Non Prescription Pills for Hard Erections
- Thread starter J. Lefty
- Start date
I responded to these posts in a more appropriate location, the "Viagra, Cialis???" thread since it involves prescription pills: https://utopiaguide.pl/forums/index.php?threads/viagra-cialis.38805/page-10#post-1184759
About 25 years ago, I was working night and day, sometimes going without sleep for over 48 hours, traveling for work and abusing myself to keep pace with mortgage and wife and kids and all that. Was drinking a lot of coffee (Timothy's) Great coffee. (I don't know if they are still around.)
I had to pull another all-nighter and had the good/bad idea of instead of another cup of coffee, hop into the GNC and get an herbal supplement. Bought something called RX8 with the Chinese herb "ma-huang" and was wide awake for the next 72 hours. Coffee would have been the safer choice. That introduced me to the world of "NON-NATURAL HERBAL DRUG-LIKE SUPPLEMENTS." They use words like "natural herbal supplements" but in reality they are made in a lab like any other drug. (NATURAL WHOLE HERBS GROUND TO POWDER OR BOILED ARE THE EXCEPTION)
Anyway, I became a regular shopper at GNC and noticed a plexiglass box with a lock on it containing about 10 different types of pricey herbal sex stimulants. I eventually bought them all and started experimenting. Started becoming addicted. They worked but the quality of sex declined. I lost my ability to have complete control of orgasm. My erection lost that natural friendly feel. It became more plastic. And, I was addicted. It was no longer a supplement or experiment. I was afraid to go without it. I was taking a lot of junk. Back then in the local pharmacy chains had a section totally devoted to sexual stimulants. (they still do) And even the Chinese herb stores did and still have their sex corner. I enjoyed the experimentation of trying them all. Also they offered circulation of blood to the brain which kept me alert for work.
After a while I did not like the way I felt and my total dependence on the substancces.
I read a book on Macrobiotics and went cold-turkey off the pills and ate a lot of grains and porridge and beans miso and greens and roots and after about 10 days, I was back to that natural full plump real-feel heavy engorged experience in "the boys" that the pills hijacked.
With a hectic life that we all have and nobody has the discipline to stay on a rigid severe diet like that 10 days but I gradually just incorporated real good natural food in my diet and only good quality herbal supplements. I don't want my body to lose its natural ability to create hormones and digest and assimilate food to be stored as sexual energy when I need it.
I realize that "this hobby" is for the guys like us that want "more" and more demands are put on our bodies, hence the need for some "help" from substances. But you are still a natural piece of this earth. You need plenty of sleep and nourishment to remain a "strong monger" in many venues throughout the world into the twilight of your lives or until you truly "had enough."
IMHO, and in my experience bombarding the system with stimulants could sacrifice quality and real-strength.
I put myself on the "90/10 Rule." That is 90% natural, good nourishing foods and exercise, sleep and happiness so that my body never loses the habit of manufacturing its own semen in abundance. And the 10% is the "help" allowing for an older existence. But that "help" should be as close to natural as possible. That includes ginseng root powdered or boiled (sold in all Chinese herbal stores and ginseng is about 80% of their business) and combinations of other herbs that are known as formulas handed down from the past. There are many.
Horny goat weed, for me, is "the cocaine of sexual stimulants" in both its natural (boiling the leaves) form and in it's semi-natural state which is a pure extract. I can't use the extract form of horny goat weed (yin yang huo is the chinese name) because if I did I would have to take up residence in a bordello. It really causes the body to produce semen. But it does not address blood circulation. (I stopped taking horny goat weed because it is too powerful for me at this time.) Actually, when your body is no longer depleted from too much loss of semen and too much stress and hard work, you reach a level of better health and just food and rest alone are sufficient to keep you very virile. When you were younger, this whole conversation would have been nonsensical.
Some of you guys are amazing. I am not even in your league. Some of you guys, from
what I see, cover a huge amount of territory and see many many providers (from what I can gather) in a single day. I tip my hat to you "SUPER-MONGERS." Maybe some of you never touch stimulants and pay no special attention to diet. (I salute you) Even in my youth I never enjoyed that kind of prowess.
