Vacation spots to take providers

#1
Providers, Sugar Babes, etc.

How do you work out the finances? I know a lot of "upscale" providers do this as part of their service, but I was interested more in those that don't usually do this. Providers/SBs you know already.

Vegas is the first thing that springs to mind.
 
#3
So you cut her the check before the trip, after, of half down payment? You ask up front for "unlimited cups? I presume.
 
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Wwanderer

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#4
So you cut her the check before the trip, after, of half down payment? You ask up front for "unlimited cups? I presume.
I'm not sure if your question is addressed to me or lgs, but my answer is that none of those things are particularly relevant and probably would not come up. I would not want to make such a big investment of time and energy, to say nothing of money, nor even to spend that much time with a p4p partner unless we already had a well established and very comfortable relationship in which I trusted her to treat me fairly and well. I'd also want her to feel equally comfortable/confident that I would not try to take advantage of her. In other words, the funds would be transferred whenever and however convenient, and there would be no explicit agreement about (probably not even any discussion of) exactly how we would spend our time together, in bed or out. In short, lgs is asking about something that really only makes sense to me in the context of something like a "sugar relationship", not a conventional escort-provider one.

Other guys see it differently, I know.

-Ww
 

Wwanderer

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#8
On the surface, I agree. But if you get friendly enough with an escort type, she might consider it as a free vacation.
I'm not sure that I understand your meaning. Are you saying that she might think it OK to accept money but provide no sex or companionship in return? If so, it is a possibility in principle of course, but it would be a really remote one with any p4p partner I'd consider taking on such a vacation. Actually, I think that it would be quite remote with *any* reasonably reputable and self-respecting escort and that being friends with her would make it even less likely.

Anyway, I have never run into such problems, not even close, in the several (but not very numerous) occasions that I've "vacationed" with a p4p partner.

-Ww
 

Gavvy Cravath

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#9
take a provider on a vacation? Why wouldn't you go on vacation and get a different provider? Isn't that the purpose? Why pay for someone to go with you that doesn't want to be there in the first place? I don't get this concept.
 
#10
I know one guy that took a provider on vacation, had plenty of sex and all he did was pay for her trip. She was just happy going on a nice vacation.

I was wondering if you guys had similar experiences.
 

Wwanderer

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#11
take a provider on a vacation? Why wouldn't you go on vacation and get a different provider? Isn't that the purpose? Why pay for someone to go with you that doesn't want to be there in the first place? I don't get this concept.
To me it makes sense mostly, maybe only, in the context either of a "sugar relationship" (are you familiar with that concept? do you get it?) or of being a long-term regular of some ATF/CTF (CTF = "current time favorite") escort. Basically we are talking about a p4p gfe that includes non-sexual as well as sexual experiences/recreations. Does that help at all?

Lots of upscale (or "high end"...a phrase which always makes me think of a woman down on all fours with her ass positioned for easy access/entry) escorts advertise and provide such services, fwiiw.

-Ww
 
#13
Yes, I have done vacation travel with providers both with and without the payment of a fee. They are somewhat different deals, imo and experience, but fairly similar.

-Ww
How are they different?

I've must have asked fifty strippers over the years to go away with me, and a bunch have actually agreed. But it never happened for one reason or another. I'd say it was 50/50 that either she or I flaked-out.
 

Wwanderer

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#14
How are they different?

I've must have asked fifty strippers over the years to go away with me, and a bunch have actually agreed. But it never happened for one reason or another. I'd say it was 50/50 that either she or I flaked-out.
It's subtle and may well be mostly "in my head"...not sure I can express it clearly. But basically it is that when there is a fee involved, I feel a bit more inclined and freer to "call the shots" on how we spend our time, what we do etc, on the trip. For example, with a fee involved, I'd be little more likely to say "Let's go to a steak place for dinner tonight" and a little less likely to say "What do you feel like having for dinner tonight?" But it is not a "black and white" or extreme difference, just a small shift in interaction style and attitudes.

Does that make sense?

-Ww
 

Wwanderer

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#15
This thread has drifted a bit off the point of lgs's IP I think...mostly my fault probably.

Re possible places, how about a cruise? Anyone ever taken a p4p partner on a cruise? I haven't done it but did once read an account some guy posted (with a few photos!) of taking two escorts with him on a few night Caribbean cruise. Sounded like a blast and a half.

-Ww
 

Wwanderer

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#16
I've must have asked fifty strippers over the years to go away with me, and a bunch have actually agreed. But it never happened for one reason or another. I'd say it was 50/50 that either she or I flaked-out.
Wow, sounds like a pretty low batting average, lgs!

To what extent were these trips that never happened ever real (a serious intention) and/or do you think in hers? Were one or both of you just doing a bit of ordinary SC conning the other in order to get more from the other in the club? Were the trips ever planned with any significant specifics - destinations, schedules, financial arrangements and such - or were they simply vague agreements to "go somewhere together one of these days" sort of things?

Also, where these dancers with whom you had already spent significant time OTC?

-Ww
 

Gavvy Cravath

Moderator Emeritus
#17
To me it makes sense mostly, maybe only, in the context either of a "sugar relationship" (are you familiar with that concept? do you get it?) or of being a long-term regular of some ATF/CTF (CTF = "current time favorite") escort. Basically we are talking about a p4p gfe that includes non-sexual as well as sexual experiences/recreations. Does that help at all?

Lots of upscale (or "high end"...a phrase which always makes me think of a woman down on all fours with her ass positioned for easy access/entry) escorts advertise and provide such services, fwiiw.

-Ww
Were you intending on being condescending, Ww?
 

Wwanderer

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#18
Were you intending on being condescending, Ww?
Nope, not at all, and I apologize if it seemed that way. You said that you didn't "get the concept", and I was only trying to state it as clearly and explicitly as I could...and to see if that helped at all.

(It is, of course, notoriously easy to misunderstand "tone" online.)

-Ww
 

Wwanderer

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#20
Why wouldn't you go on vacation and get a different provider?
Here's an attempt at a better (and less uncivil sounding) answer to the part of your question above: I only take a provider on vacation with me if she is someone with whom I have an established relationship and whose company I *know* that I enjoy A LOT in and out of bed. By contrast, if I wait until I am at my destination to look for a p4p partner, there is a considerable risk that I will end up with someone, or a series of someones, with whom I have a mediocre or worse, possibly much worse, time...thus spoiling my vacation or part of it.

Maybe I am hard to please, but the chance I will really hit it off any particular provider the first time I see her is surely no more than 50-50...even with the guidance of online reviews and so forth. So, if I wait until I get there to find someone, it is a fairly big risk.

-Ww
 
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