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dakota is a $250 /hr girl. if she were able to charge $1000 she'd be doing it and getting it...(so she doesn't charge $1000 any where no matter what julie tells you). she obviously doesn't deliver the goods and thats why she's only $250. let this be the last time julies is mentioned on this board.
and girls rate don't vary that much from city to city..... a girl who gets 300 in houston probably gets 350-400 in nyc. it's very rare that you see someone double their rates from the smallest town to NYC.
500 is the mark regardess of location.
"What about a lady who charges 500/hr but offers big discount on multiple hours?"
Well, to some extent that's what we're talking about ( i.e. "what qualifies?" ), but my opinion is that once someone is 'over the bar' for the first hour, then they are "in" regardless of what discounts are offered after that. For example, if someone only offered 12 hours dates ( and I mean "for real" not some BS where they said that on some website, but IRL were giing out $20 BJ's behind the 7-11 ) for $1,500, then I'd say that's in also, even though the division would show an hourly rate of $125.
"What about a girl like Dakota who charges about $1000 per session but can be seen at Julie's for $250? "
I think it's fairly clear that Dakota's offering at Julie's is not "high end", so perhaps that's a poor example. I'd also be curious how much work she did that was "high end". Although I do think that discussions of "alleged high end girls which actually work for much less at mainstream places" would be fair game.
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In actuality, I think it's fairly easy to tell if someone falls into this category, regardless of what number you're looking at, if you just think about it a little ( hell, one way to know is "Has this person been talked about at all on the board, and if at all, has anyone said 'no one is worth that price' ", and then use that as a guideline).
Well, to some extent that's what we're talking about ( i.e. "what qualifies?" ), but my opinion is that once someone is 'over the bar' for the first hour, then they are "in" regardless of what discounts are offered after that. For example, if someone only offered 12 hours dates ( and I mean "for real" not some BS where they said that on some website, but IRL were giing out $20 BJ's behind the 7-11 ) for $1,500, then I'd say that's in also, even though the division would show an hourly rate of $125.
"What about a girl like Dakota who charges about $1000 per session but can be seen at Julie's for $250? "
I think it's fairly clear that Dakota's offering at Julie's is not "high end", so perhaps that's a poor example. I'd also be curious how much work she did that was "high end". Although I do think that discussions of "alleged high end girls which actually work for much less at mainstream places" would be fair game.
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In actuality, I think it's fairly easy to tell if someone falls into this category, regardless of what number you're looking at, if you just think about it a little ( hell, one way to know is "Has this person been talked about at all on the board, and if at all, has anyone said 'no one is worth that price' ", and then use that as a guideline).
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1. Just like anything else you would expect to get multiple hour discounts or reduced rates. So, if the one hour session for one lady is $500 that is the high end regardless of the fact that multiple hour rates take it below that number because that SHOULD be the case.
2. In my view if a lady charges over $500/hour in one place but under $500 in another locale (julie's)(sorry Oz) then she is NOT a $500 lady because she can be had by anyone for less than the high end.
3. I also don't think that Ozzy's "Janelle factor" falls within the parameters of a high end lady for the same reason as 2 above UNLESS that is a short term fixed term exception.
4. I agree that there are some variations between NYC, SF, LA, CHI prices and other locales (Houston, Dallas, maybe even Miami). So, I'd say that you could argue the cut-off should be $500 in the 4 cities above and reduce it to no less than $400 in cities outside those 4. Clearly, in my mind anything less than $400 in any city is not high-end FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS AREA OF THE BOARD.
2. In my view if a lady charges over $500/hour in one place but under $500 in another locale (julie's)(sorry Oz) then she is NOT a $500 lady because she can be had by anyone for less than the high end.
3. I also don't think that Ozzy's "Janelle factor" falls within the parameters of a high end lady for the same reason as 2 above UNLESS that is a short term fixed term exception.
4. I agree that there are some variations between NYC, SF, LA, CHI prices and other locales (Houston, Dallas, maybe even Miami). So, I'd say that you could argue the cut-off should be $500 in the 4 cities above and reduce it to no less than $400 in cities outside those 4. Clearly, in my mind anything less than $400 in any city is not high-end FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS AREA OF THE BOARD.
