Originally posted by fishfry
"Personally I doubt this would deter the vice squad ("What money? Oh, that envelope on the table? My goodness, how ever did that get there? I don't know a thing about it.") But apparently many people prefer to not have to deal directly with money during a session.
Actually, there are several reasons why the money is left in an envelope. Some ladies (and a lot of guys) don't like to discuss the money because it detracts from the "non-session" aspect of your time together. Dealing with the money issue only brings it to the forefront, reinforcing (right before the session) that this is a business deal. Now, that, of course, is the non-LE reason for the money in the envelope.
But there is also an LE version for it too. If LE happened to bust a girl while she was doing an outcall session, based on the premise that she KNOWS what in the envelope that is in somebody else's room (b/c it's not her room), a defense attorney would have a field day with that. That is why it is SOP for undercover officers to always make a show of handing the girl the money. That is what they are instructed to do. In most cases they are instructed to do this before any action takes place. This is also why many girls will NOT discuss money, will not take money from your hand, and will not take the money until after the session has been completed. There is, in the legal community, a presumption of innocence. The fact is that you can meet a girl for a blind date, sparks fly, and you just end up going at it. That does happen. And, because of this, LE has to try to show that, when they bust somebody, it's clearly NOT a case of this happening. Hand the girl the money before anything happens, and you're showing a cause and effect relationship. I know that it's a fine line, but it's a VERY important line. It's one of those "technicalities" that LE has to watch out for or else the case will not stick and they'll have wasted a lot of money for nothing.
"Sometimes, not always, but sometimes, I fetishize the money exchange itself. For example one time I was about to hand two one-hundred dollar bills to a woman and I mentioned that for me, the payment itself can be erotic. She had big breasts, and she came over and told me to put the money between her breasts. She squeezed them together and took the payment that way. I thought that was very cool how she immediately picked up on my request and turned it into reality. (Part of good service in my opinion).
Another time I was getting a covered bj and sensed that a few more dollars would lead to more skin contact and less latex. I took out my wallet and kept laying out twenty dollar bills on the bed one after another until I got the desired result.
Cool. I'm being totally serious. That is great for you that you are comfortable enough with the girl to do that. But not all girls are going to be that comfortable. At least, not during the first session. But if you're a regular (or just a semi-repeat customer), then the girl will know you're not LE. Then you can let her know that this is something you like to do sometimes. Her, get her into the act and you can do ALL sorts of things to exchange the money. What I'm saying is you shouldn't hold it against the lady if she isn't willing to do it on the first date.
What I always say is that this hobby is about fun and fantasy. But neither of goals will be reached until you are both comfortable with each other. These ladies risk a LOT when they do an outcall. They never know who's going to answer the door and who's in the next room watching through the TV. If placing the money in an envelope helps relax them and make them feel more comfortable, I personally don't see what the big deal is. Whatever it takes to make the lady feel comfortable and help her have as much fun as I'm hoping I'll have, I'm willing to do it.
As always, be safe and have fun.
Seriously, thank you for the kind words. Now I'm just gonna sit here and smile for awhile