Viagra, Cialis???

I've been noticing all the ads for Viagra and Cialis that pop up in my Social media these days feature younger men.
I'm talking late twenties, early thirties. And I mean all the ads. It's no longer grandpa trying to get a boner. It's presented as younger guys failing in bed.

When I was that age the only way I could fail is with whiskey dick and even then I had to be totally obliterated.

I know from time to time some of the younger guys here on UG have mentioned trying it just for the sake of trying it, not because they needed it.

What do you guys make of this?
Do you think the manufacturers are just trying to expand the market and play on guys fears?

Or are guys becoming impotent at a younger age?
I think that men are physiologically weak in modern society due to genetically modified foods and the use of estrogenic materials in every phase of modern life.

Modern day chemicalized and GMO foods that once grew prolifically in real soil fertilized by manure from fertile seeds are now no longer able to reproduce themselves, and on top of that everything is irradiated to preserve shelf life.

Meats and fish are no longer wild from animals that ate real food and drank clean water, and wild greens. Our food source today offers mass, but is impotent, without vitality.

We as boys grew up in the fields and streets, manual labor, playing ball, grunting, lifting, physically active from sun up to sun down. We walked in the rain and snow with insufficient clothing and protection, so we strengthened our will and expanded our limits.

And, our fathers were even far stronger than us. They built muscle and competed, fought wars, without steroids.

These days the youths’ bodies have become limp vestigial organs, unable to get an erection without heavy meds. Men have become more cerebral, effeminate.

It is a sad consequence of modernization, chemicalization, and industrialization.

The stark differences between men and women are blurred. The testosterone-based man of yesteryear, was the bread-winner, the sole source of income for the family. He had to be an alpha male.

Nowadays, there is little difference between men and women, androgynous.

In other countries that are more traditional, the boys are still as strong as mountain goats, less cerebral, more balanced between body, mind, emotions and sexuality.

The massive use of prescription and non prescription drugs in the USA is unrivaled.

When impotence crops up, instead of rectifying the disease by food and lifestyle, the impotence drugs are prescribed. Once prescribed, you are doomed to be addicted for the rest of your life. Your body forgets how to synthesize and manufacture hormones and sexuality.

I know women in their 20’s who cry because their incredibly handsome, intelligent, and wealthy boyfriends are too exhausted in body and mind to desire her. His sex life was over by 16 years old.

Yeah, @billyS, for my friends and I, our problem was never the task of getting and maintaining an erection. The problem was the nuisance of having a dick that was erecting all day and all night, blocking our ability to think half straight.

Even my dear old grandpa in his 70’s who used to have a garden, and after working all day under the hot sun, would have my dad drop him off at the local whorehouse, while my dad and I waited for him in the car. And, it was no quickie. He was always in there for a while. When I became impatient waiting, my dad always told me that gramps is seeing his doctor.
 
@mugi
There is much truth to what you posted however, your data was qualitative and I'm a quantitative guy.
so here are some data:
In 1960's average male weight was 168 lbs.
Today average American man 20 years old and up weighs 197.9 pounds . The average waist circumference is 40.2 inches

Although I don't have data to prove it (but just look around at the mall or big box stores during warm weather when guys are walking around in tee shirts) I strongly suspect that the extra weight is from unhealthy body fat.

An increase in body weight can lead to an increase in sex-hormone-binding globulin, which causes the sex hormone testosterone to fall. Due to a drop in the sex hormone, sexual desires and libido may decrease drastically, which can in turn impact sex drive.
 
I hope my son drives me to Flushing when I get older! I will tell him to leave his kids at home though! I think my daughter would be more willing to take me though.
“I will tell him to leave his kids at home though!”

You can take the kids along, buy them some Sweet Chinese Bubble Tea, and do as my father told me, “Gramps is seeing his doctor.”

I didn’t catch on until I drove past his “doctor’s office” with my mother, and I said “ma, daddy drives grandpa to his doctor, upstairs from that bar.” My mother was shocked, and my father caught hell.

Hey, I was only a kid. My father told me to learn how to keep my mouth shut next time.

I wish my father and grandfather were just straight with me and just told me that grandpa was having his Johnson serviced, and I wouldn’t have inadvertently spilled the beans.
 
I think that men are physiologically weak in modern society due to genetically modified foods and the use of estrogenic materials in every phase of modern life.

Modern day chemicalized and GMO foods that once grew prolifically in real soil fertilized by manure from fertile seeds are now no longer able to reproduce themselves, and on top of that everything is irradiated to preserve shelf life.

Meats and fish are no longer wild from animals that ate real food and drank clean water, and wild greens. Our food source today offers mass, but is impotent, without vitality.

