If cops followed the laws, then that advice would apply. Not all, but many cops on Long Island either do not know the laws, have no idea what the 4th amendment of the constitution even is, or they totally disregard them because they think their badge is above the law. They use the very loose term of “reasonable suspicion” or “probable cause” to illegaly stop you, rip you out of your car and search both you and your vehicle. Go ahead and use the “I don’t consent to a search without a warrant” speech and they will threaten to lock you up for “disorderly conduct”... another loose term that they can basically lie on the write up on the summons and say anything. Then you go to court and lose. That’s just the way it works. It’s not right, fair, or OK, but that’s the way it goes with a lot of LE.
I add these comments based off 2 personal experiences.
1) I once left a motel with a side piece, and was pulled over. I rolled down all the windows, turned the interior lights on, put my keys on the top of the car and stuck my hands out the window to show there was no threat of me fleeing or being a threat. Without a word being said, both me and the girl were grabbed by the arm with one hand while the officers used the other hand to open the car doors and violently pull us out of the car.
I was told they pulled me over because my tires hit the shoulder line (BS) while driving down the block. Then 3 other officers searched my car while the other 2 searched & questioned us extensively. I turned on my video on my iPhone and they smacked it out of my hand (cracking the screen) and threatened to lock me up for Disorderly. All of this after they ran my (clean) ID and were shown my 5 PBA cards.
They found nothing, But because I have tints which is now a “crime”... and in the greatest advice ever given on this board by the Genius himself, never commit 2 crimes at a time..They still harassed us, got somewhat physical but at the end they had nothing. This process took about 45 minutes. Luckily for me I had just had my car detailed that afternoon, but I still felt lucky that they didn’t they didn’t do what they did to
@chevyman53 friend in Freeport.
2) This one I’ll keep short. Back in the day I did a lot of bad things. I eventually got caught. In the interrogation room I caught a beat down. I was respectful and asked for a lawyer but instead I just got chocked, punched and was forced to sign a confession. I signed it after a few hours of getting my head slammed into a concrete wall.. but I didn’t sign my name.. I signed “Under Duress”.. in court, the confession was thrown out.
Bottom Line- there is no place for “safe car fun”... the risk is always high. But hey, at least there won’t be any bail $ needed the next morning