Holding back - is it really worth it?

billyS

Reign of Terror
#1
In a couple of recent threads the subject about holding back your ejaculation, and different methods on how to have come up.

Now I'm putting aside jerking off before you get there aside because that's not what I'm addressing.

What I'm talking about is when you are having sexual intercourse and you are trying to delay the orgasm by thinking of non sexual or things that would turn you off.

Like the nun you had in second grade, fat woman in bathing suits, the Yankees trade targets at the deadline (I used this one myself last week)

But what I want to ask you guys is, it worth it? Isn't it better to just enjoy the sex and just cum whenever?

Here is why I ask; So last week I'm holding back, and doing a good job, but all of the sudden the feeling just rushes over me and I cum, Albeit hard and loud and very intense.

But a few weeks before that I had a session where we both knew there was a time constraint so with the minimal amount of foreplay I slid it in Mish and stroked away with only my ejaculation in mind.
Only thinking about about my own pleasure for a change I actually noticed it took a little longer to cum anyway and there was that slow build up leading up to the orgasm instead of just the "all of the sudden it's here" thing.

Last point, audio and visual stimuli are key components to the experience for me.
Usually if I'm trying to hold back I tune these out, which takes away from the experience.
 
#3
Biggest reason I opt for multiple pop or 2 pop session. The 1st one can happen in a minute. The 2nd one I can make it last until the very end, or finish off faster If I let it happen.

It really depends. If I am not really into the woman, I just nut fast. If I like what I am seeing, I pace myself.

Control by slowing down, taking it out, or stopping with my cock in her and rubbing/spanking her ass/tits.

If I am having a really difficult time finishing (regarless of what situarion I am in) I sloppy bbj with ball suction is the trick that takes me over the edge.

Since I am very visual and sensation driven, thinking about other things does not really help me control/stop ejaculation
 
#4
In a couple of recent threads the subject about holding back your ejaculation, and different methods on how to have come up.

Now I'm putting aside jerking off before you get there aside because that's not what I'm addressing.

What I'm talking about is when you are having sexual intercourse and you are trying to delay the orgasm by thinking of non sexual or things that would turn you off.

Like the nun you had in second grade, fat woman in bathing suits, the Yankees trade targets at the deadline (I used this one myself last week)

But what I want to ask you guys is, it worth it? Isn't it better to just enjoy the sex and just cum whenever?

Here is why I ask; So last week I'm holding back, and doing a good job, but all of the sudden the feeling just rushes over me and I cum, Albeit hard and loud and very intense.

But a few weeks before that I had a session where we both knew there was a time constraint so with the minimal amount of foreplay I slid it in Mish and stroked away with only my ejaculation in mind.
Only thinking about about my own pleasure for a change I actually noticed it took a little longer to cum anyway and there was that slow build up leading up to the orgasm instead of just the "all of the sudden it's here" thing.

Last point, audio and visual stimuli are key components to the experience for me.
Usually if I'm trying to hold back I tune these out, which takes away from the experience.
I dont think of other things to not bust. I just typically last long. If it's a Manhattan gfe spot. I take the hour 90% of the time. So we take a shower together the pro and I and then we have fun and around the 45 min mark I'm busting. 30 min motel spots, I bust under 25 mins.

My SA chick I fuck her all night long and sometimes even just bust late at night or the next morning. It now takes a long time for me to recover and be ready to fuck again after I bust.

I fuck for long periods of time.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#5
I fuck for long periods of time.
In reality I find most girls, particularly hookers don't appreciate any thing over 10 minutes of uninterrupted cock.
At some point they get dry and it's uncomfortable for them.

But I guess everyone's experience is different.
I know some girls brag "I like when dey have that good long lasting dick"
I guess that's you.
 

billyS

Reign of Terror
#6
this would probably the main reason i rather see women who do not rush at all, when i feel im getting close to cumming i take it out and start sucking her tits and just take my cock out.
and if they're SA girl then i just daty again :).
definitely worth the money
I do that too, take it out and slap her clit with it.
Also if it's someone I trust I'll pull it out and DATY some more. Sometimes I'll keep going back and forth between DATY and fucking until I know she is close to busting.
 
