azzure,
Theorizing ? I wasn't doing anything differently than BigBucks. Just trying to get as much clarification/information as possible, that's all.
"many males whose only risk factor was vaginal sex have contracted HIV"
That goes without saying. It's a fact. However, "many" is a very vague number, isn't it ? I never said nor implied there was no risk associated with BBFS. Of course there is. I'm merely pointing out that, percentage-wise, while there are other activites that are higher risk, I think everybody overstates the risk of BBFS. Perhaps to err on the side of caution, fine, but, oversstate it they do. Now don't get me wrong here. I don't go looking for it myself, but I'm just looking for relative incidence rates or, if you prefer, relative RISK factor in rates of transmission via BBFS and sharing drug needles and BB anal.
You take a risk everytime you wake up and walk out the front door. Life is a risk. If you want NO risk at all, stay with your significant other and get out of the hobby. Simple as that. If not, there's nothing wrong withing knowing the percentages now, is there ? (Right Ozzy ? (grin))
BB,
"Thus, everything you said about BBFS is wrong"
You will please note that I said " I originally believed that blood to blood contact was required to pass on HIV", thus inferring that I know that is not the case. I realize that many, if not all, bodily fluids can contain differents amounts of the HIV virus. But I confess I may have been a little obtuse.
I guess what I didn't say is that any bodily fluid containing HIV, and I'm assuming that all do, (some less in volume than others, but they all do) still needs an entry into the bloodstream. So, I believe, in effect, that you could have HIV, then have BBFS with a lady, and, if the HIV had no entry into the lady's bloodstream, she would NOT catch it. Is this NOT correct ? The mucosa stuff I brought up that I heard about recently would seem to suggest that even without an open sore, or an obvious entry into the lady's bloodstream she still might catch it via said mucosa.
So I guess my question is, while the CDC and any and all medical people would (and DO) say that ANY swapping of bodily fluids is HIGH RISK (and YOU, in fact, refer to BBFS are "VERY high risk"), the fact of the matter is that HIV transmission has relative risk levels in different activities. If BBFS is VERY high risk, how would you classify sharing needles and BB anal sex ? ULTRA-HIGH, Death-wish, what exactly ? And then, of course, what would you classify BBBJTC then ? Just HIGH risk ?
I mean after all, theoretically, you could have an open sore on the back of your thigh and sit on a toilet seat that someone else with HIV just accidentally (I hope) pissed on and boom, transmission.