Big Skin Cream Love Hotel experience?

Wwanderer

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#1
DW and any of you guys with Japan/Asian love hotel experience, did you ever hear of or experience a love hotel (or love hotel room) theme/style/activity which could be called "big skin cream" or anything along those lines? I am going to find out on Monday night (I'm now in Tokyo) but would prefer to be prepared, rather than surprised.

-Ww
 
#2
DW and any of you guys with Japan/Asian love hotel experience, did you ever hear of or experience a love hotel (or love hotel room) theme/style/activity which could be called "big skin cream" or anything along those lines? I am going to find out on Monday night (I'm now in Tokyo) but would prefer to be prepared, rather than surprised.

-Ww
Big Skin Cream? That doesn't ring a bell. I heard about many, and experienced some, theme hotels. I have been to several that had huge ofuro/hot tub arrangements. I saw a TV show where some rooms had small putting greens (golf). Any additional clues or hints?
 

Wwanderer

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#3
Any additional clues or hints?
I asked the friend with whom I will share the experience for a hint, and she said, "We will so happy!" ( <- no typo in the quote) and giggled like mad. Also it isn't available in any old love hotel; it is only available in some special place(s). It is probably something new, at least it is new to my friend. That's all I know.

-Ww
 
#5
care to explain what asian love hotels are ?

thanks.
The vast majority of my Love Hotel experiences were in Japan.

Love Hotels are short stay hotels that, like most things in Japan, are high quality. Most of them bear no resemblance to the seedy low-budget no-tell motels found in the U.S. They are neat, clean, have nice bathrooms, offer toiletries. The sheets are always clean. As I mentioned/inferred in my previous post, some offer themes such as golf. Some offer karaoke; some offer Adult Videos (AV).
 

Wwanderer

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#6
care to explain what asian love hotels are ?
What DW said, but more details at

http://www.gadling.com/2008/06/04/big-in-japan-how-to-get-down-and-dirty-in-a-love-hotel

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_hotel

Here is a professionally made video piece that shows you the variety and what they look like inside

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=HyY5_T35Oik

and here are a couple of (very) amateur videos made by customers (I guess)

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=ullEkxNT3fY

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=_34QIvHKD_U

Google knows all.

-Ww
 
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Wwanderer

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#7
In case anyone is curious, here is what the "Big Skin Cream Love Hotel" turned out to be. The story may be a little disappointing compared to how weird/exotic/mysterious it sounded, but maybe it is of some interest and will give some impression of Japanese love hotel experiences.

Love hotel rooms often have very large "ofuro(s)", a big room for bathing with a big and deep tub for two (or more) and a very large shower area in which you soap up and wash off thoroughly before getting into the tub (the standard procedure for a bath in Japan). In a love hotel this more-or-less standard ofuro set-up will often be enhanced with various additions to set a romantic/erotic mood or for sex play. An inflatable rubber mat and a supply of oil for playing a soapland-style slip and slide game is common, as is a TV screen for watching porn or whatever, an audio system for mood music, adjustable romantic or stroboscopic lighting, jacuzzi jets in the bath and so on and so forth.

Anyway, this whole "Big Skin Cream" deal (my Japanese lady friend's name for it, btw...don't know what the hotel itself called it in Japanese) was a theme for a room in this particular love hotel. Namely it was extensively decorated with plastic replicas of erect cocks...just poking out of the wall at random, in the closet alcove to hang your clothes, handles on the faucets, an enormous one poking out of the headboard over the bed (by enormous, I mean about a meter long and maybe 8 inches in diameter) and so on. Maybe you get the idea...a phallic room theme. I had never seen one like it before, but the basic idea fits pretty well into the (enormous) range of love hotel room themes you can easily find. Nothing particularly remarkable so far.

The skin cream, or lotion, part was that in the ofuro shower area there was a whole row of these plastic erections set up to dispense various liquids by jerking them up and down with an HJ like motion. Depending on which one you used you could get liquid soap, shampoo, conditioner, toothpaste (!), lube, a couple of erotic oils (the kind that make your skin tingle/warm) and actual skin lotions. All these were labled in Japanese...so I depended on my friend to keep me from brushing my teeth with shampoo etc. Finally, there was a little ledge at the end of the row where a guy can sort of half lean and half sit to have his own cock join the line of plastic ones...for the "use" of his date. You can perhaps imagine the sort of silly and simple but charming little games and pretends to be played with these...such as the lady getting "ejaculated" shampoo into her hair.

My date for the evening, with her usual playful enthusiasm, found all of this hugely and endlessly hilarious and fascinating. I think she could have entertained herself all night. And, while I wasn't as blown away and felt somehow disappointed because I expected something more exotic/amazing (don't ask me what...no real idea), I had quite a good time too. Her playfulness is contagious. The best part was when she gave me a BJ as I sat on the little ledge, took a "pearl necklace" and then rubbed my cum onto her chest.