But, you have to take what you got and make that work at top efficiency but my only point is "don't ruin what you got." Take care of it, the same as you would take care of your car. We are given this body and it is vital to be tip-top for experiencing the pleasures of a lady.
Thank you for your patience, boys. You are all my friends and we all share the same strong desire and I know it is a long drawn out speech but I never want to see somebody potentially hurt their body. We gather here to exchange ideas and to help each other out. Each one of us has a different perspective and contributes value. Peace, brothers.
I had to pull another all-nighter and had the good/bad idea of instead of another cup of coffee, hop into the GNC and get an herbal supplement. Bought something called RX8 with the Chinese herb "ma-huang" and was wide awake for the next 72 hours. Coffee would have been the safer choice. That introduced me to the world of "NON-NATURAL HERBAL DRUG-LIKE SUPPLEMENTS." They use words like "natural herbal supplements" but in reality they are made in a lab like any other drug. (NATURAL WHOLE HERBS GROUND TO POWDER OR BOILED ARE THE EXCEPTION)
Anyway, I became a regular shopper at GNC and noticed a plexiglass box with a lock on it containing about 10 different types of pricey herbal sex stimulants. I eventually bought them all and started experimenting. Started becoming addicted. They worked but the quality of sex declined. I lost my ability to have complete control of orgasm. My erection lost that natural friendly feel. It became more plastic. And, I was addicted. It was no longer a supplement or experiment. I was afraid to go without it. I was taking a lot of junk. Back then in the local pharmacy chains had a section totally devoted to sexual stimulants. (they still do) And even the Chinese herb stores did and still have their sex corner. I enjoyed the experimentation of trying them all. Also they offered circulation of blood to the brain which kept me alert for work.
After a while I did not like the way I felt and my total dependence on the substancces.
I read a book on Macrobiotics and went cold-turkey off the pills and ate a lot of grains and porridge and beans miso and greens and roots and after about 10 days, I was back to that natural full plump real-feel heavy engorged experience in "the boys" that the pills hijacked.
With a hectic life that we all have and nobody has the discipline to stay on a rigid severe diet like that 10 days but I gradually just incorporated real good natural food in my diet and only good quality herbal supplements. I don't want my body to lose its natural ability to create hormones and digest and assimilate food to be stored as sexual energy when I need it.
I realize that "this hobby" is for the guys like us that want "more" and more demands are put on our bodies, hence the need for some "help" from substances. But you are still a natural piece of this earth. You need plenty of sleep and nourishment to remain a "strong monger" in many venues throughout the world into the twilight of your lives or until you truly "had enough."
IMHO, and in my experience bombarding the system with stimulants could sacrifice quality and real-strength.
I put myself on the "90/10 Rule." That is 90% natural, good nourishing foods and exercise, sleep and happiness so that my body never loses the habit of manufacturing its own semen in abundance. And the 10% is the "help" allowing for an older existence. But that "help" should be as close to natural as possible. That includes ginseng root powdered or boiled (sold in all Chinese herbal stores and ginseng is about 80% of their business) and combinations of other herbs that are known as formulas handed down from the past. There are many.
Horny goat weed, for me, is "the cocaine of sexual stimulants" in both its natural (boiling the leaves) form and in it's semi-natural state which is a pure extract. I can't use the extract form of horny goat weed (yin yang huo is the chinese name) because if I did I would have to take up residence in a bordello. It really causes the body to produce semen. But it does not address blood circulation. (I stopped taking horny goat weed because it is too powerful for me at this time.) Actually, when your body is no longer depleted from too much loss of semen and too much stress and hard work, you reach a level of better health and just food and rest alone are sufficient to keep you very virile. When you were younger, this whole conversation would have been nonsensical.
Some of you guys are amazing. I am not even in your league. Some of you guys, from
what I see, cover a huge amount of territory and see many many providers (from what I can gather) in a single day. I tip my hat to you "SUPER-MONGERS." Maybe some of you never touch stimulants and pay no special attention to diet. (I salute you) Even in my youth I never enjoyed that kind of prowess.
