It's lonely at the .... well wherever it is that I am

Thorn

Thorn

#21
#21
It's funny, but I can sort of relate.

I retired from my main profession about a year and a half ago. I was mid-level management but an out spoken mover and shaker none-the-less so I was fairly well known among my own.

People told "Thorn" stories. I figured I had something of a legacy of sorts. Not present, but not forgotten. Man, oh man, was I wrong.

Eigteen months have gone by and already its becoming like I was never there. A whole sea of new faces, none of whom know who the fuck I am, or could care less. I was just like anyone else to them. A nobody. Worse. I was a nobody who wanted to tell them all about how I was a somebody. {laughing at myself}

We really do just fade away. Pretty quickly at that.
 
Gavvy Cravath

Gavvy Cravath

Moderator Emeritus
#23
#23
Slinky Bender said:
I still constantly hear stories about how I did this or that with this or that agencie girl or indpendent How I met some girl and coerced a freebie out of her. How I demand special treament for all sorts fo touring girls.

I only wish it were so. years ago I used to be someone in this business. Everyone who was anyone knew who i was and where I stood in the industry. Now, all I get is disrespect form all sides. Girls who take advantage of my good graces by nor paying their bills. I never get invited out anymore (and freebies, well that's not even a concept). I don't even get "how are you doing" emials when touring girl come thru town or asked out for coffee. All i get is BS "Oh, we'll get togather some time when I'm in town, and them blown off because there always seems to be something more pressing.

I don't know why I should be surprised. I'm not who I used to be, why should I get treated like I still am? I guess it would just be more respectful not to BS me, but look at the group who we are talkng about.

What's my point? You're only as good as the last $ you spent with these girls. It doens't matter what favors you've doen for them: those they "deserve" and have comming top them". If you are looking for any sort of reciprocitiy, you're bark up teh wrong tree. You want payback? Make slimey underground/backchannel deals for freebies with these girl, bercause thats the only thing they respect. And when they tell you they care about you and want to help, make sure to cover your wallet.
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This post hits way too close to home here, Slinky. It is very similar to my Roosevelt Avenue/b-girl scene. Yeeah, it's great getting all those calls from 6 different girls in the middle of the night. And the adoration you get when you come in; but it's all about the wallet.

And why don't they answer the calls at 3 PM on a Sunday (unless they know dinner/82nd Street/Queens Center is involved). Do I get laid as a result? Yeah, sometimes, but it's too much effort.

I don't feel very happy about myself when I allow this to happen to me.

Gavy
 
Gavvy Cravath

Gavvy Cravath

Moderator Emeritus
#24
#24
accnts said:
I think alot of people are hanging out with the wrong kind of women, with some of the things said on this board There are loving caring loyal, nurturing, healthy good looking women out there. Please find them.
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Please stop pointing out what I don't want to accept.
 
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bangbroads

#30
#30
Man oh man is this section depressing as hell! But its needed and show the real side to the hobby um "addiction" Sometimes I wonder am I misguided when I think my vice is better than all my friends who drink, snort, smoke, shoot, pop pills to numbness. Is gambling, drinkin really worse. I thought women and sex was more natural. The lesser of all the evils. I guess I was wrong. Im no better than my friend blowin snow up his nose on the daily. maybe this the worst hobby emotionally and monetarily. I dont know how some guys have dedicated their whole life to the game and gave up being square forever. I dont got it in me. I notice its only fun when you do it once in a blue. once it becomes habitual its not fun and gets worse with each visit. Strip clubs, brothels, outcalls, and streetwalkers the downfall of straight men who love the lady candy too much. maybe porn and playboy is where its at.
 
M

Monk

#31
#31
Thorn said:
It's funny, but I can sort of relate.

I retired from my main profession about a year and a half ago. I was mid-level management but an out spoken mover and shaker none-the-less so I was fairly well known among my own.

People told "Thorn" stories. I figured I had something of a legacy of sorts. Not present, but not forgotten. Man, oh man, was I wrong.

Eigteen months have gone by and already its becoming like I was never there. A whole sea of new faces, none of whom know who the fuck I am, or could care less. I was just like anyone else to them. A nobody. Worse. I was a nobody who wanted to tell them all about how I was a somebody. {laughing at myself}

We really do just fade away. Pretty quickly at that.
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That's so true. I think a lot of women face this issue when they leave their profession/career to raise kids, thinking that they can jump back in whenever they decide to go back. Well, it's never that easy.
 
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MrFreeze451

#32
#32
As I read this, all I could think was that Neil Young said it best....

"It's better to burn out
Than to fade away"


I love and relate to that quote and to the notion of fading away on so many levels....
 
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xango_de_sade

#39
#39
Greetings to one and all.

My thoughts, if it's getting boring STOP DOING IT. Exercise a little self-control. Take a break from it. The desire and fun element will come back quicker than you can imagine.

If you can stop doing something for 30 days you can stop doing it for LIFE if you want to. If you don't have control in this or any area of your life you're in trouble. Start with a more reasonable amount of time and work up to 30 days.

I'm going on 20 years in the music business now. Sometimes I get treated like absolute royalty, other times I get treated like a criminal or a homeless person. I've gotten freebies from girls, I've also gotten overcharged and bait-and-switched on occasion, but both things have been RARE. Most of the time I pay more or less what everybody else is paying. I guess that's why traditional Hinduism didn't allow people to receive gifts, it can skew your perceptions of things sometimes. Or Shakespeare's "neither a borrower nor a lender be", or the Tao Teh Ching, etc. I think there's a certain beauty in neither being on top of a situation nor on the bottom, but just being in balance.
 
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uNOwhoIam

#40
#40
Slinky Bender said:
I still constantly hear stories about how I did this or that with this or that agencie girl or indpendent How I met some girl and coerced a freebie out of her. How I demand special treament for all sorts fo touring girls.

I only wish it were so. years ago I used to be someone in this business. Everyone who was anyone knew who i was and where I stood in the industry. Now, all I get is disrespect form all sides. Girls who take advantage of my good graces by nor paying their bills. I never get invited out anymore (and freebies, well that's not even a concept). I don't even get "how are you doing" emials when touring girl come thru town or asked out for coffee. All i get is BS "Oh, we'll get togather some time when I'm in town, and them blown off because there always seems to be something more pressing.

I don't know why I should be surprised. I'm not who I used to be, why should I get treated like I still am? I guess it would just be more respectful not to BS me, but look at the group who we are talkng about.



What's my point? You're only as good as the last $ you spent with these girls. It doens't matter what favors you've doen for them: those they "deserve" and have comming top them". If you are looking for any sort of reciprocitiy, you're bark up teh wrong tree. You want payback? Make slimey underground/backchannel deals for freebies with these girl, bercause thats the only thing they respect. And when they tell you they care about you and want to help, make sure to cover your wallet.
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Sad life.
 
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