One more detail: my partner was riding me cowgirl style in the bed, and at one point she reached up and around the giant model of an erect cock poking out of the wall and used it to pull herself up and push herself down in addition to pumping up and down with her thighs. It was a pretty weird view from my perspective looking up at her and it. I later realized that if we had oiled up her body and turned on the strobes for illumination, the whole scene would have been like something out of an erotic acid trip.

Finally, I think she called it "skin cream" because she knows (don't think she learned it to me) that "creaming" can mean ejaculating...in fact she often calls it that.

-Ww
 
#8
there was a whole row of these plastic erections set up to dispense various liquids by jerking them up and down with an HJ like motion. Depending on which one you used you could get liquid soap, shampoo, conditioner, toothpaste (!), lube, a couple of erotic oils (the kind that make your skin tingle/warm) and actual skin lotions. All these were labled in Japanese...so I depended on my friend to keep me from brushing my teeth with shampoo etc.
In my case, Japanese writing would not have been the only reason for me to depend on my friend for the purposes of shampoo/toothpaste dispensing....
 

Wwanderer

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#9
In my case, Japanese writing would not have been the only reason for me to depend on my friend for the purposes of shampoo/toothpaste dispensing....
You mean, I guess, that you wouldn't have been comfortable "pumping" a plastic penis? That it would have seemed "too gay" or something to you? While I did find the decor a bit peculiar and not particularly erotic for my tastes, it is moderately hard to weird me out, and I had no trouble playing with the things to amuse/excite my date.

-Ww
 
#10
In case anyone is curious, here is what the "Big Skin Cream Love Hotel" turned out to be. (snip)
Overall, it sounds like it was fun. In many situations, if it's not too weird, it's often good to go along with your J-Girl's suggestions. One must be prepared to draw the line just in case . . . Even if it wasn't as wild as you expected, she had fun. Next time, you would probably have the green light to make a recommendation.
 

Wwanderer

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#11
Overall, it sounds like it was fun. In many situations, if it's not too weird, it's often good to go along with your J-Girl's suggestions. One must be prepared to draw the line just in case . . . Even if it wasn't as wild as you expected, she had fun. Next time, you would probably have the green light to make a recommendation.
Yes, definitely a nice experience...my only complaint being that I had somehow built it up in mind to be something more amazing than it turned out to be. But I count myself lucky...no serious complaints at all.

And, yes, the lady in question is a lot of fun and quite creative/adventuresome re sex. In a number of important ways she is a rather atypical Japanese woman (and would not be spending time with me if she were not...she is np4p, not sure if I mentioned that before).

-Ww
 
#12
Still Waters Run Deep

(snip) And, yes, the lady in question is a lot of fun and quite creative/adventuresome re sex. In a number of important ways she is a rather atypical Japanese woman (and would not be spending time with me if she were not...she is np4p, not sure if I mentioned that before).
IMHO, most J-Girls are sexual volcanoes waiting to be awakened.

In general, the Japanese live safe-but-restricted lives as they shuffle through their daily routines/commutes. Succinctly put, the Japanese follow the narrowly-defined roles dictated by society. That's yet another reason (one of dozens) why there are so many hostess bars and P4P venues in Japan -- to allow guys the opportunity to break loose & have fun. Chotto ippai alllows that same opportunity for guys and girls.

If given the opportunity, behind closed doors, the vast majority of J-Girls can be extremely uninhibited.

btw, I am long over-due in posting a reply to our "submissive" discussion in that other thread. I will write & post that this week.
 
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Wwanderer

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IMHO, most J-Girls are sexual volcanoes waiting to be awakened.

In general, the Japanese live safe-but-restricted lives as they shuffle through their daily routines/commutes. Succinctly put, the Japanese follow the narrowly-defined roles dictated by society. That's yet another reason (one of dozens) why there are so many hostess bars and P4P venues in Japan -- to allow guys the opportunity to break loose & have fun. Chotto ippai alllows that same opportunity for guys and girls.

If given the opportunity, behind closed doors, the vast majority of J-Girls can be extremely uninhibited.
I agree with all of the above based on my own experiences. However, the bit of your quote which I have underlined doesn't really apply to my lady-friend (FB, really) who took me to the "Big Skin Cream Love Hotel". In fact, her "problem" is sort of the opposite. She had a rather wild and adventuresome youth (very atypical for a J-girl), including the awakening of her indeed rather volcanic sexuality, and now has some "issues" returning to a more conventional Japanese life style. But, anyway, her particular circumstances are not very relevant to the generalizations we are discussing here.

-Ww
 
#14
F B

In Japanese, the most appropriate term is: セフレ (sefure), which is the shortened version of the term セックスフレンド (sekkusufurendo) - sex friend. As you know, and others should realize/take note, this radically different from 恋人 (こいびと) koibito - lover or sweetheart.

btw, Ww, I should have written: In general, most Japanese live safe-but-restricted lives . . .
 