But, you have to take what you got and make that work at top efficiency but my only point is "don't ruin what you got." Take care of it, the same as you would take care of your car. We are given this body and it is vital to be tip-top for experiencing the pleasures of a lady.
Thank you for your patience, boys. You are all my friends and we all share the same strong desire and I know it is a long drawn out speech but I never want to see somebody potentially hurt their body. We gather here to exchange ideas and to help each other out. Each one of us has a different perspective and contributes value. Peace, brothers.
Mugi, you the man! Thanks for the advice.
I eliminated the yohimbe two weeks ago and have gotten much better results. Today I was able to let her play with my cock, alternating licking, stroking, deep throat and slow sucking for a good 15 minutes of teasing and it didn't take me any where near the edge like the first few meetings.
Resulted in much longer fucking sessions. Before with the yohimbe I was straining not to bust before I was fully hard and had to keep stopping her. Today her mouth and tongue were all over my cock without a break and it just served to make me hard as a rock.
Thanks.
I eliminated the yohimbe two weeks ago and have gotten much better results. Today I was able to let her play with my cock, alternating licking, stroking, deep throat and slow sucking for a good 15 minutes of teasing and it didn't take me any where near the edge like the first few meetings.
Resulted in much longer fucking sessions. Before with the yohimbe I was straining not to bust before I was fully hard and had to keep stopping her. Today her mouth and tongue were all over my cock without a break and it just served to make me hard as a rock.
Thanks.
On another note I had a long talk with the owner of the local GNC the other night. She kind of confirmed what was mentioned in this thread.
She noticed for a while all the guys wanted Exzite (sp?) but then there was a recall and when it came back out everyone told her it didn't work anymore. So my guess is that it had sidfel and the government made them take it out.
Same she was telling me about a product called Forta. Same thing, everyone wanted it, the a recall now no one wants it anymore.
She told me the new thing everybody is buying is Gentrix (sp?). Comes in a green bottle.
I mixed one with some Horny Goat weed this morning and got great long lasting wood along with an intense orgasm.
Been going thru a lot of stress IRL lately which has been affecting the libido so it will be interesting to see what happens when things calm down and I use this combo.
She noticed for a while all the guys wanted Exzite (sp?) but then there was a recall and when it came back out everyone told her it didn't work anymore. So my guess is that it had sidfel and the government made them take it out.
Same she was telling me about a product called Forta. Same thing, everyone wanted it, the a recall now no one wants it anymore.
She told me the new thing everybody is buying is Gentrix (sp?). Comes in a green bottle.
I mixed one with some Horny Goat weed this morning and got great long lasting wood along with an intense orgasm.
Been going thru a lot of stress IRL lately which has been affecting the libido so it will be interesting to see what happens when things calm down and I use this combo.
Billy, be smart. Enjoy yourself. Keep it safe. Use them but try to stay a bit under the recommended dose. You sound young and strong and maybe you just need a little something extra to keep the session interesting. Try sometimes to take nothing when you are not "engaged" just to give your body a rest from overstimulation and to see where you are at naturally. As a base, oatmeal, (non-GMO) grains and buckwheat and beans, eggs will fuel your body well. Because just imagine taking a bunch of sex-stims and depriving your body of good food and rest and leisure; it would takes its toll on you. A small glass of POM pomegranate juice (sold in Costco) is great to stay naturally sexually strong and the antioxidants will help wash away the negative side-effects of too many stimulants to some degree. Listen to and observe and monitor your body closely. Remember this odd fact that in reality it is your body giving you 90% of the pleasure and she is the missing link that makes the whole act possible. But all the pleasure takes place within your field of sensation so your instrument of sensation (your body and psyche) must be a wealth of health. When you are super strong, calm and fixed like a stud in full control of your orgasm she becomes a flood of ecstasy and there is nothing she won't do for you. Peace and Health Brother(s).
