How do you guys stop?

Can't disagree with this. I think that this thread has brought out members who are, to some degree, conflicted about what we do but that doesn't mean that everyone is. One person can see what they do as a hobby, another as a lifestyle, a third as an addiction. And as I'm learning here, it can even be all of those things over the course of a lifetime.
That is a really great point. As human beings equipped with an ever-changing mind and emotions, it is possible to see yourself in every one of those stages in the course of a lifetime, a matter of years or even within the same day.

It all depends on what your conscience allows. In some cultures that I have been in, wives absolutely expect their husbands to go to the local public girl to blow off some steam and that is not even counted as cheating. But to have a girlfriend on top of a wife is frowned upon because of the split in devotion and dedication. In some cultures, if you are committed to staying together and maintain that social order, you performed admirably. And especially in the circumstances when the wife is no longer so interested in servicing her husband or if she is so involved with the lives of children and those around her. It really depends on the man's sexual psyche and the sexual demands of his body, emotions, desire and his age.

Prostitution is allowed in society because it confines a man's sexual madness to a safe place for release and limits rape and child-molestation and other social deviations.

We as men change. And awareness of where we are at this particular time in our life is an act of constant awareness.

(addiction is being caught in a habitual state of mind and emotion and failing to allow our awareness to intercede and contribute and be a present guide to where we are at this new moment in our evolution. Addiction retreats and attaches to a past pleasure for consolation and comfort, ignoring the possibilities present in this very new fresh moment of our existence.)

if we can see ourselves at a point of satisfaction with maybe less but have those experiences be rich, full and complete, then why hang on to the teenager mentality which is fueled by script drugs. (Viagra, Cialis, Levitra or other hormone enhancers)

But if we were cheated in youth by limited sexual experiences and find our sexual desires unfulfilled but our body mechanism is not as vim as it was in youth and we want to live out our youth again, then these enhancers are a great boon.

The goal is to have enough and be satisfied so that you are balanced and can move on to possibly a wider horizon of joy, awareness and contribution.

We are lucky to be able to have the wherewithal to navigate our lives and sexuality according to our needs presently.

Just be aware and don't get stuck in a habit that no longer really satisfies but is merely nostalgic in nature.

You are equipped to know the differences in your being and to find pathways to greater and greater levels of satisfaction.

Have all you want but don't get stuck.
 
i have a similar issue. I love sex, it feels great. I stopped SA, because i was throwing down 300 per meet. Stupid me, i was doing cash advances on my CC and now am 5K in CC debt. I havent even gone to an AMP for awhile as well or see my usual blonde bombshell. It’s been 2 weeks without fooling around with anyone but my SO. So far, what helped me not want to do anything with anyone except for my SO is to JO. It is hard but it’s been working so far. Plus i have to remind myself to look at my CC statement to kill the CC debt. I have a mortgage and utilities to take care of.

We should continue to support each other.
 
i have a similar issue. I love sex, it feels great. I stopped SA, because i was throwing down 300 per meet. Stupid me, i was doing cash advances on my CC and now am 5K in CC debt. I havent even gone to an AMP for awhile as well or see my usual blonde bombshell. It’s been 2 weeks without fooling around with anyone but my SO. So far, what helped me not want to do anything with anyone except for my SO is to JO. It is hard but it’s been working so far. Plus i have to remind myself to look at my CC statement to kill the CC debt. I have a mortgage and utilities to take care of.

We should continue to support each other.
Has anyone else noticed that the financial assumptions we make to continue with our habit have a way of being violently disproven? For example, you see a provider (or two) and spend more than you planned to. Ok, we're human. Then you go to your dentist, open wide and he pulls out a few thousand bucks in urgent dental work.
 
Has anyone else noticed that the financial assumptions we make to continue with our habit have a way of being violently disproven? For example, you see a provider (or two) and spend more than you planned to. Ok, we're human. Then you go to your dentist, open wide and he pulls out a few thousand bucks in urgent dental work.
Yes, like the 1000 I just had to plunk down for car repair just as I've squandered hundreds on two horrible sessions.
 
Has anyone else noticed that the financial assumptions we make to continue with our habit have a way of being violently disproven? For example, you see a provider (or two) and spend more than you planned to. Ok, we're human. Then you go to your dentist, open wide and he pulls out a few thousand bucks in urgent dental work.
But that root canal and crown or whatever dental work you had will stay in your mouth possibly for the rest of your life and allows you to chomp food and nourish your body and continue to live on this earth. In past generations and poorer countries without expensive dental work, people lose their teeth and eat only soft food, become malnourished and die young. (no, I am not a dentist) The AMP money or pros money is gone with nothing to show for it but a memory. (good or bad)
 
Yes, like the 1000 I just had to plunk down for car repair just as I've squandered hundreds on two horrible sessions.
I drive an old car and she served me well. The money sometimes spent on her for tires, worn parts, keeps her going and is far better than paying $50,000 (less or more) for a new car that needs theft and collision insurance which I don't pay on my old faithful. And that old car drives me to work to make money, picks up the wife and kids and friends and nobody steals her because of her age (she is a real GILF/MILF) and she gets me to my -- how shall we say -- "appointments."

