LCD v. Plasma

#81
Message of thanks to Ozzy!

Bought the Panasonic TH-42PH9UK 42' Plasma. Awesome picture quality! My only regret is missing the $1,029 sale at Willoghby's last week and paying $1,129 at B&H.

Ozzy, thanks for the education & recommendation.

-xbanker
 
#83
One place you won't see HD is in the porn industry. They have been having problems with the imperfections on the girls withHD that make-up can't cover up.


Yes it's true... those girls really aren't that hot in person or in Hi-Def
There was an article in the New York Times recently about porn actress Jesse Jane's intentions to have her breast enhancement surgery re-done in an effort to enhance (mask the scars) their appearance for high-def movies.

There may be times when you pop a HD-DVD or Blu-ray porno into the player, you'll wonder if you're watching a porno movie or halloween flick.
 
#84
hey, Ozzy, everyone else is hitting you up for free info, so mind if i run something by you? I have a moderate budget, and a relativly small portion of the living room where i watch tv (probably a 12X20 space) with very little natural light coming in. I was thinking about upgrading my tv/home theater in the next month or so. I've done a bit of research and have almost decided on the Samsung LN-3251D TV and the Samsung HT-TQ85 HTIB system. I'm just an average guy looking for a goo dpicture, doesn't have to be state of the art, but i want it to be awesome compared to my current CRT phillips TV.

anyway, what do you think about those systems, and is there any value in keeping my electronics consistant as far as manufacturers go (i.e. using all samsung, instead of a panasonic TV and a Magnavox home theater system)?

i understand if i am asking too much, buy any info you could give would be helpful.
Thanks!!!
 
#85
I didn't forget you.... just been a little busy. I'll go in the office mon morning and search for something that suits your needs and budget.
 

billyS

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#87
Ozzy,
I've been seeing the ads for FIOS from Verizion that implies if you have HD your wasting it by having cable and that there fiber optic system gives a better picture. Any truth to this? How much does the service impact the picture quality?
 
#89
Ozzy,
I've been seeing the ads for FIOS from Verizion that implies if you have HD your wasting it by having cable and that there fiber optic system gives a better picture. Any truth to this? How much does the service impact the picture quality?

There is no doubt that a fiber system will deliver a better picture but then again how much better is it over HD cable ...... I belive the ad is comparing there network to regular cable but you will have to check into it to find out or read the fine print to make sure.
 
#90
Samsung DLP

Just before Christmas I went through the "I wanna new HDTV now syndrome". After 4 days of frenzied looking, I found an open box Samsung 41: DLP at Ledgewood, NJ Circuit City, it was $569+tax+$50 delivery, but they gave me a $50 Gift Card. Love it, may go for a larger one next year.
 
#91
Just I predicted earlier in this thread, LCD large screen TV’s are replacing large screen Plasma TV’s. I just visited the J&R web site. J&R lists only 15 Plasma TV’s with only 4 of these being smaller then 50 inches. J&R lists 92 LCD TV’s. While it’s true that many of these are smaller screen TV’s (less then 40 inches), it’s still clear that LCD is quickly replacing Plasma TV’s. Many of the 40 and plus inch LCD screens are marked down in price making them completive in price with similar price Plasma TV’s.

Sharp, the largest maker of LCD screens announced some months ago that it was building a new factory capable of producing LCD screens as large as 100 inches, when this factory goes into full production 50 and plus Plasma screen TV’s will be gone as well. As I said back then even though Plasma may offer a better screen image then LCD screens (I won’t argue that fact), The public will buy the cheaper, more common LCD TV’s.
 
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#92
Just before Christmas I went through the "I wanna new HDTV now syndrome". After 4 days of frenzied looking, I found an open box Samsung 41: DLP at Ledgewood, NJ Circuit City, it was $569+tax+$50 delivery, but they gave me a $50 Gift Card. Love it, may go for a larger one next year.
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It seems like DLP's are going into clearance sale mode everywhere. I've seen significant price drops at all the major stores and they aren't even open box specials.
 
#93
Just I predicted earlier in this thread, LCD large screen TV’s are replacing large screen Plasma TV’s. I just visited the J&R web site. J&R lists only 15 Plasma TV’s with only 4 of these being smaller then 50 inches. J&R lists 92 LCD TV’s. While it’s true that many of these are smaller screen TV’s (less then 40 inches) it’s still clear that LCD is quickly replacing Plasma TV’s. Many of the 40 and plus inch LCD screens are marked down in price making them completive in price with similar price Plasma TV’s.

Sharp, the largest maker of LCD screens announced some months ago that it was building a new factory capable of producing LCD screens as large as 100 inches, when this factory goes into full production 50 and plus Plasma screen TV’s will be gone as well. As I said back then even though Plasma may offer a better screen image then LCD screens (I won’t argue that fact), The public will buy the cheaper, more common LCD TV’s.





Many of the 40 and plus inch LCD screens are marked down in price making them completive in price with similar price Plasma TV’s.
Ever wonder why things get "marked down" in price.... Because no one is buying them or new product which is superior is about to be released.

btw.. that "new product is not new LCD's... it's the new plasmas due out in Oct/Nov 07.


