Message in a bottle
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What about people who cut themselves or mutilate themselves? (common among teenage girls) What about anorexia nervosa? What about "The Rain Man" who beat his head against the wall? What about me, who has no children nor financial problems and yet repeatedly gets into trouble with myself and others by posting here and elsewhere? I must be a masochist for answering you - but if you think the pleasure principle rules - you should talk to young people more - suicide attempts (painful ones) are not uncommon among teenagers. And I've counseled beautiful young girls who slice their arms up with knives. Please do not answer my posts with ridiculous comments - I feel compelled to explain myself.
What about people who cut themselves or mutilate themselves? (common among teenage girls) What about anorexia nervosa? What about "The Rain Man" who beat his head against the wall? What about me, who has no children nor financial problems and yet repeatedly gets into trouble with myself and others by posting here and elsewhere? I must be a masochist for answering you - but if you think the pleasure principle rules - you should talk to young people more - suicide attempts (painful ones) are not uncommon among teenagers. And I've counseled beautiful young girls who slice their arms up with knives. Please do not answer my posts with ridiculous comments - I feel compelled to explain myself.
A cat jumps on a hot stove, think that cat's gonna jump on any stoves after that? - I think that's all that was meant.
But I think that Candy's making a different point. Often people become strangely fascinated with the circumstances of a traumatic experience (I know that's happened to me). Still, much like the examples she's cited, this behavior isn't really healthy (I know it's been unhealthy for me). Guy's response (I think) is talking about healthy reactions to pain...
But I think that Candy's making a different point. Often people become strangely fascinated with the circumstances of a traumatic experience (I know that's happened to me). Still, much like the examples she's cited, this behavior isn't really healthy (I know it's been unhealthy for me). Guy's response (I think) is talking about healthy reactions to pain...
Candide, it's insulting to characterize someone's posts as 'ridiculous' (although my friend justme also characterizes my posts as "rediculous".) if you were not smart and bookish, and if i were not dumb and sexy, i would think you didn't like me!
you write, "What about me, who has no children nor financial problems and yet repeatedly gets into trouble with myself and others by posting here and elsewhere?"
imo, that is a very good question, Candide. please correct me if you again feel i have misread you. but, my current understanding is that you were bookish and a (virtual) sexual innocent until sometime past the age of 35. then, while on AOL, you learned that men like oral sex, and that some of them would pay money to have it.
you then spent a year or so advertising yourself as available for paid-in-advance encounters with men. however, in the event, once a man had gone to the trouble you had induced him to undertake, you would back out (turning all convention on its head -- the usual problem being the client backing out).
at some point, you were traumatized by what had been written about you on jag, something i am in complete sympathy with. that's why i don't like jag; hence, i don't go there.
you, however, assumed a false identity as a male client to return to the source of your pain. (to those who are unfamiliar with jag, this is not as difficult as it might seem. when i arrived there, clients were having great difficulty determining a provider's gender, even in personam, sans culottes!)
at some point while you were at jag, you picked a fight with the best friend any escort ever had, Ozzy, and succeeded in provoking him into getting himself suspended.
you then followed him over here, and proceeded to make us all paranoid with your gender-bender morphing as a civilian woman pretending to be an escort pretending to be a male client pretending to be an escort.
once your deception was uncovered, you proceeded to accuse the APM and Ozzy of having done you wrong! then, with much bathos, you announced you were leaving, never to return.
a day later, you are back, basking in all of the attention your melodrama has attracted. someone here asked the reasonable question: if, as you suggest, the stove is burning your behind off, why do you continue to sit down on it? you brushed off this sensible question with a reply to the effect that people "often" sit on a stove while their ass burns off.
i replied that such cases do not occur "often"; they occur rarely. you responded by calling this statement 'ridiculous', and then proceeded to list a number of other examples of bizarre behavior that a small percentage of people engage in. the question you were originally asked is legitimate: if this place is so painful for you, what are you still doing here?
i think the answer is obvious. so, my question to you is: will you go out on a date with me this coming saturday?
