Relationships in the business

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ValerieXXX

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Hi, I am back! Ok here is the post I promised, please read into this thoroughly.
Have you ever dated a provider, maybe a few times. Felt a closeness to her in ways that do not reflect your feelings towards women in the business. Find that you really care for this woman and felt that you wanted to "save" her from this industry?
Same question applies to our lady friends only have you ever wanted your special client to save you?
Now let's not get into the "prostitute, john," blah, blah, blah crap. Just want to see if there are some in this bunch who might look into the complexities of a real issue without brushing off the possibility that we might care for another human being. Now as I said in previous posts, honesty!!!!!!!!!!



Hey, where is my silver?...lol
 
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Phantom

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VaL,

First of all welcome back!

You asking ME THIS question? Do YOU really want me to answer this?

She KNEW that what she did for a living did not bother me in the least. It would not have bothered me if she continued to work while I dated her outside the business. Yes, I would have ASKED her to stop, but I would have supported any decision she made. She had dreams that were totally obtainable if she continued to work. If she stopped, *I* would foreve be blamed for her not reaching those dreams.
 
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Ozzy

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ahhhh,

i'm gonna stay out of this one.


go see the "session managment" thread here on UG.


phantom, you should steer clear of this one too.
 
Allen

Allen

Webmaster?
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Ozzy,

BTW, I've got a place just like where we were that night down here. Only difference, hot latinas:) When ya coming son?
 
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Ozzy

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in a few weeks!!! :D


i just relized my passport expired......

Dominican Republic......

it's just what i need to get away from the mess i'm in now..........

five hookers for the price of one.




now who wants to rent my cell phone while i'm away?

there is quite an impressive list of names in there.

[Edited by Ozzy on 02-13-2001 at 06:30 AM]
 
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ValerieXXX

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My dearest Ozzy, seems to me as though you should step back from her. Excuses always mean a let down. trust me, I had a person who I fell for out side of the biz and I realized after my heart was deeply in it, I was just considered a rag or a lay by him for 5 years. I should have seen the signs, and I considered disolving my marraige for him.
Ok folks, what I am asking to rephrase is if you had deeply fallen for a lady, and wanted to save her from this. Especially since we are considered whore and the negative like, you wanted to shield the lady from all demeaning negativity that locker room talk brings on, and try to make her truly yours, you had seen the true person before the provider and you fell for her. Kind of like being her knight in shining armor
Ladies have you ever wanted to be saved.
 
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Ozzy

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thanks val.

btw, not that i've tried......well ok just this once, i offered to hook a certain girl ( who i knew rather well)up with a job in the field she was looking for......... she turned down the offer without even thinking it over. and it started at $900/week, though not up to what she was making as an escort it was a good start and had a future.

i've found that none or almost none want to be saved or it would happen more often.

[Edited by Ozzy on 02-13-2001 at 09:28 PM]
 
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One Eyed Trouser Trout

#1 Cowboys Fan
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Originally posted by ValerieXXX
Kind of like being her knight in shining armor
Ladies have you ever wanted to be saved.
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It's been my difficult lesson that my Shining Armor thing had more to do about me being rescued than rescuing.

The 'romance' of lifting a loved one up, hoping they'll be grateful and loyal for life is a road fraught with difficulty.

Just when you think you've found the right Damsel in Distress, you'll likely find a person who doesn't want rescued. Then, it becomes a dysfunctional dance.

Yeah. I've thought about it, read about it, lived it and am hoping to avoid the heartbreak as I move forward.
 
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guy catelli

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Originally posted by slinkybender
I must confess that the closest I've come to a knight in shining armor is to help girls get into the business.
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it is clear that SB is the most loving one of all. he has put their needs ahead of his own male ego. this is what true love is all about.
 
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jmcurry

The Insider
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Saving a provider involves a predisposition to believe that the individual is in the business for "bad" reasons and needs salvation. Although that argument always surfaces in these discussions, my conversations with women in the hobby, over the years, belies that stereotype. Many women are not looking to be saved and actually enjoy their work. I always, optimistically, and perhaps equally naively, enter these relationships with the perception that the individual I am about to have sex with actually enjoys what she does. Accordingly, I never fantasize about extracting her from her profession in order to redeem her.

On the other hand, I have, on one occasion, fallen for a someone so completely that I offered my "assistance" to help her find other work. I now understand that my inclinations were misguided, and I am suffering the consequences. We have not seen each other in quite some time, and I have lost immeasurably. By no means was this due solely to my offer of job assistance. But that single incident characterized my affection, and my inability to bifurcate our professional relationship from our developing personal one. Now I have nothing, at least as far as she is concerned.

Based on this recent experience, I would suggest that we pursue the hobby rigorously, but keep in mind that it is always money for sex, and nothing more. Sorry to be so nihilistic, but it has been a tough week, and it is only Wednesday.
 
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jmcurry

The Insider
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Thanks JC. I hope I was helpful. But I still attempt to discern what I did, in that relationship, that was so egregiously wrong. I would appreciate feedback from anyone, at least anyone who is serious.
 
Slinky Bender

Slinky Bender

The All Powerful Moderator
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Note: we've decided to go back to the "original" format for email on UG, so that when you send an email through the site,you "home" email will show up on it. The 'fix" was causing more problems than the problem. For those who wish to be more anonymous, get a separate email account to link to your UG account from yahoo/hotmail/someother free service. Sorry, but it seem sthat this is what the majority ( as well as Allen and I ) want.

We now return to our regularly scheduled programming....
 
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jmcurry

The Insider
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I did receive it. Responding to this takes much more reflection than I thought initially. Please bear with me. I will get back privately, but sorting out my thoughts while I am still going through my probelmatic relationship represents a difficult task. Moreover, I had to relocate today to Tampa for the next six weeks, to be involved in spring training. I will get back to you soon, privately. Again, exuse my delay. I will be back and forth between NYC and Tampa over the next month and a half, and I will contact you privately during that time.
 
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