I just visited the J&R web site. J&R lists only 15 Plasma TV’s with only 4 of these being smaller then 50 inches. J&R lists 92 LCD TV’s.
While it’s true that many of these are smaller screen TV’s (less then 40 inches)

Basically... You don't know what you're talking about. The only reason LCD's are outselling plasmas in under 40 inch models is because there are virtually no under 40 inch plasmas on the market............. Yet!

When the next generation plazmas hit the market right before xmas and are selling for less than they already are, are made in slightly smaller versions (32"-40") and blow the doors off LCD in terms of all things quality....

What will you say then?
 
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#94
Aside from the fact LCD is a much older technoly than plasma (by 20-30 years) is the reason why there's so much more of it on the market. But we're not talking about today... we're talking about the FUTURE.... right?


btw... in your 92 to 15 ratio of LCD vs Plasma... you wouldn't be counting the fact that most smaller LCD's (under 30 inches) are being sold and purchased for use as PC monitors as well.


No... I guess you didn't even consider that.


Plasma is the future for TWO simple reasons.... it's cheaper to produce and it's better quality.
 
#95
It seems like DLP's are going into clearance sale mode everywhere. I've seen significant price drops at all the major stores and they aren't even open box specials.
They are the best buy if you're not hung up on having the newest or the best. DLP is certainly compatible with the rest of the flat screens, if you're not a big screen aficionado then a step below the top quality won't matter when you're paying a fraction of the price.


Ah.... I said this last year...

DLP's will be around for a while. What they are basically is a bridge between LCD/Plas technology and projection. It's the best bang for the buck right now. LCD's are getting cheaper cause the technology is older, but DLP's will lower in price as well and stick around to kill off the last of the old projections...
 
#96
Ever wonder why things get "marked down" in price.... Because no one is buying them or new product which is superior is about to be released.

btw.. that "new product is not new LCD's... it's the new plasmas due out in Oct/Nov 07.





Basically... You don't know what you're talking about. The only reason LCD's are outselling plasmas in under 40 inch models is because there are virtually no under 40 inch plasmas on the market............. Yet!

When the next generation plazmas hit the market right before xmas and are selling for less than they already are, are made in slightly smaller versions (32"-40") and blow the doors off LCD in terms of all things quality....

What will you say then?
I guess I’ll just have to wait another six months to a year from now, if this thread is still around, take another look at the store’s web site, and get back to you.
 
#97
Consider this, you’re a senior executive at Sony, Panasonic or Toshiba and you can buy a TV screen from a huge factory that can crank out anywhere from 50 to 100 thousand LCD screens a day for any thing from a IPod Nano to a 100 inch TV for say 40% less then less then the cheapest Plasma screen available due to the huge volume of said factory. What would you do, if you valued your job?

Quality has nothing to due with it. Toyota sells more cars in one day worldwide then BMW sells in an entire year.
 
#98
The problem with your Toyota/BMW analogy is that plasmas (BMW's) are cheaper than the LCD's (Toyota's).

So who would pay more for an inferior product?

Plasma right at this minute cost about 70-80% of what it costs to produce an LCD. You're assuming that the cost of producing a plasma isn't going to decrease in the future. I'm telling you the technology is so brand new right now that only a few far east plants exist with more being built every day. The cost of plasmas is going to drop as the LCD's do if not faster. I don't care how many this super plant can crank out in a day.

You ever notice how light sensitive LCD's are in sunlight or bright light? Well that's not nearly the case with plasma. If plasmas could be made small enough for laptops or in 2 inch screens for iPods and for comparable costs.... LCD's wouldn't even be on the market right now.
 
#99
My whole point is that once Sharp goes into production with it’s new mega LCD factory that can produce LCD screens up to 100 inches, Sharp will be able to produce virtually all the all the screens for every type of electronic device that needs a color screen and that’s everything from the smallest IPod Nano. Cell phones, digital cameras, hand held video games, multi-media players, portable DVD players, computer monitors, small screen TV’s (did I miss something?). These are all devices that can’t use Plasma screens. They will also be able to produce large screen TV’s as well (50 inches and larger).

As the number of items that a factory can and does produce goes up, the price of each item produced goes down, this is simple Industrial Engineering, and this, my friend Ozzy is a known fact, and there is nothing you can say that will dispute this fact.

As for the clarity, black level and tendency for LCD screens to wash out in direct sun light, Sharp has developed an entirely new generation of LCD screens that use back lighted LCD’s that are superior to the present generation of LCD’s and suffer from none of the weakness of the present generation of LCD screens, and can be produced more cheaply then the present generation.

You can take solace in the fact that every thing you have stated is true right now, but all this will change in the future.
 
Once LED-based backlighting for LCDs is common, Plasmas will be history. At least that's what some experts say. Of course OLED/SED displays will probably replace LED-based LCDs a few years after that happens.

In a few years the tread here will probably be "OLED v. SED".
 
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