We as boys grew up in the fields and streets, manual labor, playing ball, grunting, lifting, physically active from sun up to sun down. We walked in the rain and snow with insufficient clothing and protection, so we strengthened our will and expanded our limits.

And, our fathers were even far stronger than us. They built muscle and competed, fought wars, without steroids.

These days the youths’ bodies have become limp vestigial organs, unable to get an erection without heavy meds. Men have become more cerebral, effeminate.

It is a sad consequence of modernization, chemicalization, and industrialization.

The stark differences between men and women are blurred. The testosterone-based man of yesteryear, was the bread-winner, the sole source of income for the family. He had to be an alpha male.

Nowadays, there is little difference between men and women, androgynous.

In other countries that are more traditional, the boys are still as strong as mountain goats, less cerebral, more balanced between body, mind, emotions and sexuality.

The massive use of prescription and non prescription drugs in the USA is unrivaled.

When impotence crops up, instead of rectifying the disease by food and lifestyle, the impotence drugs are prescribed. Once prescribed, you are doomed to be addicted for the rest of your life. Your body forgets how to synthesize and manufacture hormones and sexuality.

I know women in their 20’s who cry because their incredibly handsome, intelligent, and wealthy boyfriends are too exhausted in body and mind to desire her. His sex life was over by 16 years old.

Yeah, @billyS, for my friends and I, our problem was never the task of getting and maintaining an erection. The problem was the nuisance of having a dick that was erecting all day and all night, blocking our ability to think half straight.

Even my dear old grandpa in his 70’s who used to have a garden, and after working all day under the hot sun, would have my dad drop him off at the local whorehouse, while my dad and I waited for him in the car. And, it was no quickie. He was always in there for a while. When I became impatient waiting, my dad always told me that gramps is seeing his doctor.
Too much Tofu if you ask me.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
Anyone try Joymode? I see it all the time being advertised in my SM timelines.
I Googled it and it seemed to get good reviews on neutral sites.
 
joymode is herbal bs i just looked it up. try it if you want, ashwagandha is one of the ingredients supposed to help with sleep i tried it didnt do shit for me, tried zinc didnt do much for me, all these ingredients can be bought on amazon or walmart prob for cheaper but ill say this.

only things that will really work are cialis and testosterone shots, and other hormonal stuff related to testosterone. everything is bs herbal crap that will be a waste of money.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
Anyone ever notice C losing it's potency if it sits around too long?

I used to get C and V from a friend but when that connection dried up I had the oncologist who treated me for prostate cancer write me a legit script since he has been offering anyway for years. I filled it right away but still had about 60 pills plus some V left over from my connect. I would refill whenever I finished a bottle of 30, so I was never getting to the fresh ones until a few months later as I had built up a reserve.

Finally after about two years the reserve ran out and I needed to use the new refill immediately.

The whole point of this ramble is that it seemed so much more potent.

So could the ones that sat around for a few months lost some potency and I can expect last nights results to be the norm?
 
The older ones worked but they seemed inconsistent.
What may have been inconsistent is not the drug but what you ate prior to taking the drug.

See below.

think cialis is just like that, sometimes it works better than other times sometimes i dont even feel a difference cant really figure out why.
what you eat prior to taking V can greatly affect absorption especially fatty food.
I always take mine on an empty stomach (except for black coffee and water).

To save money on regularly replacing its drug stockpile, in 1985 the US Air Force asked the FDA to test some products. Since then, the FDA has found that 90% of over 100 prescription and over-the-counter drugs tested could be used safely past their expiration date.and were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

If you ever got pills in their original container (not the little bottle the pharmacist uses and puts a 1 year expiration date on the label) you will see (as I did) that the expiration date specified by the manufacturer is typically in excess of 5 years.

So we are talking about 15+ 5 or 20 years.

Note that this is not true for lotions and liquid drugs and especially drugs mixed from a powder and any drug that has to be refrigerated (some antibiotics.) — the mixture can expire in a few days and in some cases a few hours.

The dates tended to be very conservative. Products were tested by either the manufacturer or the FDA, but always with agency supervision.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
What may have been inconsistent is not the drug but what you ate prior to taking the drug.

See below.

what you eat prior to taking V can greatly affect absorption especially fatty food.
I always take mine on an empty stomach (except for black coffee and water).

To save money on regularly replacing its drug stockpile, in 1985 the US Air Force asked the FDA to test some products. Since then, the FDA has found that 90% of over 100 prescription and over-the-counter drugs tested could be used safely past their expiration date.and were perfectly good to use even 15 years after the expiration date.

If you ever got pills in their original container (not the little bottle the pharmacist uses and puts a 1 year expiration date on the label) you will see (as I did) that the expiration date specified by the manufacturer is typically in excess of 5 years.