"500 is the mark regardess of location"
The reason why I would argue about that is that then you'd have a "gap" between the "regular" postings and the "high end". While I agree with Aristotle that the real high end doesn't even start till you hit $1,000 ( well, the real high end is more like $25,000 weekends ), i think for the puroposes of discussion we have to call high end anything over what usually gets discussed as "regular". Since that number appears to be $300, I wouldn't want to have a group of girls which didn't belong in either place. For example, Lara Nicols, who charges ( I think ) $400. everyone who I know who has seen her has given a reasonably good "review", but she doesn't get discussed much on the boards, and my guess is if someone brought her up in a 'regular' discussion, she'd get the usual "no one is worth $400" treatment. As a result, I wouldn't want to preclude discussion of her and those like her from this section.
The reason why I would argue about that is that then you'd have a "gap" between the "regular" postings and the "high end". While I agree with Aristotle that the real high end doesn't even start till you hit $1,000 ( well, the real high end is more like $25,000 weekends ), i think for the puroposes of discussion we have to call high end anything over what usually gets discussed as "regular". Since that number appears to be $300, I wouldn't want to have a group of girls which didn't belong in either place. For example, Lara Nicols, who charges ( I think ) $400. everyone who I know who has seen her has given a reasonably good "review", but she doesn't get discussed much on the boards, and my guess is if someone brought her up in a 'regular' discussion, she'd get the usual "no one is worth $400" treatment. As a result, I wouldn't want to preclude discussion of her and those like her from this section.
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SB - You've got a typo up there (I'm sure it wasn't a math error)
What's the chance that anyone stumbling onto this board in a few months is going to bother with reading this discussion? Formalizing a definition seems at best an excersize in frusteration. Still, I think most people 'know' what the high end is and will post accordingly. Also, I'm sure there'll be self policing of the board so that a defacto standard is obtained.
What's the chance that anyone stumbling onto this board in a few months is going to bother with reading this discussion? Formalizing a definition seems at best an excersize in frusteration. Still, I think most people 'know' what the high end is and will post accordingly. Also, I'm sure there'll be self policing of the board so that a defacto standard is obtained.
the thing about the janelle factor was that originally she was only supposed to be only temporally available as an indie (and thus half her normal 800 rate) due to a car accident and some minor bruises that prevented her from working for her agency and her normal fee. now that she's fully independent and still charging under the 500 level.... thus she's under the bar and not applicable to this thread.
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Why are we even trying to set a floor for this board?
We've got providers discussed in the cheap thrills board who charge the average rate (i'm assuming $$-to-$$$ is still the average). Yet we dont then thrash a poster for mentioning her, or opening up a discussion on her merits.
High End may also mean the $300 provider who is considered by some hobbiest to be classier than the average $1000 provider.
I say we leave the board open to discussion like all and let the chips land as they may, it will make our APM's life easier and it can be amended or revised later.
We've got providers discussed in the cheap thrills board who charge the average rate (i'm assuming $$-to-$$$ is still the average). Yet we dont then thrash a poster for mentioning her, or opening up a discussion on her merits.
High End may also mean the $300 provider who is considered by some hobbiest to be classier than the average $1000 provider.
I say we leave the board open to discussion like all and let the chips land as they may, it will make our APM's life easier and it can be amended or revised later.
MD...
because every time someone wants to post that he saw a 600 girl, some knuckle head will tell him he's nuts and that 3 sessions with domino is better.
the thing is that guys who spend top dollar for pussy don't begrudge the guys who spend 100. we already know from other thread that the guys who spend 100 or 200 will fight tooth and nail to make a point that no-one is worth more than they're paying simply because they fear that posting about a high end girl will drive up the prices in the lower market. well this thread says thats too fucking bad.
because every time someone wants to post that he saw a 600 girl, some knuckle head will tell him he's nuts and that 3 sessions with domino is better.
the thing is that guys who spend top dollar for pussy don't begrudge the guys who spend 100. we already know from other thread that the guys who spend 100 or 200 will fight tooth and nail to make a point that no-one is worth more than they're paying simply because they fear that posting about a high end girl will drive up the prices in the lower market. well this thread says thats too fucking bad.
Could the definition also include...
Services provided? I'm not talking about getting to have more than one cup of coffee, because in my experience, higher paying clients are really not interested in that. I have found to my great enjoyment, most of these guys love the experience as a whole ( dinner, dancing, going to the theater, quiet time ect...) So I am wondering if High End also means that the lady provides more variances in the over all experience. My example may be, that I have studied the tea ceremony, so I can provide something a little different if you are interested in traditional asian culture. Another girl may provide a custom made video for you of your experience. And of course the Porn actresses and models, who never did escorting out in the open before ( cause they would get black listed by their movie companies) are now very visible thanks to Exotica 2000 and Body Miracle. So I guess my question for you is, does a high end girl have special qualities, talents or interests that you may not find with other providers?