Wwanderer

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#15
In Japanese, the most appropriate term is: セフレ (sefure), which is the shortened version of the term セックスフレンド (sekkusufurendo) - sex friend. As you know, and others should realize/take note, this radically different from 恋人 (こいびと) koibito - lover or sweetheart.
Thanks for the J equivalent of FB, a word I didn't know. (My knowledge of the language is very hit-and-miss, and I have been told that my J vocabulary is very weird...including quite a few obscure "technical" words that most Japanese wouldn't know but also missing tons of very ordinary and common words.)

Btw, would a lady potentially be offended to be called a sefure (as a native English speaking woman might not care to be called a "fuck buddy")...or is it a milder and more acceptable term in Japanese?

Anyway, I agree that it is VERY important to keep the distinction between having a koibito and a sefure/FB clear in your mind. It is likely to be crystal clear in the J-girl's.

btw, Ww, I should have written: In general, most Japanese live safe-but-restricted lives . . .
The "in general" implies that it doesn't apply to everyone, so no real need for the "most". If it sounded like I was correcting you or anything like that, it was unintentional. I was just commenting randomly that your mostly valid generalization doesn't quite fit my sefure. She is a real kick and one of the best bits of my abundant good luck; if this weren't a public site, I'd tell a few more tales about her.

-Ww
 
#16
Everything Is Cool

Thanks for the J equivalent of FB, a word I didn't know. (My knowledge of the language is very hit-and-miss, and I have been told that my J vocabulary is very weird...including quite a few obscure "technical" words that most Japanese wouldn't know but also missing tons of very ordinary and common words.)
The longer our dialogue, the more we find in common. My Japanese is okay. However, I used to use some technical terms and words that many Japanese wouldn't use. Keiko, my 180 cm tall Secret Girlfriend, used to make fun of me and my funny/strange Japanese (へんな日本語). She found it amusing.

Btw, would a lady potentially be offended to be called a sefure (as a native English speaking woman might not care to be called a "fuck buddy")...or is it a milder and more acceptable term in Japanese?

Anyway, I agree that it is VERY important to keep the distinction between having a koibito and a sefure/FB clear in your mind. It is likely to be crystal clear in the J-girl's.
It's a case-by-case situation. Off the top of my head, some acceptable alternative terms might include:

秘密ギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend)
シークレトギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend)
秘密恋人 (secret lover)

The "in general" implies that it doesn't apply to everyone, so no real need for the "most". If it sounded like I was correcting you or anything like that, it was unintentional.
No, everything is absolutely and positively cool. I simply need to remind myself to guard against the liberal use of glittering generalities.
 
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It's a case-by-case situation. Off the top of my head, some acceptable alternative terms might include:

秘密ギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend)
シークレトギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend)
秘密恋人 (secret lover)
Can you tell me what are the phonetic pronunciations of these words in japanese? Thanks.
 
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I am more than happy to help

Can you tell me what are the phonetic pronunciations of these words in japanese? Thanks.
秘密ギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend) --- himitsu garufurendo
シークレトギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend) --- shiikureto garufurendo
秘密恋人 (secret lover) --- himitsu koibito
 

Wwanderer

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秘密ギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend) --- himitsu garufurendo
シークレトギャルフレンド (secret girlfriend) --- shiikureto garufurendo
秘密恋人 (secret lover) --- himitsu koibito
DW has kindly translated the kanji and hiragana into romanji, not exactly a phonetic spelling, but if you read those words as though they were Spanish or Italian and with very little inflection or intonation, you get pretty close to the correct Japanese pronunciation. Japanese is a quite simple language in some ways and terribly complex in others; pronunciation is in the former category. It is one of the phonemically most impoverished major world languages...maybe even the most extreme in this regard. That is why it is so full of homonyms.

And, to be picky, shouldn't words like shiikureto (secret) and garufurendo (girlfriend) which are adopted from English be written in katakana instead of hiragana...not that I think it makes any sense, but most Japanese seem to make the distinction?

And, btw, posting in foreign languages violates one of the UG rules (or once did). Probably the above is too minor to matter, but we should not switch to posting in Japanese if we want to avoid the wrath of the APM.

-Ww
 
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(snip) And, to be picky, shouldn't words like shiikureto (secret) and garufurendo (girlfriend) which are adopted from English be written in katakana instead of hiragana...not that I think it makes any sense, but most Japanese seem to make the distinction?

And, btw, posting in foreign languages violates one of the UG rules (or once did). Probably the above is too minor to matter, but we should not switch to posting in Japanese if we want to avoid the wrath of the APM.

-Ww
1. It's okay to be picky. However, I did write the words shiikureto and garufurendo in katagana. After all, they are words of foreign origin.

2. In the past, posting in foreign languages violated UG rules -- as per the case-by-case interpretation by Slinkybender-san. In this case, given the intend behind the rules he implemented, I doubt that he would object to this situation.
 
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