I don't mind putting money into my car. Eventually, I might sell her and I still get some of the repair money back.

But AMP's money is given away for a pleasurable service. It is a rich-man's entertainment. (ask Robert Kraft)
 
I drive an old car and she served me well. The money sometimes spent on her for tires, worn parts, keeps her going and is far better than paying $50,000 (less or more) for a new car that needs theft and collision insurance which I don't pay on my old faithful. And that old car drives me to work to make money, picks up the wife and kids and friends and nobody steals her because of her age (she is a real GILF/MILF) and she gets me to my -- how shall we say -- "appointments."

I don't mind putting money into my car. Eventually, I might sell her and I still get some of the repair money back.

But AMP's money is given away for a pleasurable service. It is a rich-man's entertainment. (ask Robert Kraft)
I drive a mid-nineties, low mileage car. I spent a few grand last year on it but it should be good for several more years. It's in good shape and completely inconspicuous. There's no one I need to impress with it. Cops never stop me. It gets me to Queens and back.
 
I drive a mid-nineties, low mileage car. I spent a few grand last year on it but it should be good for several more years. It's in good shape and completely inconspicuous. There's no one I need to impress with it. Cops never stop me. It gets me to Queens and back.
Believe it or not, I once was in a hurry going to work in Manhattan. I found free street parking in Flushing and walked to the subway. Went to work all day came back to get my car and noticed my key with my bright red key chain in the outside driver's side door keyhole. I forgot to take the key out and the car sat for a good 12 hours with the key in the door, begging to be stolen without even hotwiring it and it wasn't even considered by a teenager to take it for a joyride!!!!!
 
I drive an old car and she served me well. The money sometimes spent on her for tires, worn parts, keeps her going and is far better than paying $50,000 (less or more) for a new car that needs theft and collision insurance which I don't pay on my old faithful. And that old car drives me to work to make money, picks up the wife and kids and friends and nobody steals her because of her age (she is a real GILF/MILF) and she gets me to my -- how shall we say -- "appointments."

I don't mind putting money into my car. Eventually, I might sell her and I still get some of the repair money back.

But AMP's money is given away for a pleasurable service. It is a rich-man's entertainment. (ask Robert Kraft)
I drive a mid-nineties, low mileage car. I spent a few grand last year on it but it should be good for several more years. It's in good shape and completely inconspicuous. There's no one I need to impress with it. Cops never stop me. It gets me to Queens and back.
Not a thing wrong with having an old car I had such a reliable car went over 300k miles. Never spent any money except basic repairs on it. However I have a kind of expensive foreign I got a good enough deal on it $26k before taxes. 15 k miles. I bought it cause it looks fly and I deserve to look good in how I travel and how I dress as well.
 
Believe it or not, I once was in a hurry going to work in Manhattan. I found free street parking in Flushing and walked to the subway. Went to work all day came back to get my car and noticed my key with my bright red key chain in the outside driver's side door keyhole. I forgot to take the key out and the car sat for a good 12 hours with the key in the door, begging to be stolen without even hotwiring it and it wasn't even considered by a teenager to take it for a joyride!!!!!
My specialty is forgetting my phone or wallet on the passenger seat.
 
The pros that text you though. I got 3 or 4 pros that text me and I haven't seen em in 4 mos. Idk how to feel about it. I get being upset when you have a SO and get that text.
No significant other here but those texts can be insidious. Anyone else getting Mother's Day reminders?

If I ever get back into a normal relationship, I'll need to pick up a burner for it.
 
My specialty is forgetting my phone or wallet on the passenger seat.
Once couldn't find my wallet after paying a visit to a Flushing AMP and it was loaded with Christmas money to buy gifts. (and you break out in a cold sweat and your life passes before your eyes. not only money, but driver's license, credit cards, ID's...) Retraced my steps back to the AMP and those sweet girls preserved it on a high shelf for me.

I counted the contents to find out just how much I had to SUFFER for that blunder. It was all there, all those smiling Benjamins!!!!!!

I took out money to tip them for recovery and no theft. They were young and sweet and refused. (unforgettable nice young ladies with integrity from good parents) They said to just keep on coming to see them.

And I did. I came back after Christmas shopping that day, bearing gifts like Santa Clause with food, Chinese delicacies, fruits and clothing. "MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR."
 
Once couldn't find my wallet after paying a visit to a Flushing AMP and it was loaded with Christmas money to buy gifts. (and you break out in a cold sweat and your life passes before your eyes. not only money, but driver's license, credit cards, ID's...) Retraced my steps back to the AMP and those sweet girls preserved it on a high shelf for me.

I counted the contents to find out just how much I had to SUFFER for that blunder. It was all there, all those smiling Benjamins!!!!!!

I took out money to tip them for recovery and no theft. They were young and sweet and refused. (unforgettable nice young ladies with integrity from good parents) They said to just keep on coming to see them.

And I did. I came back after Christmas shopping that day, bearing gifts like Santa Clause with food, Chinese delicacies, fruits and clothing. "MERRY CHRISTMAS & A HAPPY NEW YEAR."
They deserved it. Good stuff.
 