Exact same thing (recalls) happened with Black Ant couple years ago, dried ground up "special" ants put in pill form. Turns out it also had 200mg of sildenafil (generic V). I take 20mg and works just fine so 200 mg would have caused major effect.
Sounds like FDA is playing wack-a-mole with all these "natural" enhancement stuff. I guess FDA has a lot of free time on its hands.
Sounds like FDA is playing wack-a-mole with all these "natural" enhancement stuff. I guess FDA has a lot of free time on its hands.
You may or may not. I take 5mg daily along with Flomax for prostate. The 5mg has made a difference, but as I take it daily and can have effects for 36 hours, i guess it would be like taking 7.5 mg at once. It depends on how sensitive your system to it is, body weight, need for help, diet, psych, blah, blah, etc. Many years ago I experimented with C to see what it did in terms of erections. i had 20mgs and cut them in half. 10mg at once was plenty to get an incredible hardon, to the point that the object of my affection that evening said "does that thing of yours ever go down?"
I have never tried Vydox Plus, nor "C" nor "V" for that matter but have always studied and made my own "concoctions." But on paper, looking at the ingredients of Vydox Plus, (on paper) (from a balancing herbal point of view) it looks to be like an intelligent formula. I say that because it has herbs to strengthen kidney/adrenal system and herbs for circulation and concentrated black pepper for absorption and saw palmetto to address the prostate issue. The danger with most formulas is the possible impact in the future on enlarging the prostate because the stimulation not only engorges the penis but also all seminal vessels. Holistically, the formula in Vydox Plus looks healthy but one never knows because the printed ingredients of the names of the plants used could undergo chemical changes when they undergo changes in the laboratory when converted into extracts of herbs. I love to study all formulas because sometimes these herbal formulas translates into strength and vitality and awareness even outside of the bedroom. And the goal for me is to feel good and healthy all the time. The bedroom act could end after a few hours but before and after the act, the body and mind and emotions should be in a very healthy relaxed and strong state. IMHO. I once took some "wild ginseng" and some "yin yang huo" and the result was never ending hard-ons and impressive feedback from the ladies who all got satisfied and I looked like a bedroom hero because the erection was always present and the girls got their multiple orgasms and it was great for my ego, emotionally because I felt like Ron Jeremy (old school porn star) but the tremendous over-stimulation with constantly engorged prostate left me feeling uncomfortable outside of the bedroom in daily life. All I am saying is find a good formula that gives you the edge and confidence that you need without over-use because you need to be healthy inside and outside of the bedroom for many more years hopefully. And I know that my opinion runs counter to the mainstream opinion of a "monger" who mostly wants "answers now instantaneously" but life is truly whole and your body must be healthy and sound and "purring" inside and outside of the bedroom.
Thanks for your input and education as always, @mugi ...
Your advice is holistic ... I'm hole-istic!
I probably should think like you do. As a member of the Instant Gratification Society of America, I want answers NOW. Your answers are for NOW and Always.
Not yet at a point where I need "supplements" regularly - but probably not that far off.
V
Your advice is holistic ... I'm hole-istic!
I probably should think like you do. As a member of the Instant Gratification Society of America, I want answers NOW. Your answers are for NOW and Always.
Not yet at a point where I need "supplements" regularly - but probably not that far off.
V
Wow- Mugi sounds like one of those medicine men you see in the old Kung-Fu movies. Herbs and concoctions for every malady. Thanks to him this thread has been beyond educational.
Now I return to lurking and reading about the natural way to keep my member virile as I gray with age. BTW- Mugi if you ever wish to publish your knowledge on natural remedies for ED I will happily work on the book with you.
Who said Utopiaguide does not offer benefits beyond sharing info on mongering?!?!
Regards,
Pops
Now I return to lurking and reading about the natural way to keep my member virile as I gray with age. BTW- Mugi if you ever wish to publish your knowledge on natural remedies for ED I will happily work on the book with you.
Who said Utopiaguide does not offer benefits beyond sharing info on mongering?!?!
Regards,
Pops