Love Kym xoxoxox
Services provided? I'm not talking about getting to have more than one cup of coffee, because in my experience, higher paying clients are really not interested in that. I have found to my great enjoyment, most of these guys love the experience as a whole ( dinner, dancing, going to the theater, quiet time ect...) So I am wondering if High End also means that the lady provides more variances in the over all experience. My example may be, that I have studied the tea ceremony, so I can provide something a little different if you are interested in traditional asian culture. Another girl may provide a custom made video for you of your experience. And of course the Porn actresses and models, who never did escorting out in the open before ( cause they would get black listed by their movie companies) are now very visible thanks to Exotica 2000 and Body Miracle. So I guess my question for you is, does a high end girl have special qualities, talents or interests that you may not find with other providers?
Love Kym xoxoxox
Ozzy -
Not the same as what I was talking about. I am all for banning, or at least frowning on, any comments from knuckleheads who say "could have gotten the same from jane doe for 1/3 the price....." what I'm talking about is
(1) why everyone is taxing their brains trying to put a "floor" on the prices (i.e., cost) of providers who can be reviewed here in this board., when no reciprocal "ceiling" is placed in the cheap thrills area?
(2) why is the only definition of "High End" defined in relation to Price only? The definition should also include classyness, types of services and the "experience" provided.
Kym-
I agree, a higher class of services provided should also be discussed on this board, not just the providers who are high cost in-house types.
Not the same as what I was talking about. I am all for banning, or at least frowning on, any comments from knuckleheads who say "could have gotten the same from jane doe for 1/3 the price....." what I'm talking about is
(1) why everyone is taxing their brains trying to put a "floor" on the prices (i.e., cost) of providers who can be reviewed here in this board., when no reciprocal "ceiling" is placed in the cheap thrills area?
(2) why is the only definition of "High End" defined in relation to Price only? The definition should also include classyness, types of services and the "experience" provided.
Kym-
I agree, a higher class of services provided should also be discussed on this board, not just the providers who are high cost in-house types.
Good question, Kym
IMHO
The phrase "high-end" goes way beyond the woman's physical beauty and her physical expertise. I don't book long term sessions (4+ hour; overnights) with a provider solely on these two attributes. I like to enjoy a "total woman". These ladies do provide something extra beyond # cups, etc. Yes, that can include a fine dinner with good conversation, perhaps a bath together, a massage together, etc. Sometimes there can be a woman who charges less than our proposed "cut-off" ($500/hr) but she is so good as a "total date" that it is hard not to see her for LESS THAN an overnight session - for me she would be a "high end" lady.But that's just my personal definition.
For this thread I think we are trying to be more objective. I'm sure there are many ladies that charge much >$500/hr who can also provide the above; those are the ones we're looking to identify as 'high end."
Just my 2 cents.
Luvdaty
p.s. I prefer coffee, but in your case I definitely would make an exception!!!
IMHO
The phrase "high-end" goes way beyond the woman's physical beauty and her physical expertise. I don't book long term sessions (4+ hour; overnights) with a provider solely on these two attributes. I like to enjoy a "total woman". These ladies do provide something extra beyond # cups, etc. Yes, that can include a fine dinner with good conversation, perhaps a bath together, a massage together, etc. Sometimes there can be a woman who charges less than our proposed "cut-off" ($500/hr) but she is so good as a "total date" that it is hard not to see her for LESS THAN an overnight session - for me she would be a "high end" lady.But that's just my personal definition.
For this thread I think we are trying to be more objective. I'm sure there are many ladies that charge much >$500/hr who can also provide the above; those are the ones we're looking to identify as 'high end."
Just my 2 cents.
Luvdaty
p.s. I prefer coffee, but in your case I definitely would make an exception!!!
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md...
the problem with #2 is that some people here think domino IS a classy experience. thus the need to draw a line on price. thats why 500 is a good line, cause it's LOW for high end yet allows girls who thrive at that rate to be included here. i know several girls in the 400 range who are classy and smart and who can be taken to any restuarant or affair but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
the problem with #2 is that some people here think domino IS a classy experience. thus the need to draw a line on price. thats why 500 is a good line, cause it's LOW for high end yet allows girls who thrive at that rate to be included here. i know several girls in the 400 range who are classy and smart and who can be taken to any restuarant or affair but a line needs to be drawn somewhere.