#7
"Male Ejaculation Control" is for those "students of sex," who no longer find their own orgasm as interesting as it once was. We have already experienced that countless times and became deeply disappointed with its short duration of pleasure, followed by exhaustion. The "student/experimenter" seeks a grander and more satisfying experience of sex on an energy level.

So, we learn to "hold back" and to enter into and watch the female orgasms rise and fall and enter into her joyful experience and actually feel it and become almost one with it. (nature gave her a good one, too)

Think of it like performing cunnilingus, and all the fun and joy that is, "watching and feeling her sexual emotion." But, being engaged in sexual union is all the more wonderful of an experience because you are fully engaged with locked bodies, watching and experiencing a lovely female lover. In cunnilingus you usually do not ejaculate, and in sexual union, even though there is heat and friction on your penis, you can compensate for that and override that stimulation and remain calm and aware, with practice.

"Male Ejaculation Control," probably will fail if it is approached merely by trying to control thoughts or by applying pressure to the penis to try and stop the flow of semen. It will work "probably" only on a very limited basis, using thought and pressure alone. But, it is a starting point. And, holding off for an extra minute or two beyond your comfortable capacity is a nice accomplishment to begin with. Because, this means that nature is no longer dictating to you the rules of engagement.

"Male Ejaculation Control," is accomplished when the body/mind and emotions are in a very balanced and calm state, and you have control of your body, mind and emotions. Breathing is a big part of it. Breathing controls the mind and many bodily functions. The mind and emotions are controlled by your "will."

The key to "Male Ejaculation Control" is that you have found your own "will" to be superior to your "body/mind/emotions." It takes time to cultivate and you will encounter successes and failures. Masturbation is not a good activity when learning this subject.

(Certain herbs like "yohimbe bark" and "ginkgo extracts," and many others make your penis far too engorged with blood and sensitivity to have any comfortable control over the male orgasm in my experience. Also, I cannot speak on western erectile drugs like Viagra because I have never used them)

Of course there comes a time when the beautiful "yin" sexuality of the female in her height of sexual passion could ignite your urge to trigger and uncontrollably release semen, but you must keep yourself steady in your command center and watch and control youself during her onslaught, and remain calm. If you prevail and are able to get through and absorb her orgasm without releasing semen and at the same time enjoy her orgasm with all its subtle nuances, you emerge more intense and happy, like you experienced the "eye of the storm," were exhilerated by it, and lived to tell the story.

There is a level above mere "Male Ejaculation Control" that I am not experienced enough to talk about because I have no mastery of it, and that is internal steaming of the semen not released in sex. So, if there are any adept in that science here that have some mastery in that direction, I would love to hear about it.

But, going back to simple "Male Ejaculation Control," after you enjoyed much of the female, and if you are severly backed up after exhibiting your "control," then for the sake of your system and to not create enlargement in the prostate gland, you can choose by your "will," exactly the time and place of your releasing of the semen, again by your "will" and not by mere friction and and animal procreation instinct. (this release could be at the end of each session in the beginning, and later, after having had ten or more sessions without release)

If you watch animals engage, monkeys, horses, pigs, sheep, the male ejaculates fairly quickly. Meaning, he is controlled by nature. He does not care to prolong the act and learn about his partner's orgasm or even to find ways to increase his own pleasure. He is programmed to engage and release to proliferate his species by ejaculation of his seed. We, as humans have risen above the mere capacity of animals. We, as human beings, have the ability to use our "wills" to have control over natural bodily functions.

This science is discussed in depth in the works of Mantak Chia and many others dating back many thousands of years. Unfortunately, they can only act as a guide and experimentation must be accomplished by you. So, have fun trying.
 
#10
In a couple of recent threads the subject about holding back your ejaculation, and different methods on how to have come up.

Now I'm putting aside jerking off before you get there aside because that's not what I'm addressing.

What I'm talking about is when you are having sexual intercourse and you are trying to delay the orgasm by thinking of non sexual or things that would turn you off.

Like the nun you had in second grade, fat woman in bathing suits, the Yankees trade targets at the deadline (I used this one myself last week)

But what I want to ask you guys is, it worth it? Isn't it better to just enjoy the sex and just cum whenever?

