/2hr places they are.

When you finally complete your visit post a review of the place on UG.
 
#5
"Cops are not allowed to wash your balls." LMAO, that's hysterical. Good thing to know! Never done this before so I didn't even know that was an option. I'd think thats something to want afterwards but live and learn.
 
#8
Read the reviews on here that are recent .Go to one of the reviewed places. Have 60 ready for the hr -kind of gives them impression youve done this before if your ready with the $. I usually let the girl see the possible tip money as I'm peeling off the 60 for the hr.During the massage (naked face down to start) I try to position my hands depending on her location so that she makes contact with me.I fine tune my hand position to innocently brush up against her kitty area. This is easy when shes near your head and leaning over your back .I just put my hands on the table over my head and hand meets snatch pretty easily. Not aggresive just lets her know that im not pulling away as she rubs up to the back of my hand. If and when soft touch starts I open my legs to allow easy access to the boys.Generally this is the go ahead signal in my experience.Give them better access get a better Soft touch in my opinion. The rest is easy ,flip ,HE ,done.If youre looking for more services other than HJ there are plenty of places.I've only gotten bj once at an AMP . I simply go to these places where I can get a decent massage and HJ and thats it. Theres plenty of other people that can steer you in the right direction as to more enhanced services at amps.
A couple of the advertisers on this site offer a wide array of services that seem very good .I believe they are located in NYC which just isnt convenient for me, But they are on my monger bucket list.
 
#9
Actually the ads on BP that are obviously for Asian massage places are there because at minimum a HE is available. When I started I familiarized myself with the places via BP and read reviews on UG. The experience is pretty safe. LE has much bigger fish to fry. I wasn't interested in FS at first but eventually HE from 40 year old Asian ladies got mundane. Started learning about places that offered more and took advantage of it. Now I know where to go depending on what I am in the mood for or what I want to spend. I've probably been to 25 different places for a message. Always was "taken care of". Never felt I was in the middle of a bust. Just don't ask for anything on your first visits. Let them lead. The gals know why you are ultimately there. Once you frequent a place multiple times and get to know the girls you can inquire what is on the menu. Generally if the front door to the place is unlocked and the rooms don't have doors just contains then nothing more than a HE is available. The places that you must ring in and have walls to the ceiling and real doors are more likely to offer more to regular customers. There's a place in Oakdale that is like I just described and I got FS my first time there and I didn't go in there thinking that was gonna happen so you never know. And the AMPS that advertise on the Escort page of BP offer a lot more than the ones on the Body Rub page. They choose to be on the Escort page to communicate that more than a HE is available. Good luck. Keep us posted and welcome to the addiction.
 

pokler

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#10
Lie I would not be too dismissive of LE. Each and every day men are getting arrested on prostituion charges stemming from activity which started on BP. That's not a mistake. It's every day.
 

Slinky Bender

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#11
Dont assume there is ANYTHING which cops are not allowed to do when undercover. They are allowed to take drugs. They are allowed to say they are not cops. Etc. Its just that in general the prosecutors dont want to put a cop on the stand who is going to say "yeah. I gave him a blowjob and then arrested him" becuase they are worried about how the jury might react. But that does not mean they cant do it (and it certainly doesnt mean they cant do it and then lie and say they did not because a cops word will always be taken over an accused in a case of he said she said ).
 

Waterclone

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#12
I always do a table shower. Cops are not allowed to wash your balls. That how I figure its safe.
LMAO. Never, EVER, believe some guy on the internet when he tells you cops are not allowed to do something. In hawaii cops were fucking the hookers before arresting them. If you think they won't wash your balls, think again.
 

Waterclone

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#13
Its just that in general the prosecutors dont want to put a cop on the stand who is going to say "yeah. I gave him a blowjob and then arrested him" becuase they are worried about how the jury might react. But that does not mean they cant do it...
I place the odds of a cop giving a guy a blow job to make a solicitation arrest as slightly less likely than winning the lottery. :)

Sure, cops go undercover and they might fuck people as part of that, but I think it would take a slightly more interesting takedown than busting a random john.

I'm just getting this from TV, but the police does seem to be a kind of boys club. And a cop who gave guys bj's to arrest them would never live it down.

As I said before, don't believe people on the internet who tell you what a cop can or can't do, but I think if your dick is inside any part of her body, it's a safe bet that she's not a cop.
 
#14
..... but I think if your dick is inside any part of her body, it's a safe bet that she's not a cop.
I agree 100%. However the problem you face is not when your dick is inside any part of her body but when you ask to put your dick inside any part of her body.

In the "Flush the johns" fiasco, guys got busted when they just took the money out and in one case (as reported by ND when the guy beat the rap) the guy looked at the girl, turned around and started to leave - and they still busted him, put his name and picture in the paper, etc.
 
#15
As far as cops participating in sex for arrests, I have read that male cops have had sex with hookers and then busted them. But I have never heard, nor do I even believe the possibility exists, that a female cop would have sex with a john or even just touch his balls prior to busting him. That is one huge distinction. So the idea that by letting the provider wash your balls makes you safe seems like a very good bet. Plus, it also seems highly unlikely that a female UC officer would act like an AMP provider in a sting. More than likely, an AMP bust would probably go down by catching you in the act with the actual provider rather than in sting type of operation. Of course, nothing is ever guaranteed, but I do think waterclone got it right when he put the odds at less than winning the lottery.
 
#16
Not trying to scare you, ArchMan, but there's something besides arrest to worry about. LE in Arizona has taken it upon themselves to publish your name and phone number should it happen to be stored in a cell phone seized during a massage parlor raid. See: http://reason.com/blog/2015/07/06/tucson-by-spanish-sting-phone-contacts#.otyaud:zEgw

It underscores a couple of the basic rules for monger safety. Get a burner phone, or at least a Google Voice number, and don't use your real name. Use a nom de splooge.
 

pokler

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#17
Many states have upped the ante on human trafficking laws. If you are caught soliciting a victim its a serious felony.
 

Slinky Bender

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#18
As far as cops participating in sex for arrests, I have read that male cops have had sex with hookers and then busted them. But I have never heard, nor do I even believe the possibility exists, that a female cop would have sex with a john or even just touch his balls prior to busting him. That is one huge distinction. So the idea that by letting the provider wash your balls makes you safe seems like a very good bet. Plus, it also seems highly unlikely that a female UC officer would act like an AMP provider in a sting. More than likely, an AMP bust would probably go down by catching you in the act with the actual provider rather than in sting type of operation. Of course, nothing is ever guaranteed, but I do think waterclone got it right when he put the odds at less than winning the lottery.
There was a case in ?North Carolina? Where the police used an undercover informant to go in and have sex at an AMP and then busted on that. So even if you don't believe a cop would wash your balls, dont put it past them to flip an AMP worker, have her do it, and then bust you based on that.
 
#19
Publishing name and phone would be a very bad thing. My concern is that I'd be there just for a massage and get busted. I give the regulars a lot of credit. Honestly, I'd be thrilled with TS, HJ, HE and a nice massage and leave it at that but I'm a bit afraid to find that first place to try.
 

pokler

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#20
Publishing name and phone would be a very bad thing. My concern is that I'd be there just for a massage and get busted. I give the regulars a lot of credit. Honestly, I'd be thrilled with TS, HJ, HE and a nice massage and leave it at that but I'm a bit afraid to find that first place to try.
Then find a real girlfriend to play with your Dick .
 
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