I think the whole idea was simply to deal with and separate high end as a function of price and not as a function of service. Obviously, there will be some discussion that X who charges $600 does not provide the level of service the poster desired or expected. The same could and is posted elsewhere for woman who charge less. This simply high end as a function of price.
Skellychamp is so correct....
Some people here sure like to make things more complicated than necessary. Some of you gents just have a preternatural disposition for antagonism. I bet for some of you, if you were left by yourself, you would have cause to find something to argue about with yourself. This comment was born out of frustration at reading this thread.
This is simple. Create a price point (a set bench mark), keep it as a constant, and discuss the variability of services provide by each provider for said benchmark. If you like sex and tea for that price then you know who does it. If dinner and a great conversation are given for a specific price so be it. Hey this is the same concept currently used in the reviews you see about anything. It is not rocket science. Besides some of you have already stated the obvious and I wonder why this discussion continues.
As a matter of fact the review of Beatriz is indicative of what I am referring to. Here is a lady, who on an hourly rate basis (highly suggested as the benchmark), and from a review seemed to offer a very average experience with a very attractive woman. My personal opinion is for her price point I would like her to suck the stone out of a cherry. This I compare with some reviews I’ve seen about Anne Malle, the porn star. Who is double Beatriz’s price, but whose reviews make me think that I might use bonus money to see her some day. Based on reviews, she apparently rocks you like you will never ever be rocked in your life. To me she sounds like a ride in a Ferrari.
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Some people here sure like to make things more complicated than necessary. Some of you gents just have a preternatural disposition for antagonism. I bet for some of you, if you were left by yourself, you would have cause to find something to argue about with yourself. This comment was born out of frustration at reading this thread.
This is simple. Create a price point (a set bench mark), keep it as a constant, and discuss the variability of services provide by each provider for said benchmark. If you like sex and tea for that price then you know who does it. If dinner and a great conversation are given for a specific price so be it. Hey this is the same concept currently used in the reviews you see about anything. It is not rocket science. Besides some of you have already stated the obvious and I wonder why this discussion continues.
As a matter of fact the review of Beatriz is indicative of what I am referring to. Here is a lady, who on an hourly rate basis (highly suggested as the benchmark), and from a review seemed to offer a very average experience with a very attractive woman. My personal opinion is for her price point I would like her to suck the stone out of a cherry. This I compare with some reviews I’ve seen about Anne Malle, the porn star. Who is double Beatriz’s price, but whose reviews make me think that I might use bonus money to see her some day. Based on reviews, she apparently rocks you like you will never ever be rocked in your life. To me she sounds like a ride in a Ferrari.
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Anne Malle, Ryan Conner, JR Carrington and Taylor St Claire are all porn stars who have great track records. the latter two of which i can personally vouch for.
a few i've had great recomendations from reliable sources include....
Sky, Nicci Sterling, Leanna Foxxx and Jenna Jameson. the last of which will run you a minimum of 10G for a 4 hr date.
a few i've had great recomendations from reliable sources include....
Sky, Nicci Sterling, Leanna Foxxx and Jenna Jameson. the last of which will run you a minimum of 10G for a 4 hr date.
Now we are talking...
Okay...let the information exchange commence....
So my next question would be: for the caliber of woman, type of service, etc... who is a bargain within this price point range? For this price range are any of the providers at the lower range able to equal or surpass other model type providers in this price bracket.
Oz, in your case I know you liked the skinny Brazillian girls a great deal- did they match up with the porn stars? Could the Brazillian girls be the poor man's surrogate porn star. I hear great things about OET's Shannon. Heck for her price she seems a bargain compared to the Ryan O'Conner's of the world for a similar service ( I am not into greek)- thanx OET for the info.
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Okay...let the information exchange commence....
So my next question would be: for the caliber of woman, type of service, etc... who is a bargain within this price point range? For this price range are any of the providers at the lower range able to equal or surpass other model type providers in this price bracket.
Oz, in your case I know you liked the skinny Brazillian girls a great deal- did they match up with the porn stars? Could the Brazillian girls be the poor man's surrogate porn star. I hear great things about OET's Shannon. Heck for her price she seems a bargain compared to the Ryan O'Conner's of the world for a similar service ( I am not into greek)- thanx OET for the info.
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