[Edited by guy catelli on 02-22-2001 at 09:24 PM]
you write, "What about me, who has no children nor financial problems and yet repeatedly gets into trouble with myself and others by posting here and elsewhere?"
imo, that is a very good question, Candide. please correct me if you again feel i have misread you. but, my current understanding is that you were bookish and a (virtual) sexual innocent until sometime past the age of 35. then, while on AOL, you learned that men like oral sex, and that some of them would pay money to have it.
you then spent a year or so advertising yourself as available for paid-in-advance encounters with men. however, in the event, once a man had gone to the trouble you had induced him to undertake, you would back out (turning all convention on its head -- the usual problem being the client backing out).
at some point, you were traumatized by what had been written about you on jag, something i am in complete sympathy with. that's why i don't like jag; hence, i don't go there.
you, however, assumed a false identity as a male client to return to the source of your pain. (to those who are unfamiliar with jag, this is not as difficult as it might seem. when i arrived there, clients were having great difficulty determining a provider's gender, even in personam, sans culottes!)
at some point while you were at jag, you picked a fight with the best friend any escort ever had, Ozzy, and succeeded in provoking him into getting himself suspended.
you then followed him over here, and proceeded to make us all paranoid with your gender-bender morphing as a civilian woman pretending to be an escort pretending to be a male client pretending to be an escort.
once your deception was uncovered, you proceeded to accuse the APM and Ozzy of having done you wrong! then, with much bathos, you announced you were leaving, never to return.
a day later, you are back, basking in all of the attention your melodrama has attracted. someone here asked the reasonable question: if, as you suggest, the stove is burning your behind off, why do you continue to sit down on it? you brushed off this sensible question with a reply to the effect that people "often" sit on a stove while their ass burns off.
i replied that such cases do not occur "often"; they occur rarely. you responded by calling this statement 'ridiculous', and then proceeded to list a number of other examples of bizarre behavior that a small percentage of people engage in. the question you were originally asked is legitimate: if this place is so painful for you, what are you still doing here?
i think the answer is obvious. so, my question to you is: will you go out on a date with me this coming saturday?
[Edited by guy catelli on 02-22-2001 at 09:24 PM]
Guy --
I'm afraid I must disagree. Ozzy attacking Candide on UG for issues he had with her at JAG is no more appropriate than you attacking myself, Mr.P or A1N for issues you had with any of us in another forum.
Although I haven't read all of her posts, as far as I can discern, Candide was going about her business on UG when this matter was brought up by others. I also disagree with your assessment of her posts as "gender bending", but that is really beside the point. The bottom line is that she is as entitled to privacy as you or I and her outing by those who were privy to certain info and used it against her was simply wrong. I would feel exactly the same way if any of the other UG contributers who had made the effort to chose a different handle for their contributions to this forum, presumably for the purpose of maintaining some form of anonymity, were wrongly identified by their JAG or other prostitution board handles.
Lastly, I'll refrain from addressing the issue of who was ganging up on Candide, but I do find it curious that this attack was allowed to occur in the first place. I've seen several more benign posts deleted, so it does lead one to wonder as to what exactly the editorial standards are.
Regards,
WSB
I'm afraid I must disagree. Ozzy attacking Candide on UG for issues he had with her at JAG is no more appropriate than you attacking myself, Mr.P or A1N for issues you had with any of us in another forum.
Although I haven't read all of her posts, as far as I can discern, Candide was going about her business on UG when this matter was brought up by others. I also disagree with your assessment of her posts as "gender bending", but that is really beside the point. The bottom line is that she is as entitled to privacy as you or I and her outing by those who were privy to certain info and used it against her was simply wrong. I would feel exactly the same way if any of the other UG contributers who had made the effort to chose a different handle for their contributions to this forum, presumably for the purpose of maintaining some form of anonymity, were wrongly identified by their JAG or other prostitution board handles.
Lastly, I'll refrain from addressing the issue of who was ganging up on Candide, but I do find it curious that this attack was allowed to occur in the first place. I've seen several more benign posts deleted, so it does lead one to wonder as to what exactly the editorial standards are.
Regards,
WSB