Once couldn't find my wallet after paying a visit to a Flushing AMP and it was loaded with Christmas money to buy gifts. (and you break out in a cold sweat and your life passes before your eyes. not only money, but driver's license, credit cards, ID's...)
Left/lost/dropped my hearing aids once at my regular place. Had to go back the next day. Was so glad they hadn't been vacuumed. People who don't use them have no inkling of how much they can cost.
 
I try and follow Tennessee Ernie Williams who said...."I spent most of my money on booze and loose women...and the rest? I squandered away".....My older brother was just diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma...you're only here once and for a very short time...I'm in my 60's now, divorced and done with dating women my age...I see my friends spending money like crazy on the women they are dating, or living with or whatever..I spend a fraction of what they spend on my once a week treat with a 32yr old spinner I found off of SA..my days are numbered doing this so I figure might as well enjoy myself. I can't see myself chasing 20 or 30 something year old ladies in my 70's..lol..but I remember one provider I saw when I first started this adventure who said she once saw an 84yr old man...I don't think that male urge to procreate ever goes away until we take our last breath...Be safe and stay well
 
I try and follow Tennessee Ernie Williams who said...."I spent most of my money on booze and loose women...and the rest? I squandered away".....My older brother was just diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma...you're only here once and for a very short time...I'm in my 60's now, divorced and done with dating women my age...I see my friends spending money like crazy on the women they are dating, or living with or whatever..I spend a fraction of what they spend on my once a week treat with a 32yr old spinner I found off of SA..my days are numbered doing this so I figure might as well enjoy myself. I can't see myself chasing 20 or 30 something year old ladies in my 70's..lol..but I remember one provider I saw when I first started this adventure who said she once saw an 84yr old man...I don't think that male urge to procreate ever goes away until we take our last breath...Be safe and stay well
Yes, what we do can be a functioning arrangement. I'm also hesitant to pursue women my age, on the one hand, because they're my age. And on the other hand, because I imagine them to be as angst-ridden and generally messed up as I am. I have three friends with wives who are ten years older than them. I have to say that they look like good company on a human level. But throw in a toxic #metoo environment and our settling for weekly sex with AMP girls is understandable. Putting aside women for the moment, have other guys found it harder to make and maintain male friendships after a certain age? I found myself with a legit circle that was entirely young women happy to be taken out to nice restaurants, along with older disabled friends for whom I practically have to change their nappies. I really value the opportunity to shoot breeze with similarly situated guys.
 
I try and follow Tennessee Ernie Williams who said...."I spent most of my money on booze and loose women...and the rest? I squandered away".....My older brother was just diagnosed with Multiple Myeloma...you're only here once and for a very short time...I'm in my 60's now, divorced and done with dating women my age...I see my friends spending money like crazy on the women they are dating, or living with or whatever..I spend a fraction of what they spend on my once a week treat with a 32yr old spinner I found off of SA..my days are numbered doing this so I figure might as well enjoy myself. I can't see myself chasing 20 or 30 something year old ladies in my 70's..lol..but I remember one provider I saw when I first started this adventure who said she once saw an 84yr old man...I don't think that male urge to procreate ever goes away until we take our last breath...Be safe and stay well
I was with a woman recently who probably is only 6 to 10 years younger than me, which is still old. She is well maintained and the sex is "sublime." She is older and the movements are slow and very, very deliberate, savoring each and every miniscule movement, followed by wonderment and so many oooooohs and aahhhhhs and her body is soft and pliable and entirely fuckable and above all, she so appreciates being fucked. And she will do absolutely anything to please her lover.

No doubt that a younger girl looks a whole lot better, but like a brand new car, there is a stiffness and a lack of experience and the uncertainty of if she really would rather have her own age.

When I see hot/young with an older fellow, I just think, good for him and I wish him the best and he must have something, plenty of money and freedom and hopefully he is a great lover.

But, as far as natural attraction, she probably longs for the energy of a youthful male to match her's. I mean, you are only young once.

But that only really applies to a gal in her 20's, dating a guy about 20 - 25 years older. But once the lady hits towards 40, the 20 year difference seems to vanish. You both are now mature and -- I never want the feeling of depriving a gal of her youth and being with her and seeing her looking at a guy her own age and she is smiling. We guys like dedication from our women.

However, without even fucking, the pure energy present in a young girl is a marvel of nature. I was in a foreign country getting a legit massage from a 25 year old Vietnamese beauty. She was giving Thai style massage and she does not walk on your body but uses her full body constantly which engages with your full body and I was just blown away by the feelings of power and beauty emanating from this Asian flower. It was a totally different experience from the act of copulation where your energy mixes with her's. This was an act of being still and just experiencing the awesomeness of "the female" with all her power to procreate still intact, unexpressed, dormant vital energy.

No wonder why it is so difficult to give it up. She has a "magnificence" and unless you can find something of greater value, interest or importance to replace that "feminine wonder of God's creation," you might always return to the pleasures that she offers.
 
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