So we are talking about 15+ 5 or 20 years.

Note that this is not true for lotions and liquid drugs and especially drugs mixed fro a powder.

The dates tended to be very conservative. Products were tested by either the manufacturer or the FDA, but always with agency supervision.
I get what you're saying but "being safe" is not the same thing as a pill retaining it's full potency.
My eating habits on days I use C are very consistent, to the point where I could rule them out as a factor.
There were a few slight variables but I will eliminate them next time just to make the comparison more exact.
 
no im using cialis from my oldest pack from like over 18 months ago and it still works fine. finally got dapoxetine pills too cant wait to see how those work.
Do share how the dapoxetine works. I'd love to try something like that, typically if I'm with someone new i generally don't last very long, and as I get older a second shot is becoming rarer and rarer.
 
think cialis is just like that, sometimes it works better than other times sometimes i dont even feel a difference cant really figure out why.
I haven't reached the age just yet - though fast approaching it... so I don't have experience with it.

But I know a few guys on this, mostly my age with either weight issues and/or diabetes and needing a little help....and between them talking it seems to be an inconsistent drug, sometimes it works other times not so mcuh and no rhyme or reason for it.

officially according to the pamphlets info as for the shelf-life expirations....
Cialis usually expires about two years after its time of manufacturing. This is similar to the expiry times of other widely-used ED medications according to Google.

Pharmacokinetics, half-life, is how long the medication stay s in the blood. Sildenafil (Viagra) has a half-life of 4 hours and vardenafil (Levitra) has a half-life of 4-6 hours while tadalafil (Cialis) has a half-life of 17.5 hours. But I wonder if based upon this discussion thread and my friends on the "helper" meds if 17.5 hour half-life isn't shorter at times for other body chemistry changes.
 
I get what you're saying but "being safe" is not the same thing as a pill retaining it's full potency.
My eating habits on days I use C are very consistent, to the point where I could rule them out as a factor.
There were a few slight variables but I will eliminate them next time just to make the comparison more exact.
From the NIH: "about 90% were safe and effective as long as 15 years past their original expiration date "

I can only assume that "effective" means potent (I think that is a reasonable assumption)

I also assume that you store the drugs in a reasonably controlled environment, e.g. not in the back of your car in the hot summer months and in the subfreezing winter months and not in your bathroom where you take steamy showers. Whether or not temp and humidity extremes degrade effectiveness — I can only guess that such would. I keep mine "hidden in plain sight" in other containers labeled for other drugs I take (that are not appropriate for females) in a reasonably controlled area and store small quantities in my gym bag.

Just wondering: do you take Finasteride? If so read the side effects.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
Just wondering: do you take Finasteride? If so read the side effects.
Tadalafil, fits my life style better.
If I was doing half hour or one hour sessions then I might have chosen Finasteride, since my doc gave me the choice.
Tadalfil stays in the system longer so it's better for weekend trips.

I don't remember if it was this thread or somewhere else but a few years ago I started experimenting with both and was reporting my findings.

Overall I find, for me anyway, Tadalfil does not give me any side effects at all and I can take it well before a session.
The only advantage to Finasteride is that it makes me " you're hurting me" hard and actually size wise both notably bigger and thicker, closer to what I was 15 years ago.
I was getting the stuffy and sometimes running nose a few hours after. On your advice I did keep some Afrin handy.

As far as storage I was keeping my reserve in a inside pocket of a suit hanging in my bedroom closet. The active bottle is sitting on a shelf in the bedroom.

No gym bag in car (although that's where I keep my Magnums and flavored condoms) nor in the bathroom medicine chest.

Tadalafil, fits my life style better.
If I was doing half hour or one hour sessions then I might have chosen Finasteride, since my doc gave me the choice.
Tadalfil stays in the system longer so it's better for weekend trips.

I don't remember if it was this thread or somewhere else but a few years ago I started experimenting with both and was reporting my findings.

Overall I find, for me anyway, Tadalfil does not give me any side effects at all and I can take it well before a session.
The only advantage to Finasteride is that it makes me " you're hurting me" hard and actually size wise both notably bigger and thicker, closer to what I was 15 years ago.
I was getting the stuffy and sometimes running nose a few hours after. On your advice I did keep some Afrin handy.

As far as storage I was keeping my reserve in a inside pocket of a suit hanging in my bedroom closet. The active bottle is sitting on a shelf in the bedroom.

No gym bag in car (although that's where I keep my Magnums and flavored condoms) nor in the bathroom medicine chest.
I take that back, I tried Sildenafil not Finastride

Apply everything I said about F to S
 
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