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desilove

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Monk said:
or an online ad in Eros, CityVibe, etc. .
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ok ive been meaning to ask a question..i have an ad on cityvibe BUT i did NOTplace it...it is a very oldpost from CL that someone apparently cut and paste and advert for me..i hv *****ed repeatedly to the site to hv it removed explaining i never placed it and i get NO reply..i get atleast 10 *****s from this ad a day and never take or reply to an app request to this ad..so can someone pls explain to me what is this city vibe and how did my ad get on it?
 
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fairemily

fairemily

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desilove said:
ok ive been meaning to ask a question..i have an ad on cityvibe BUT i did NOTplace it...it is a very oldpost from CL that someone apparently cut and paste and advert for me..i hv *****ed repeatedly to the site to hv it removed explaining i never placed it and i get NO reply..i get atleast 10 *****s from this ad a day and never take or reply to an app request to this ad..so can someone pls explain to me what is this city vibe and how did my ad get on it?
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I am also on cityvibe and I never placed an ad. What is the deal?
 
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desilove

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fairemily said:
I am also on cityvibe and I never placed an ad. What is the deal?
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wish i knew...i know its been up for a good 5 months..i startedgetting replies to it back in may i think but never new what people meant when they said they found me on cityvibe but since it was in my cl inbox i figured it was some new name for craigslist until recently...they sure arent helpful to having it taken donw...from what i found so far city vibe has some connection to TERs but i never placed an ad on aters either...xox
 
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UG Staff

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Cityvibe has done that for a long time. They also have a cross posting deal with ***. At least they stopped doing it and then extortting the girls when they wouldn't pay for the ad. One girl apparently got pissed off about it, so they posted her ad as a TS. Read back issues here about it.
 
fairemily

fairemily

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UG Staff said:
Cityvibe has done that for a long time. They also have a cross posting deal with ***. At least they stopped doing it and then extortting the girls when they wouldn't pay for the ad. One girl apparently got pissed off about it, so they posted her ad as a TS. Read back issues here about it.
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That's horrible. I was always told to stay away from cityvibe before I even advertised on the Internet. I never asked to to take it down in case I did put it up and forgot but I will now.
 
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desilove

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fairemily said:
That's horrible. I was always told to stay away from cityvibe before I even advertised on the Internet. I never asked to to take it down in case I did put it up and forgot but I will now.
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good luck emily..i hv been asking for it to be removed for over a month now and havent even goteen a reply...let me know if you hv better success then i am...xox
 
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LaylaSouth

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intersting links

humsuplo said:
Since being brought out, the NYPress is on a campaign to rid itself of "explicit advertising."

http://adweek.blogs.com/adfreak/2007/08/ny-press-escort.html
http://www.observer.com/2007/new-york-press-layoffs-circulation-drop-and-no-more-hooker-ads
http://nopornnorthampton.org/2007/0...rketing-arm-for-prostitution-trafficking.aspx
http://www.nysun.com/article/60598?page_no=1
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Some very imformative info .
No wonder CL gets so much traffic now days ...
 
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Monk

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Well, the fact is that CL has been getting a lot of traffic, regardless. A question that comes to mind is whether it's the same traffic. Are the same people who used to look for escort ads in NY Press migrating online. Or, are they two distinctly different markets? (Some people on this board have suggested that the online community actually represents a small portion of the total market, for example. And, often, the same people who read hardcopy newspapers aren't the same people who go online for their news.)
 
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Tall New Yorker

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Aside from the political pressure from NOW, this is a horrible business move for NYP. From my own experience, the publication's ads have a minimal response rate to the point where I terminated a contract for a "straight" business For his own sake, I hope the new owner has a reasonable plan to turn things around. The adult ads may be the most successful ones in his publication.
 
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PhoenixAdult

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Cityvibe has done that for a long time. They also have a cross posting deal with ***. At least they stopped doing it and then extortting the girls when they wouldn't pay for the ad. One girl apparently got pissed off about it, so they posted her ad as a TS. Read back issues here about it.
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I'm bumping this old thread after being linked from it somewhere else. But this is definitely a common complaint I have heard from girls placing ads with me. They ask me if I know anything about CV because they are constantly getting calls asking for them to place an ad or from someone saying they saw them on there. I think the site is poorly designed and can't compete with others that are more organized.

And I love that these publications are admitting to losing all that money, but feel its best for them. Our paper has news, arts, and the adult section. Adult is a completely separate pull out section, yet some retail advertisers refuse to spend money with us using the excuse they don't want to be associated with adult content. Not once has the publisher ever considered dropping the adult content. These retail advertisers realize they need us more than we need them and advertise anyways. Not having adult would kill our circulation.
 
Slinky Bender

Slinky Bender

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BTW The Village Voice is making a fucking mint off their Adult section, now mor than ever that the direct competitors (i.e. the other papers in those plastic boxes on every corner*).


* I think they are protecxted somehow by the First Amendment, but I personally think it's total bullshit that all these papers get free placement wherever they feel like. They should have to pay some City tax or som,ething for each box each year. Think of the revenue which the city sorely needs right now.
 
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Monk

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There has been a bunch of litigation over this in New York and, I think, the upshot is that free publications are allowed access to the streets on First Amendment grounds. However, you'll see in certain neighborhoods where the BIDs (Business Improvement Districts), which are semi-privately run organizations, have paid for specially constructed newspaper stands to cut down on the clutter.
 
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PhoenixAdult

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They tried changing the rules of what the stands could look like here, but nothing ever came of it. Our boxes are solid bright red plastic with a front window. For security they were going to require all boxes to be clear with certain measurement. It could only have one logo as well. We had the boxes made and used them as test boxes. They looked horrible and apparently the rule was never upheld as no other publication has followed through. There are so many free publications in Boston, reducing clutter would be nice, but I don't see it happening.
 
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Monk

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The boxes I'm referring to are about six or eight feet wide and divided up so that each publication has its own space. There's a door with a clear plastic window for each pub, and I think its name is stenciled in white above its window. Something like that, anyway. I think the boxes are painted dark green, and they are kept more or less neat by the BID's employees, who are out on the streets collecting garbage throughout the day.
 
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PistlPete

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Well, it's now 8 years later and I've decided to hijack my own thread to take a look at the state of print ads for providers and I can see that it's is hanging by a bare thread. Th NY Press/ Our Town / The Spirit /Downtown or whatever it is called now is a flimsy rag as thin as some department store circulars. Their massage ads have been reduced to one ('by Melissa"). Even Emerita doesn't advertise there anymore and she had been there since I can remember.
The Voice is lucky to reach 50 (or was it 40?) pages long. If you take out the phone sex and gay ads, their bodywork (MP and escort) ads barely cover a quarter of a page. I wonder how effective these print ads are for the providers? Are there mongers who actually pick up a VV with the thought of finding someplace to go?
 
Banacek

Banacek

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Not only did the Voice see this trend coming, they actually contributed to it through their ownership of Backpage itself. With the divestiture they did of their newspapers, I think the owners of the paper and BP are different now.
 
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Monk

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Digital advertising has killed the print ad business, but not just in the hobby. Classified ads in general have migrated online.

BTW, Banacek, it was the other way round: the Village Voice was purchased some years ago by a company that owns several of alternative newsweeklies across the country. BackPage grew out of that consolidation. Eventually, pressure from various groups, including law enforcement, convinced them to split the two businesses and to relegate the hobbying ads to BP. (I've simplified the ownership story, but these are essentially the facts.)

Let's face it, if you're looking for provider ads these days, the last place you go is to the back of one of these newsweeklies. You hop online.
 
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