Well, I have been ruminating about this for awhile and have come to this conclusion. First, I want to make it clear that I have nothing against straights, gays, bisexuals, pre-op ts's or post-op ts's. To each his own. I happen to only be into women. I think a ts should make this clear to people upfront that they are in fact a ts. I would not have been with this person had I known. I am not even sure why I do not want to be with a ts, regardless of how much of a woman they are, it is just me and my comfort level. Second, I am not going to let the ts experience bother me. There was "no five o'clock shadow". I am sure many people who are reading this thread have been with "her" and have no idea "she" is a ts. I am simply amazed at what modern medicine and surgery could accomplish. The only clue was a somewhat deeper than normal voice for a woman(not a deep voice by any means) and that the silicone job and plastic surgery around the lips was extensive. This kind of surgery, however, is undertaken by many women as we all know. I don't want to give away too much and risk her identity, let us just say that "she" has been discussed and nobody before ever brought this up. I found out by a dumb coincidence. Anyway, I have a date with my girlfriend tomorrow and have a thanksgiving eve date set up with a very sexy independent. I guess I will look at facial features and ask more questions in the future.