Here is why I ask; So last week I'm holding back, and doing a good job, but all of the sudden the feeling just rushes over me and I cum, Albeit hard and loud and very intense.

But a few weeks before that I had a session where we both knew there was a time constraint so with the minimal amount of foreplay I slid it in Mish and stroked away with only my ejaculation in mind.
Only thinking about about my own pleasure for a change I actually noticed it took a little longer to cum anyway and there was that slow build up leading up to the orgasm instead of just the "all of the sudden it's here" thing.

Last point, audio and visual stimuli are key components to the experience for me.
Usually if I'm trying to hold back I tune these out, which takes away from the experience.
Yes its worth it. My girl is a squirter. I let her squirt and cum. She asked if I can hold so we can do a few more times lol. I always ask cause I don't need to leave such a horny woman unsatisfied. So it is worth it to hold out for a few reasons. Mostly so I can fuck unlimited times until I cum. So I give her as much pleasure as she needs.
And...she knows who's boss haha. JK.
 
#11
As I have gotten older, I have found that unless I pop an enhancement pill, I can only pop once in an hour, and if I've paid for an hour I'd like to keep enjoying her for most of that hour. So I limit the BJs, and combine thrusting with DATY, FIV (if she'll let me), and sucking on boobs to extend my time.

There was one session I had with Dani of GFE Asia a couple of years ago where I got into the DATY so much (she told me she came from it, which she doesn't do from vaginal sex) that I extended the session for an extra 45 minutes, just munching away at her to get her off a couple of times, and was able to revive enough to get a second pop in missionary.

Like the nun you had in second grade
Props for banging a nun while still in elementary ;-).
 
#14
I never try to hold back. By the time I walk in to any session with a provider , I’ve already spanked off at least once. Maybe 2-3 times.

And I always prenegotiate for 2 releases before almost all sessions . That way I know I can pound out my first release fast , and I still have plenty of time for my second release . I’ll spend that time talking and trying to get to know the provider a little bit. And before you know it….. I’m ready to pound away again.

If the provider is a disappointment, I’ll walk my session back a little bit to one release. She’s not exciting me that much , so I know I can last a while anyways.

Either way, I have all my bases covered…
 
#15
If I'm really in the right mind and place with someone I'm with, I do my best to hold off, not only for her pleasure but I find when I'm able to delay it, the build up makes it more intense. But you are correct, most of these working girls do not want a marathon. At the end of the day it's all business and that is you busting a nut.
 
#16
In reality I find most girls, particularly hookers don't appreciate any thing over 10 minutes of uninterrupted cock.
At some point they get dry and it's uncomfortable for them.

But I guess everyone's experience is different.
I know some girls brag "I like when dey have that good long lasting dick"
I guess that's you.
You're right that's why I go to gfe spots. I fuck those pros most times minimum 15 mins. My SB I fuck her intercourse wise probably all night and morning over 1 hr.

My gf is awesome in bed but she is tapping out by 10 mins.
 
#18
Personally, If I try to hold out, delay, or interrupt my nutting process it tends to lessen the explosiveness of the nut. I just go with the flow, I am not a marathon fucker, nor do I desire to be.

When with pros/amps I actually try to nut faster because I want to get it in and get out as fast as I can. I am not there for their benefit, I am there for mine.
 
#20
You're right that's why I go to gfe spots. I fuck those pros most times minimum 15 mins. My SB I fuck her intercourse wise probably all night and morning over 1 hr.

My gf is awesome in bed but she is tapping out by 10 mins.
Before she lost interest in sex I would regularly fuck my wife 20-30 minutes before coming in her. It was very strenuous and I was usually wiped out for the night. As I got older the problem was staying hard long enough to get to the O. It's why I got my first scrip for Viagra a few years ago, although my go-to pill nowadays is Cialis.

It often takes at least 10-15 minutes for a provider to get me to come, no matter how they try it (HJ, BJ, or FS). Sometimes I go soft while they're working it; it's somewhat embarrassing when it happens, which is why I usually prep with a Cialis tab nowadays.
 
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